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Roketmini
2005.11.04, 03:58 PM
With all the talk of the new Evo xmods, i think it would be nice if Xmods had their nice little corner to themselves. And please don't go telling me "they're xmods, they dont deserve their own spot". If Iwaver and Mini-X cars have their own private spots, why not Xmods?

bda52
2005.11.04, 04:20 PM
With all the talk of the new Evo xmods, i think it would be nice if Xmods had their nice little corner to themselves. And please don't go telling me "they're xmods, they dont deserve their own spot". If Iwaver and Mini-X cars have their own private spots, why not Xmods?

I do not see a place for Mini-X on the forum. Iwaver got a spot because it was a clone of the Mini-Z. Xmods have a forum on this sites sister website www.tinyrc.com.

But from what I have seen from RS's xmod forum, there tends to be alot of younger posters. They tend to act alot like the few that come on to this forum, make one or 2 post then vanish. 'My Xmod can kick your Mini-z's butt' kind of posts. Just tends to tear apart the forums and cause regular posters to go elsewhere.

Roketmini, that is NOT directed at you, you have been a nice asset to this forum.

Or they just have no clue about what they are talking about.

Quick example: I was reading earlier today on RS's site about what is the best way to drift your xmod. There were 2 or 3 that posted that it is best to drift on a wetted down wood floor. Another poster in that thread said to spread sugar on the floor and drift on that. Thankfully there was sane person that posted and said they were idiots. Water would destroy the ESC and sugar would get into the gears and motor and cause damage.


With all that said, I would say I would not object to seeing an Xmod section added. I just think the moderators might be put into working overtime until the new members calmed down and saw how this board is run compared to other mini r/c forums.

HammerZ
2005.11.04, 04:23 PM
That may be a good idea, I base it on the Tiny RC site that most posts are in the Xmods section and also some in the Zip Zaps section. I remember the other sections was quite busy a few years ago, now it is usually one or two posts every few days to a month for the Bit CharG section.

Roketmini
2005.11.04, 04:27 PM
I do not see a place for Mini-X on the forum.


Thank you for correcting me, I THOUGHT there was a place for them.

briankstan
2005.11.04, 04:38 PM
I beleive alot of existing members have Xmods, either new or old, I don't think it would be such a bad idea to have a section to post comments or updates. IMO

Brian

Boss302
2005.11.04, 05:30 PM
I say no.

Mostly I have to agree with Bda52, Look at ***********, Full of n00bs, I come to mini-zracer because its mostly Mature people posting. Xmods attract noobs and Its called "mini-z" Racer.com for a reason , no? Beleave me Im an Xmod supporter( Ill be getting a Real mini-z in a month or so once My paper route becomes availible , trust me this time). I would NOT bash Xmods, And even after I get my Z I won't , unlike a few people Im gratefull I have what I have. I really think we should leave it to tinyrc.

Roketmini
2005.11.04, 07:32 PM
I say no.

Mostly I have to agree with Bda52, Look at ***********, Full of n00bs, I come to mini-zracer because its mostly Mature people posting. Xmods attract noobs and Its called "mini-z" Racer.com for a reason , no? Beleave me Im an Xmod supporter( Ill be getting a Real mini-z in a month or so once My paper route becomes availible , trust me this time). I would NOT bash Xmods, And even after I get my Z I won't , unlike a few people Im gratefull I have what I have. I really think we should leave it to tinyrc.


True, Xmod's do attract noobs, but, after all, noobs are simply people who lack experience and (not to be rude) problem solving skills. And if there is an Iwaver forum here, why is the site not called "Iwaverracer.com"? I don't want to get into an argument or anything, but there are serious, noob-free xmod forums out there, just look at the atomicmods.com forum and you'll see what I mean.

(P.S. I'm beginning to look into Overlands so I can have something to drive against my F-150, any suggestions?)

arch2b
2005.11.04, 08:20 PM
tinyrc.com already has a section specifically for xmods and it's our sister site so it would not be prudent to peel members away from an established forum section. i would suggest taking the time to register on tinyrc and help bring some more educated and experienced commentary. i've posted xmods related threads here simply because i was too lazy to start them on tinyrc :rolleyes: also, my review of the evo's here was ment to be done in conjunction with mini-z's. i have a feeling it would have gotten less objective replies in xmods specific sections. i've experienced this already when posting nearly duplicate info on xmods forums regarding the evo's

bda52
2005.11.04, 11:13 PM
And if there is an Iwaver forum here, why is the site not called "Iwaverracer.com"?

With the Gen 1 IW02 it is identical to the MR-02. With the exception of the color of chassis, ESC and quality of build, these are exactly the same cars. All parts are interchangable between the two models. The same goes for the IW01 and MR-01. I did not get a Gen 1 IW04 but can assume that the same goes for that and the MZM.

I don't want to get into an argument or anything, but there are serious, noob-free xmod forums out there, just look at the atomicmods.com forum and you'll see what I mean.

Though I have checked out there site for the items they sell and check out the upgrades there, I have never looked through there forum so I will surely take your word for it.

(P.S. I'm beginning to look into Overlands so I can have something to drive against my F-150, any suggestions?)

I would look for the best price available. If you get lucky at ebay you might be able to pick one up for under $70. If getting a used one, just make sure the seller is including the extra parts with it. There should be two extra front shock supports and two extra rear shock supports and a locking plate for the diff. The shock supports are for if you wish to extend or shorten the chassis depending on what body you run. Pajero bodies take the shortest settings and tend to roll over easily when taking a sharp turn too fast. The Ford F-150 takes the longest settings and so far for me is much more stable taking corners. (I have only run my OL's on RCP or on the floor indoors)

byebye
2005.11.05, 03:48 AM
The other reason for iwaver threads and related material is because the this shop also carried the Iwaver RTR's. Not to mention the fact that they are identical to the Mini-z. There are x-mods related threads through out the site and have not been turned away. Those members are always welcome here if they are interested in mini-z or iwaver products.

-byebye

Randel Stevens
2005.11.06, 12:21 AM
I do not see a place for Mini-X on the forum. Iwaver got a spot because it was a clone of the Mini-Z. Xmods have a forum on this sites sister website www.tinyrc.com.

But from what I have seen from RS's xmod forum, there tends to be alot of younger posters. They tend to act alot like the few that come on to this forum, make one or 2 post then vanish. 'My Xmod can kick your Mini-z's butt' kind of posts. Just tends to tear apart the forums and cause regular posters to go elsewhere.

Roketmini, that is NOT directed at you, you have been a nice asset to this forum.

Or they just have no clue about what they are talking about.

Quick example: I was reading earlier today on RS's site about what is the best way to drift your xmod. There were 2 or 3 that posted that it is best to drift on a wetted down wood floor. Another poster in that thread said to spread sugar on the floor and drift on that. Thankfully there was sane person that posted and said they were idiots. Water would destroy the ESC and sugar would get into the gears and motor and cause damage.


With all that said, I would say I would not object to seeing an Xmod section added. I just think the moderators might be put into working overtime until the new members calmed down and saw how this board is run compared to other mini r/c forums.

I am neither xmods or miniz, and i must say your post is well spoken and your point are valid. But looking at the data only the new allwheel drive mini-z is at least 75% or more a copy of the new RS's Xmods EVO. I know this post will be bashed endlessly but at the end of the day the data is clear. If you buy and run the new MINI-Z you will be in the same class as the xmods. The only diferance will be that mini-z ppl are much more educated.

call me crazy but thats the way i see it.

bda52
2005.11.06, 12:47 AM
I am neither xmods or miniz, and i must say your post is well spoken and your point are valid. But looking at the data only the new allwheel drive mini-z is at least 75% or more a copy of the new RS's Xmods EVO. I know this post will be bashed endlessly but at the end of the day the data is clear. If you buy and run the new MINI-Z you will be in the same class as the xmods. The only diferance will be that mini-z ppl are much more educated.

call me crazy but thats the way i see it.

This is not bashing in anyway. No one in this thread has mentioned anything about the EVO v AWD Z until now. I do not think that is what Roketmini was intending this thread to be. A quick 2 cents on it though, there is really not much you can do in this scale different than mid-mounted motor and shaft drive. Belts would just be too hard and tiny to try to adjust or replace in this scale. I am not saying it could not be done, just seem impractical. As always, I could and probably am wrong.

I would not say Z racers are more educated that Xmod racers. I would say more mature. That all has to do with the cost of the cars. To me it seems like the average age of Z racers are 24-38 where as the average Xmod racer is in there teens. If I were not into R/C cars and my child wanted 1/28 scale car, I would lean toward the Xmod. Almost half of the price and available every 32 feet. (Seems like there are RS everywhere!) If they are going to just go out and beat the heck out of the car would you rather be out $60 or $120? I'd opt for $60. If they were going to be racing in a controlled environment, local track or under parental supervision, then I would consider going to the Z at $120.

Again, I would not object to and Xmod section, I do own 3 Xmods, in this forum even though there is one on the sister site, www.tinyrc.com. From the little bit I have gone through tinyrc there seems to be a bit more traffic through this forum and now with the shop combined into one spot, it might not be a bad idea to merge the forums.

EMU
2005.11.06, 12:49 AM
I am neither xmods or miniz, and i must say your post is well spoken and your point are valid. But looking at the data only the new allwheel drive mini-z is at least 75% or more a copy of the new RS's Xmods EVO. I know this post will be bashed endlessly but at the end of the day the data is clear. If you buy and run the new MINI-Z you will be in the same class as the xmods. The only diferance will be that mini-z ppl are much more educated.

call me crazy but thats the way i see it.
There are quite a few similarities between the new AWD Mini-Z and the Xmod Evo. Mainly in the drivetrain(although the Kyosho drivetrain should be smoother). But that is where the similarities end. The suspension is different (more like the MR02 front suspension all around). The ESC is not comparable at all. I have heard bad reports of the Evo plastic being fairly brittle, and breaking easily. The Kyosho plastic should be of a higher grade than the Xmod.

As for a copy of the Xmod, how many different ways can you think of putting power to the wheels in an AWD setup at this scale. I wonder if some of the old GPM Xmod parts will be compatable.

I do not feel that there should be an Xmod section here, unless it is an Xmod/Kyosho hybrid section (which wouldnt last, due to the Mini-Z AWD release). I have been working on an Xmod/Mini-Z hybrid (want to see what a GREAT Xmod G1 will do against the Mini-Z AWD)... Which is why I feel it is fine to post it on this site. If it was just Xmod, I would either post at TinyRC or a different Xmod related site.

If the forums would merge, there would be much more traffic... but not neccessarily the traffic that would be wanted. There would probably be more Xmod vs Mini-Z flaming, more random spamming by tweens... However, I feel that TinyRC has less of that compared to other Xmod related forums... The moderators here and at TinyRC do a great job. Moderating can be quite difficult ;)

byebye
2005.11.06, 04:02 AM
I am neither xmods or miniz, and i must say your post is well spoken and your point are valid. But looking at the data only the new allwheel drive mini-z is at least 75% or more a copy of the new RS's Xmods EVO. I know this post will be bashed endlessly but at the end of the day the data is clear. If you buy and run the new MINI-Z you will be in the same class as the xmods. The only diferance will be that mini-z ppl are much more educated.

call me crazy but thats the way i see it.

Reply to quote #3-Randel your words get alot of attention :p

Sure there are similarities but you have to take a look at every scale 4wd car. I believe this one is more similar to the x-ray than the x-mod and if you look at the battery layout and motor placement of the evo x-mod, whos copying who? If Kyosho pulled ideas off of them then good on them. In a wider aspect look at the auto industry. How many awd cars are out there now? How many are all developing paddle shift? Traction control is almost standard. Should there be a debate of who's copying who? It's not worth it and maybe you haven't been around this scale long enough to see the similarities of all the 1/28 scale manufacturers.

-Byebye

Roketmini
2005.11.06, 12:23 PM
As for a copy of the Xmod, how many different ways can you think of putting power to the wheels in an AWD setup at this scale.

To name a few configurations...

1-Gen 1 Xmod style
2-Xmod Evo style
3-Micro RS4 Style
4-Motor parallel to shaft (Think TC3)
5-Dual motors, 1 on each end (Think Rock Crawlers)

Anyway...I took a look at tinyrc and was a little disapointed. The forums there seemed less organized than the ones here, and the red background was a little hard on the eyes. I would be happy if I could use my account from here on tinyrc.

HammerZ
2005.11.06, 01:44 PM
Anyway...I took a look at tinyrc and was a little disapointed. The forums there seemed less organized than the ones here, and the red background was a little hard on the eyes. I would be happy if I could use my account from here on tinyrc.

Just setup an account there the same way as you did here. Most of my stuff on the different Tiny RC forums are more or less the same, just my avatars are slightly different as each one is set up to different requirements. I do have the same screen name so you know it's me.

Roketmini
2005.11.06, 05:59 PM
Just setup an account there the same way as you did here. Most of my stuff on the different Tiny RC forums are more or less the same, just my avatars are slightly different as each one is set up to different requirements. I do have the same screen name so you know it's me.


I see your posts there...but my main hindrance is that I use two different computers, and the one I normally surf the net on is the one without email...it slows the sign up prosess a bit, but oh well.

Randel Stevens
2005.11.07, 05:23 AM
Reply to quote #3-Randel your words get alot of attention :p

Sure there are similarities but you have to take a look at every scale 4wd car. I believe this one is more similar to the x-ray than the x-mod and if you look at the battery layout and motor placement of the evo x-mod, whos copying who? If Kyosho pulled ideas off of them then good on them. In a wider aspect look at the auto industry. How many awd cars are out there now? How many are all developing paddle shift? Traction control is almost standard. Should there be a debate of who's copying who? It's not worth it and maybe you haven't been around this scale long enough to see the similarities of all the 1/28 scale manufacturers.

-Byebye
i see the mini-z ppl point and i really dont care to speak on xmods behalf, and i belive the point i attemted to make has been made. Just looking at the data the xmods and kyosho new 1/28 RC are in the same class. the fact that one cost 70 dollars and kyoshos will cost 150 and up does not change the fact that for the most part the cars are the same and can compete head to head.

Its just my opion based on data only

randel

byebye
2005.11.07, 12:03 PM
i see the mini-z ppl point and i really dont care to speak on xmods behalf, and i belive the point i attemted to make has been made. Just looking at the data the xmods and kyosho new 1/28 RC are in the same class. the fact that one cost 70 dollars and kyoshos will cost 150 and up does not change the fact that for the most part the cars are the same and can compete head to head.

Its just my opion based on data only

randel

No one owns the MA-010 and I don't think there is any data out there on the ma-010 to compare to what has been done with the evo x-mod. I think we won't know until it's out. Personally I would buy the ma-010 simply because it works with the bodies I have now. I don't have to put it together either. It's done already. The great thing about the chassis set is it comes with the different wheel offsets and other parts to make it that much more compatible. I've already set aside the $400 for 3 ma-010's and am not ready to send out more money just to let the evo sit on the shelf. I have two x-mods with mini-z pcb's doing that already.

-Byebye

HammerZ
2005.11.07, 04:08 PM
I am not sure with the Evos, but the one thing I hate about my gen 1 Xmods was too many wires out on the open. Those things just beg for being ripped loose, pinched, burned, or twisted off ever time I go to do something with it. Most Mini Z's have everything tucked in nice and tidy, that alone makes them way easier to work on. I hope the MA-010 is the same way. Also to me the Kyosho electrics are worth the extra price you pay, it's like the difference between a $20 Sparkomatic at a discount store next to a $200 Pioneer. The Sparkomatic may play loud, but it sounds like junk.

bda52
2005.11.07, 06:29 PM
i see the mini-z ppl point and i really dont care to speak on xmods behalf, and i belive the point i attemted to make has been made. Just looking at the data the xmods and kyosho new 1/28 RC are in the same class. the fact that one cost 70 dollars and kyoshos will cost 150 and up does not change the fact that for the most part the cars are the same and can compete head to head.

Its just my opion based on data only

randel

On the data you have, are you comparing a stock MR-02 to (1) a stock EVO (w/o AWD). (2) stock EVO with AWD, or (3) your hopped up EVO with soon to be released PCB? Huge difference between the three EVOs. Also there is no way to compare the EVO's data to the MA-010 as it has yet to be released unless your "inside people" have info. (I only say "inside people" because in other posts you mention about a billion dollar company is behind your project)

Though the stock EVO is a really good car, pretty quick stock with killer turning radius compared to the Gen 1. Personally I still feel the MR-02 is a better handling car for racing and that is stock with only one hop-up, tires. Kyosho come with way too hard of a tire. The EVO still feels heavier stock W/O AWD than the MR-02. I have not weighed them so I do not know for sure, that is just from holding them in my hands.

Could you please list the data your opinion is based on? I know we all would love to see it.

gyrate
2005.11.07, 06:49 PM
The xmods suffer from jittery controls. power and steering delivery simply aren't smooth enough and that hasn't been improved with evos as the tx and rx are the same.

right there you have a problem.

bda52
2005.11.07, 07:42 PM
Randel, over on the board you are posting the videos on you said in the thread: http://www.one18th.com/GetGallery7955.htm

...turn on your tv this week and watch OLD and you can see for yourself. we have 6 interviews and placed 2 and 5 in nationals. cheak it out its on a show call INSIDE RC but i bet you guys are on that show all the time cuz your so smart!!!! also pick up a copy of this months ACTION RC i have been told thay got over 12 pic's and interviews this month...

Why didn't you mention that here?

Which nationals did your crew compete in? I don't follow the national R/C circut so pardon me if it seems like a stupid question.

What day will your crew be airing on Inside R/C? Also, is Krista Gibson as hot in person as she seems to be on the show? I enjoyed when she tried to race the unlimited hydroplanes. And I saw one where she was learing to fly a helicopter from a guy that has a business that takes areial photos with his rc copter.

Action RC, is that Radio Control Car Action? If so will that be in the December 05 issue?

Thanks!

williams F1#3
2005.11.07, 09:02 PM
Becasue second place is the first to lose! :)

I'm just fooling with you ;)

TNB
2005.11.07, 09:04 PM
i see the mini-z ppl point and i really dont care to speak on xmods behalf, and i belive the point i attemted to make has been made. Just looking at the data the xmods and kyosho new 1/28 RC are in the same class. the fact that one cost 70 dollars and kyoshos will cost 150 and up does not change the fact that for the most part the cars are the same and can compete head to head.

Its just my opion based on data only

randel
Exactly what point is that? Myself, I own numerous Xmods including the Evo Firebird. I also ran someone else's Evo on the RCP Track at the PNWC. And though the Evo is a large improvement over the earlier Xmod--anyone who owns an Xmod KNOWS what kind of a transmitter it uses and is restricted to whether it is the older model or the new Evo. For your information, I have also purchased NEW Kyosho Mini-Z-Overlands at $79.00 each and other NEW Kyosho Mini-Zs for $90-$100. Consequently, a difference of $10 is peanuts in RC. I guess I made my point.

As someone else mentioned, I'd also like to know more about this so-called data--is that the 10mph hour Xmod data? I'd also like to know more about this so-called NATIONAL race. I would have anticipated such a post on one18th about the East Coast Mini Championships, but I can't recall reading about any Radio Shack RCs participating in the event though KYOSHO was there with the Kyosho Mini-Inferno.

williams F1#3
2005.11.07, 09:09 PM
I'd also like to know more about this so-called NATIONAL race.
I was thinking XRL....hehe....

bda52
2005.11.07, 09:21 PM
Oh, the post I quoted was posted on 11/3/05 on the other board.

Here is a link to the current shows scheduled thru this week:

http://www.insiderc.com/whatson.htm

Randel Stevens
2005.11.10, 01:27 AM
Randel, over on the board you are posting the videos on you said in the thread: http://www.one18th.com/GetGallery7955.htm



Why didn't you mention that here?

Which nationals did your crew compete in? I don't follow the national R/C circut so pardon me if it seems like a stupid question.

What day will your crew be airing on Inside R/C? Also, is Krista Gibson as hot in person as she seems to be on the show? I enjoyed when she tried to race the unlimited hydroplanes. And I saw one where she was learing to fly a helicopter from a guy that has a business that takes areial photos with his rc copter.

Action RC, is that Radio Control Car Action? If so will that be in the December 05 issue?

Thanks!

AS for mention i did not go cuz thay were racing cycles and i cant say i even like them and had no idea whier would be somuch tv and mag coverage or i would have come just to get my pie hole on tv. but it ared last week and are in the current rcaction mag i think its called. also Ray and kevin did not mention anything about that hottie being on site, but knowing those two she could have been standing right next to them and nver see her.
on a new note AREA 51 has oked the new esc to be raced in spane in the 1/16th and 1/18 offroad championship series. i belive the first race is on the 28 or 25th its going to be interesting!!! oh i am not scedualed to be thier eather yet? guess you can see how important i am :cool:
TIC
TOC
TIC
TOC

Randel

byebye
2005.11.10, 02:11 AM
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on a new note AREA 51 has oked the new esc to be raced in spane in the 1/16th and 1/18 offroad championship series. i belive the first race is on the 28 or 25th its going to be interesting!!! oh i am not scedualed to be thier eather yet? guess you can see how important i am :cool:
TIC
TOC
TIC
TOC

Randel

LOL that's too funny! So could you give us a history on what led you up to finding this ESC? I'm not trying to ridicule you in any way. I'm just interested in how you got to test it. I can only imagine what it's like to run somthing prototype. I've met guys who have but they usually work for big rc companies and get to do that sort of stuff. (cough cough Roger cough cough).

-Byebye

TNB
2005.11.10, 11:21 PM
AS for mention i did not go cuz thay were racing cycles

Are you referring to the race held in Sun Valley?
Will you be at the Las Vegas TOC this weekend? Reps from both Castle and AON should be there.
What is the difference between your ESC and that of Castle and Quark?
How many comtinuous amps can your ESC handle?
What is the max surge?
How many cells?
Average temp using a 3-cell lipo?
Have you tried it in a CEN Mini-Madness?

If any of my questions have already been answered, I either missed them or thought more direct answers all in one specific place would be easier to read and find than scattered throughout several threads and numerous posts.

Randel Stevens
2005.11.11, 03:43 AM
Are you referring to the race held in Sun Valley?
Will you be at the Las Vegas TOC this weekend? Reps from both Castle and AON should be there.
What is the difference between your ESC and that of Castle and Quark?
How many comtinuous amps can your ESC handle?
What is the max surge?
How many cells?
Average temp using a 3-cell lipo?
Have you tried it in a CEN Mini-Madness?

If any of my questions have already been answered, I either missed them or thought more direct answers all in one specific place would be easier to read and find than scattered throughout several threads and numerous posts.

wont be at sun valley unless its in Spain, no wont be at las vagas this weekend ill be hunting this weekend. We cant post any data till we get the ok from Co. Its not our esc nor do we have any say at all in any way but gathering of data for the tec's to do what ever thay wont with it again we have no say. this info is just what i saw during a test it is in no way info from the co. i watched a 12 amp esc take a continiouns load drain of 35 amps and up to 39 amps for over 5 min and the esc did not reach max operating temp. as to the rest of your question thay will only be answered buy the co. when they decide to.
If thier is a 1/18 or 1/16 open off road or onroad series in LA and you or anyoneelse are interested in racing with this esc email your resume to me and i will pass it to the owner. If the race is big enouph or thier will be coverage by mags or tv and you are a top driver, thier is a chance this co. will sponcer you.


Randel
email direct at : stevens_randel@yahoo.com

TNB
2005.11.11, 11:03 AM
Its not our esc nor do we have any say at all in any way. . . If thier is a 1/18 or 1/16 open off road or onroad series in LA and you or anyoneelse are interested in racing with this esc email your resume to me and i will pass it to the owner.
If it is not your ESC and you don't have any "say at all", I can't see emailing you anything to forward to the owner. However, from your post, it also appears that this ESC must be limited to the mini-series though I still don't know if it was tried in the CEN Mini-Madness.

One reason I want to know if it has been tested in the CEN is that it is quite large for a supposed 1/18th scale and it comes stock with a 540.

And though they will soon be building a new indoor track here and already have hobby shows here, i.e. Hobby Visions and IRSHA. Some of the sponsers at the local TOC event this weekend also include Castle, Hacker, and I know AON will be there as well. I'm not sure if Quark will be there, but I know I'll find out soon enough since I will be at the TOC event with one of the brushless motor companies. Consequently, there is no need to go to LA though RC is big in SoCal; however, if you simply refuse to name the ESC company, I can't speak to the people representing the brushless motor companies. Then again, it seems obvious it is not any of the companies I have listed.

PS: One off-topic question. Is your name really Randel Stevens? I was just wondering since that may be the same name used in "The Shawshank Redemption" when Andy created the fake account to deposit all of the warden's laundered money.

eztuner12
2007.06.01, 07:11 PM
Greetings
Nice to hear there still people interested in Xmods.

Do any of you have heard or experimented transplanting a Mini-Z electronic board to an Xmod Evo?
I only quit my Xmods Evo, doe to the terrible transmitter that comes with the kit.
Any info or comments will be appreciated
Thx

marc
2007.08.12, 10:07 PM
I've got a curious question. What if Kyosho built the Xmod Evo chassis? Then how good do you think it'll be? Let's see here. Imagine Kyosho useing the same lay out as the Evo chassis. But, better electronics, better servos, better suspension, and better plastic. Then, I think the Evo would be great.
However, I still like the Xmods Evo and am in the process of building one right now. Except this one is mostly a show car cause it is simply too heavy with the full alloy treatment.
The opposite could be thought of as well. What if Radio Shack had designed, or "copied" Kyoshos AWD Mini-Z? I think it would suck.

arch2b
2009.05.08, 08:43 PM
wish granted :)