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ruf
2005.01.24, 11:55 AM
1/22/05 - Great races guys. Somehow with even more people, the place seemed less cramped than the last race. I would chalk that up to better organization. Thanks for putting on a great event guys! My only complaint is that I beat Sandro in superstock, thought the points don't reflect it... Any time I can take credit for beating up on an old man, I like to take advantage of it! :D

Now if I can actually get 2 cars running so I don't have my charging schedule all boffed up, then I think I'll be ok! :rolleyes: And F1 sucks. Without tires that is... :p

kurtmeyer69
2005.01.24, 02:48 PM
too bad i wasnot there with my UNENO CLINIC maclaren and my police car.....k

ruf
2005.01.25, 09:16 PM
Why is this forum so dead lately? Is everyone busy with their Z's or the rest of their life?

Anyways, I'm seriously considering not running the F1 class. Running 3 classes is getting pretty hectic, especially with the possibility of bump-ups. I still need to get tires, and bearings and springs and a new diff shaft (mine is bent).

ruf
2005.01.27, 03:24 PM
BOOO! YOU GUYS SUCK!

I spent last night scraping and sanding my old MP4/16 so now I have a matte black "testing" body. I also did a little cutting around the sidepods and barge boards to lose the old Mclaren look.

Practice this weekend?

Biff
2005.01.27, 07:52 PM
Sup bro?

Howdy Danny and Kurt. :D

I followed Pats link here and saw Joe was here. Thought Id say hi! We used to race together and we allways figured out how to BBQ some sort of food that was full of nitrates. :eek:


Id really like to try the minis. I think its a great idea for just about any level of racer. Or noobie. Or old guy. :D

Id like to race another class. Id like to give Minis a shot if I can get some Saturdays off from work. Joe, can I take your car for a few laps when I can make it out? :cool:

ruf
2005.01.27, 07:54 PM
No prob. I should have all the bootyness sorted out of my prototype. Bosley's also got 2 cars that drive very differently, but very effective. I'm also building Cristian up a chassis. Should be fun! All the old onroad guys back on the track again. :cool:

Biff
2005.01.27, 08:09 PM
Christian? Tabush?


Probably most of the other guys I havent met yet. Some of the offroaders yes.

Id really like to run a few laps in a Mini though. I think Id like it.

ruf
2005.01.27, 08:47 PM
Yah Tabush. He probably won't be running for another couple of weeks or so. I think he'll make it to the final race of the series next month. We should have 2 MR02, 2 prototype, an F1 and an Overland rally car for you to play with... :cool:

Biff
2005.01.27, 09:02 PM
I wont be Cherry picking then? LOL

I think most offroaders belive the onroaders are slow. And visa versa.

Hummm. Gets one's mind to a thinking!

ruf
2005.01.27, 09:11 PM
There's still quite a bit of low hanging fruit right now. I'm currently among that group! I'm beginning to get my sea legs back after a 2 year hiatus. That and trying to setup/dev a new chassis kinda makes me ubersuck right now... :rolleyes:

madf1man
2005.01.27, 09:54 PM
found ya,forgot about this one.I,ve got so many threads out I,m losin it.This high speed conections gonna be the death of me

madf1man
2005.01.27, 10:05 PM
by the way I,m workin on a renault scheme now after the sauber came out so good. gettin the 24th kits of ebay for 10 or 15 bucks makes it a brezze.glad you guys are gettin into it.

ruf
2005.01.27, 10:39 PM
I was wondering where you got the decals from. I just spent tonight cutting arcs into my MP4/16 to modernize it. Cut some Renault "gills" into it too. With the sanded matte black, it looks very "sharky". Still need to come up with a scheme for it before my Kimi MP4/19 gets here. He's my new fave. Any current F1 driver that gets kicked out of a strip club is tops on my list! :cool:

Q ball
2005.01.28, 08:39 AM
What class are they running the prototype chassis and modified bodies in? is it just in the open class or have they started a new class for them?

Last I had heard, in the stock and super stock it was production chassis and bodies only. Did this change?

ruf
2005.01.28, 09:12 AM
No I made a prototype chassis because I hated the way the old MR01 drove. I'm working on ironing out the wrinkles. It was a lot better last week than the week before and I made some more improvements to it. Since driving a well set-up MR02, my target is a LOT higher now... :(

Q ball
2005.01.28, 11:00 AM
Joe,

what class were you driving the prototype chassis in? My initial point is that I had been told you must run the stock chassis and bodies in all classes. I'm wondering if that has changed. and if it has, is it only in the open class?

ruf
2005.01.28, 01:09 PM
I run it in open and superstock. At this point, the plastic chassis MR02 is still a better car so no one's complaining... :D

Q ball
2005.01.28, 01:29 PM
Thanks for the clarification! I think its good to have classes for the people to run the real wild stuff, and also have classes for those that want to keep it simple. I'm probably going to be swinging by to get a car tomorrow. I like how much the group is growing and is stable.

Q ball
2005.01.28, 01:31 PM
whats the word on using lexan bodies (1/24 slot car bodies)? Is that allowed? I'd love to run a GTP type car.

ruf
2005.01.28, 02:47 PM
For open I guess it's ok. The rules are all kind of up in the air right now. I really like the Autoscales and how they look though. Just about every lexan body I've seen for these things is butt ugly

Q ball
2005.01.28, 02:50 PM
Well clearly Joe, you and I are the only two sitting by a computer all day!

It'll be interesting to see how the rules come down. I'm gonna get an Mr-02 tomorrow, and plan to be there next Sat. for the race.

ruf
2005.01.28, 03:11 PM
Where are you getting it from? There are a few specified hopups that are "must haves".

madf1man
2005.01.28, 03:15 PM
Q ball I,ll assume your in Houston and let you know we,ll have a track open this Sat aft if you want to put some time in without a race goin on.Wilcrest and 10 area.7138178035 Trey

Q ball
2005.01.28, 03:23 PM
I was going to get it from hobby center in clear lake, or M&M. Not sure I can afford the "must haves" this weekend, but what are they?

Trey, What times do you think it would be? I'll have my 3 year old with me, would that be a problem? I'll try to call you at that number as I'm heading over tomorrow.

Q-ball

madf1man
2005.01.28, 03:46 PM
Kids are fine! Kits tires are junk!!!!!!!!!!!!! need to a least get some 20 rear and 30 front or similar combo.We,ll have some loaner tires if you can,t get em.Next would be some rechargable nimh.15 min recharge systems at walmart and such go for about 20 or 25.With this you,ll be set for awhile. who be you?

Q ball
2005.01.28, 03:58 PM
Trey, I know you ( a little) and you probably would recognize my face. I've stopped by the mini track once before. Also, I used to race touring cars with you and Joe over at Reflex. I live in Beaumont, and plan on driving over for the races.

ruf
2005.01.28, 04:04 PM
Tires are a must. I'm a big fan of ball diff, but some ppl actually like the gear diff... :confused: Carbon H-plate and damper disk system and you're pretty much done. The only thing left is front camber and toe bars. The beauty of Mini-Z is how simple it is to have a competitive car. The blingy rear pods are cool too. They let you mesh the gears nicer so you don't sound like an old Tamiya. Not necessary though.

For some reason the Rayovac IC3's seem to be the punchiest cell around. I still run whatever old NiMH I still have laying around.

Q ball
2005.01.28, 04:08 PM
Rayovac IC3's.... are those the ones at Walmart?

ruf
2005.01.28, 04:54 PM
I think so. I need to get some myself.

Biff
2005.01.28, 05:58 PM
The more Im interested in running the minis. Sounds like a heckuva lot of fun.

Joe, you know me. You know what I like and my driving style. What kit should I buy? Can you give me a link, some pictures, tech stuff, something for me to drool over? lol

You know! :D

madf1man
2005.01.29, 08:30 AM
I remember a guy coming in from Beaumont at Reflex almost!!!!!!I,m sure oncei see ya it,ll all come back.As far as a kit MR02 and which ever body you like.We,ve got a cop car,theres a taxi,ferrari and so on.Get whatever cause you,ll get another body separate in the future.They go for about 25.00 or so.But MRO2222!!!

Biff
2005.01.30, 07:25 PM
MRO2

Thanks!

Biff
2005.01.31, 11:18 AM
You racing pretty regularly? Im jumping in on racing Minis. :rolleyes:

ruf
2005.01.31, 11:44 AM
I'll be there this weekend. :)

Biff
2005.01.31, 12:00 PM
Ive got a question or two! :p

We need to plan a "Hot Dawg Race" in a couple of months. ;)

ruf
2005.01.31, 12:35 PM
Oh damn. Hot Dog Race. I totally forgot about that. Great thinking!

ruknd@aol.com
2005.01.31, 04:20 PM
He's my new fave. Any current F1 driver that gets kicked out of a strip club is tops on my list! :cool:
I get kicked out of a strip club and I'm drunk and disorderly...an F1 driver gets kicked out and he's a legend...

Biff
2005.01.31, 05:22 PM
I thought you'd remember the hot dog race. :D

That turned out pretty good that time we did one at the old track.

Im gonna meet up with Chris Thayer tomarrow and he is going to let me borrow his car. Its the Vette, MRO1, but its got some bling bling. He says it might need some tweeking, so Ill be invading your pit space. :rolleyes:

I also heard about your prototype. lol. I want one! :p

ruf
2005.01.31, 07:29 PM
Not yet you don't. Still ironing out the wrinkles. I need to make it more biff-proof... :D

Q ball
2005.02.01, 08:43 AM
Joe or Trey (or anyone with an educated answer),

That charger I had gotten is obviously a slow charger. Taking more than 5 hours to charge the batteries. Now, the 15 minute chargers I assume charge at a higher amperage. With these mini Zs, is there a power advantage to charging the batteries at a higher amperage like there was in the touring cars?

ruf
2005.02.01, 09:07 AM
Not that I have noticed. So long as you have the IC3 cells, you will be ok. You may have a slight advantage in stock class with cells charged a little higher but I doubt it's worth it. The 15 minute charge is more for convenience than anything. I calculated it out and the packs are being charged at about 2-2.5A. Pretty aggressive C-rate, but nothing out of the ordinary in the R/C world. It would be like charging at 8-9A for a sub-C cell, which is high but not unheard of. I would invest in a 15-minute charger just to make the racedays less hectic.

ruknd@aol.com
2005.02.01, 09:29 AM
I'm slowly switching to a CE Turbo35 and either an LRP or Reedy PRO for my 1:10, leaving me with a Dynamite left over...is there any way I can use this for AA and AAAs? I was thinking about making a charging bed and charging 4 cells at 2A. Would this work?

madf1man
2005.02.01, 09:37 AM
I have heard of people doing this with some success.As high as 3 amps has been seen but life of the battery is probably shortened.Most are using the rayovac with better results so far with the 15min charger.IC3,s

ruf
2005.02.01, 09:40 AM
That's what I do. Keep a close eye on the temperature though. With cells like these, the peak detection can be iffy (especially with the internal circuitry on the IC3s). If you have a charger with a thermocouple input, then you are set.

Trey - have you noticed any more punch with the IC3s on 15 minute vs. longer charge? Frankly I can't tell the difference with these little buggers.

Biff
2005.02.01, 09:52 AM
Ive got a T-30 and a cheapo Dynamite charger I bought for the receiver pack on my gas truck. I guess with these, I dont have to buy a charger. Just use a 4 cell holder thing and let er rip?

And what would the best settings be as far as cutoff, charging amps etc?

ruf
2005.02.01, 10:19 AM
Conservatively, 1.5A. Late for a heat? 2-2.5A. Dunno about cutoff on these cells. I sold my good charger. Just using my old CE Power Pro. :cool:

madf1man
2005.02.01, 12:23 PM
I THINK that the charger that comes with the IC3 does just fine.I have ran it awhile now and always seem to be as fast or faster than the others.Just my driving lacks.Last week they seemed a little slow but it was other problems I think.It don,t take much to slow one of these cars down.Dirty bearings,wrong gearing.I think the attraction to these cars is no worry about all that stuff( to much at least)

ruf
2005.02.01, 12:36 PM
That's the beauty of running mod in Mini-Z. Just stick a hotter motor in there. You don't have to worry about runtime. These things are way overmotored as it is, so the battery/motor wars of 1/10 don't come into play.

Biff
2005.02.01, 01:09 PM
:D I gotta tinker.

ruf
2005.02.01, 01:19 PM
Raise your hand and the teacher will give you a bathroom pass. :D

Biff
2005.02.01, 02:15 PM
Raise your hand and the teacher will give you a bathroom pass. :D


ROTFLMAO!

Good one bro! :D

Biff
2005.02.01, 05:06 PM
Im looking over Chris Thayers MRO1. Very cool car. Im impressed. The Minis arnt as goofy looking as I thought. Charging a pack now! :D

ruf
2005.02.01, 05:11 PM
Wait til you check out an MR02. It's light years ahead of an MR01.

Biff
2005.02.01, 05:23 PM
Its got the ball diff, aluminum rear pod, Carbon H plate, all the clear plastic and the blue screw kit. Since I havent driven the either the MRO1 or 2 yet, it doesnt matter. Just looking this car over is motivating me to get one even more. He brought a stocker also, but thats not making me "Tinkle" like this car is.

Eh eh eh eh!

Charge batteries, charge!

Biff
2005.02.01, 05:49 PM
I like! Im hooked. :D

ruf
2005.02.01, 09:24 PM
Glad you like it!

Biff
2005.02.02, 11:45 AM
The car has about 2* of tow out. Think Ill change it to 0*

Or negative 1??

ruknd@aol.com
2005.02.02, 03:00 PM
Its got the ball diff, aluminum rear pod, Carbon H plate, all the clear plastic and the blue screw kit. Since I havent driven the either the MRO1 or 2 yet, it doesnt matter. Just looking this car over is motivating me to get one even more. He brought a stocker also, but thats not making me "Tinkle" like this car is.

Eh eh eh eh!

Charge batteries, charge!
oh please dont tinkle, that would be bad for the electronics...as for toe in and out...it deponds on the track and your driving style.

Biff
2005.02.02, 03:20 PM
:)

I changed the toe bar to the -1*. Due to the slop in the front end itll still get around 2* toe out on the bench. So I assume the car will be twitchy on the straights and entering turns. Im thinking Ill just have to lift on the throttle a little sooner than I would like going into the sweeper etc.

I think. Ive never ran a mini before. LOL

Im about to get my arse whupped first time out. :)

madf1man
2005.02.03, 06:48 AM
:)

I changed the toe bar to the -1*. Due to the slop in the front end itll still get around 2* toe out on the bench. So I assume the car will be twitchy on the straights and entering turns. Im thinking Ill just have to lift on the throttle a little sooner than I would like going into the sweeper etc.

I think. Ive never ran a mini before. LOL

Im about to get my arse whupped first time out. :)

Alot of the advise I,ve been given was what I know on the MR02.It may not be correct on 01.You do want o toe or toe in for sure.These cars are allready twitchy without the help of toe out

Biff
2005.02.03, 07:40 PM
Im hip! I dont like toe out. Too twitchy for me.

Biff
2005.02.18, 03:32 PM
I got a car now. :)