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marc
2006.07.18, 04:16 PM
Just received my WWSRacing 1/32 scale RC kit today. I posted pics of the box and contents. Build process will be slow as I want to do this right, and instructions are, well, difficult. All you get is an exploded view of the parts. No real assembly instructions. However, it does have actual front suspension. Unlike the CRT which has no front suspension, this one does. Unlike the CRT, the chassis is not adjustable. Standard size only. Also, this chassis is white fiberglass, no carbon fiber. WWSR also uses 130 size motor, differential, and optional rubber or foam tires. Here are some pics.
Plain white box, no graphics just a lable.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04834.jpg
One of two optional bodies. I chose Mercedes AMG body which is a Revell easykit.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04835.jpg
Wheels, differential, other bits.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04836.jpg
Instructions. Or lack of
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04837.jpg
Fiberglass chassis. Upper and lower decks. Not including motor mount.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04838.jpg
and here we have steering parts. Knuckles, suspension, tie-rods, etc.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04839.jpg
Looks like a good kit, just might be more difficult to build than the CRT. Keep your eyes on this thread, more pics will come as build begins...................and continues.....................................till finished.

arch2b
2006.07.18, 08:26 PM
remember to scan the chassis plates at full size ;)

marc
2006.07.18, 08:42 PM
Too Late! LOL! I already got most of the chassis put together. It's really difficult where there is no way of telling which screws go where. The drawings don't show screws, just a number with no reference. UGH! It's all a guessing game. However, I did successfully get the differential put together without losing any of those tiny balls. It helps if you add a dab of lube to the gear first, that way the balls will have something to stick too. So far, so good. Now it's just a question of finishing it up. Suspension so far seems nice and smooth. Should get another one of these kit's, or find spare suspension parts and adapt theme to the CRT. Wheels are much nicer too. Pics will come soon.

marc
2006.07.19, 11:23 AM
Got a lot of work done. The kit was easy to install in a 3 hour period. Here are some step by step photos of the build.
Differential put together and installed.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04853.jpg
Front steering and top plate
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04854.jpg
Overal look so far.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04855.jpg
Front steering and bumper.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04856.jpg
Close up of suspension.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04857.jpg
Suspension compressed.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04858.jpg
Overal look again.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04859.jpg
Battery tray and body posts
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04860.jpg
Front body post. Though placed in the wrong hole here. Should be in the front hole.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04861.jpg
Rear motor plate.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04862.jpg
Comparison shot between CRT and WWS.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04864.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04865.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04866.jpg
And that is that so far. Next to assemble is the body. I did notice that WWS kindly pre-modified the Revell Easy Kit for you by cutting off the body posts, and drilling the appropiate holes. More pics of that later. Overall, I think the WWS is a better kit than the CRT if your function over form. If your form over function, I like the CRT simply cause of the carbon fiber. However, I think the WWS will handle a lot better due to the fact it has actual working suspension and adjustable tie-rods for toe-in/ou adjustments. However, the WWS downside, is the chassis length is not adjustable. I'll let you know how it handles when I've got it running. I still need to install the motor, electronics, and battery for it. Should be a fun car!

marc
2006.07.24, 06:17 PM
Here are some updated photos of the WWS project. WWS was kind enough to prepair the body for their mounts. They pre-drilled the holes in the appropiate places for antanna and body posts. Also, they removed the stock body posts that held the car onto the chassis.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04889.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04890.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04891.jpg
And here are some mods I did to my Opel body for use on the CRT chassis.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04885.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04886.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04887.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04888.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04875.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04876.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04877.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04878.jpg
I will post pics of the finished project as soon as I get some pictures.

marc
2006.07.24, 06:22 PM
Here are the two finished projects.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04893.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04892.jpg

marc
2006.07.24, 06:23 PM
I also noticed, that my 1/32 Aoshima Initial D Toyota Trueno model body fits the WWS wheelbase perfectly, and the wheels are so darn close to the Trueno wheels, that I'm going to work on finishing the Trueno and making it fit the chassis.

marc
2006.07.24, 06:32 PM
Here's my Trueno in the works.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04926.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04927.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04928.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04929.jpg

MINIz guy11
2006.07.26, 01:36 PM
that is so cool! i need to get me one of these. but what does arch mean by scanning the chassis plates at full size? does it do anything? also, how much was this?

arch2b
2006.07.26, 01:55 PM
what i ment by that is scanning the chassis plates on the pc so that you have templates for future use. these are made in small numbers in germany so replacements are not easy to come by if at all. i scanned in all the paltes for teh crt before putting it together for this reason. i can later have replacement plates cut using the template scan if need be.

marc
2006.07.26, 07:07 PM
that is so cool! i need to get me one of these. but what does arch mean by scanning the chassis plates at full size? does it do anything? also, how much was this?

Hello there. You can contact Jim at IntrepidRC. The kit costs 125 dollars plus some shipping. You have a choice of bodies, and the bodies are pre-drilled for use on this chassis. The chassis is made of fiberglass, not like the carbon fiber CRT. However, unlike the CRT, this one does have real working suspension. I don't have any electronics for it yet, but it should be a pretty fast car. I'm thinking of useing my Aoshima 1/32 scale Initial D Trueno body on it instead of the Mercedes.
I'm still waiting on Arch for the pre-wired Mini-Z boards for my two kit's. I also have the CRT, so I will put both on a scale and compair their weights. I predict the CRT to be lighter, but who knows. They both use the same size motor, so I guess it depends on the electronics and batteries you use. I plan on useing compact lithiums on mine.

MINIz guy11
2006.07.27, 12:03 PM
i went to intrepid rc dot com and i didnt see the 1/32 scale car. only the 1/18 and the 1/24. im guessing ill have to contact him through e mail to get more infi then rihgt?

marc
2006.07.27, 03:16 PM
Yes you do. You can reach him at bradleyrc20@yahoo.com and ask him for the WWS 1/32 scale car. It will cost you 125 US dollars plus shipping. He also has spare parts for the 1/32 CRT if anybody needs any.

EPM13
2006.07.28, 07:28 AM
Aside from the transmitter and batteries, what is not delivered in the kit which is still required to get the car running? It's hard to tell from their website.

Thanks!

marc
2006.07.28, 01:36 PM
The kit is only the chassis and body. You will need batt's, tx, and electronics. Some people have modified the Mini-Z PCB to use with an aftermarket sterring servo. Iwaver 02M which should be released soon has the same size PCB board, very similar to Mini-Z only it's advantage is it has a standard 3 pin connector for aftermarket micro servos. You can use 4 small AAAA batteries, I think that's the size, or find a small lithium battery that has the same voltage as 4 AAA's.

MINIz guy11
2006.07.28, 02:14 PM
hey, is the battery place long enough to put a AAA batter long was? like the battery +faces the servo and the - face the motor and fit easily? if i can, im thinking to get one and get a bettery i know of to get in there. also, has anyone used the 1/24 wws?

marc
2006.07.28, 02:25 PM
Hello. Here are some photos of the WWS chassis with optional battery packs.
These are the small AAAA batteris I was talking about. Not sure if I have the type correct, but they are smaller than AAA's.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04947.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04948.jpg
And here is a lithium battery pack. Not sure yet what the voltage is on this, but I assume it's the same. I will ask my dad when he get's home.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04950.jpg

marc
2006.07.28, 02:34 PM
Not sure if it needs it yet, but here's my custom strut brace for the WWS chassis. I made this out of an old CRT part.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04951.jpg

arch2b
2006.07.28, 02:35 PM
i'm sure it could be made to work. if you can fit them in a crt, it would seem possible to do so with the wws as well.

http://www2.mini-zracer.com/albums/album585/IMG_1933_001.sized.jpg

my crt gallery (http://www2.mini-zracer.com/gallery/album585)

i assume the option battery pack has the same voltage as a aaa cell pack? just a shorter run time or capacity....

EPM13
2006.07.28, 04:28 PM
I'm in Germany at the moment and am going to pick up a WWS Pro 1:32 for myself on Monday, directly from wws. I had to order a week ago to have it ready. If anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask, just let me know.

WWS information, in German:
www.wws-racing.de
www.rc-tiger.com

marc
2006.07.28, 05:36 PM
i'm sure it could be made to work. if you can fit them in a crt, it would seem possible to do so with the wws as well.

http://www2.mini-zracer.com/albums/album585/IMG_1933_001.sized.jpg

my crt gallery (http://www2.mini-zracer.com/gallery/album585)

i assume the option battery pack has the same voltage as a aaa cell pack? just a shorter run time or capacity....

Man I wish I could get those razor wheels. However, I think the black wheels that come with the WWS verison looks nicer. Also, the WWS version allows for two set's of narrow wheels. Perfect for my Mini Cooper project. I'd like to get some more WWS parts such as the suspension and differential, plus two sets of narrow wheels and adapt theme to the CRT.

cdog4w
2006.07.28, 07:46 PM
I'm in Germany at the moment and am going to pick up a WWS Pro 1:32 for myself on Monday, directly from wws. I had to order a week ago to have it ready. If anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask, just let me know.

WWS information, in German:
www.wws-racing.de
www.rc-tiger.com

What kind of price did you get out of curiousity? Current price to beat is $125 + shipping...

I'd really love to pick one of these 1/32 cars up...

someday :)

marc
2006.07.28, 08:32 PM
What kind of price did you get out of curiousity? Current price to beat is $125 + shipping...

I'd really love to pick one of these 1/32 cars up...

someday :)

Hi there. I originally got my kit for 100 US dollars because at that time, Jim did not know how much it was going to cost to have it shipped from Germany to him. So I got a good deal on it. Worth the money. The only disadvantage to the WWS chassis, is it is not adjustable like the CRT is. One size fits all sort of. You can only use bodies that have the same wheelbase. If you want adjustability, look for a CRT.

EPM13
2006.07.29, 06:53 AM
I'm getting it for the price listed on the rc-tiger shop link, 99 Euros. With the current exchange rate, that's about $125, but no shipping since I'm picking it up.

EPM13
2006.07.29, 06:57 AM
Oh, and supposedly there's a Ferrari Modena kit he sells alongside the 2 Mercedes kits. I might just get that instead, but I'll take a look first and decide there.

marc
2006.07.29, 10:46 AM
post some photos of your car when it's complete. Also any personal mods you've done to it as well. I was not told about the Ferrari when I ordered mine. Anyway, I'm going to work on my 1/32 scale Trueno model body for this chassis.

marc
2006.07.29, 11:03 AM
i'm sure it could be made to work. if you can fit them in a crt, it would seem possible to do so with the wws as well.

http://www2.mini-zracer.com/albums/album585/IMG_1933_001.sized.jpg

my crt gallery (http://www2.mini-zracer.com/gallery/album585)

i assume the option battery pack has the same voltage as a aaa cell pack? just a shorter run time or capacity....

Not sure about the voltage, but I presume it is. I know that the small green batteries are, but not sure about that lithium battery. I do know the voltage on the CRT's lithium battery is correct. But the smaller lithium battery does not have any information on it. I'll have to ask my dad when he comes back home from OshGosh.

marc
2006.07.29, 12:18 PM
Holes marked for drilling Trueno.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04956.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04957.jpg
Holes drilled. Started with tiny hole first as a pilot hole, then went with bigger drills
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04958.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04959.jpg
Body mounted. Perfection! May need to trim the front fenders for better steering and fit.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04960.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04961.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04962.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04964.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04965.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04966.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04967.jpg
Now for some primer and repainting.

marc
2006.07.29, 12:38 PM
I'm in Germany at the moment and am going to pick up a WWS Pro 1:32 for myself on Monday, directly from wws. I had to order a week ago to have it ready. If anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask, just let me know.

WWS information, in German:
www.wws-racing.de
www.rc-tiger.com

When you visit WWS, ask theme if they will make an adjustable version of this chassis so we can use other bodies as well such as Mini Cooper and other such cars. Also ask theme about possibilities for a carbon fiber version.

EPM13
2006.07.29, 04:30 PM
OK. I'll ask

marc
2006.07.29, 04:44 PM
Trueno primed and ready for paint.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04968.jpg

marc
2006.07.29, 05:07 PM
Enjoy your visit with theme and take pics if you can. Would like to see their manufacturing equipment and design center. If possible. Also would like to see their other products. Keep us posted!

marc
2006.07.29, 08:00 PM
Here are my two Initial D 1/32 scale RC cars. Mazda RX7 FC3S on CRT, and AE86 Toyota Trueno on WWSRacing.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04971.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04972.jpg
I've used the factory mounting posts for the WWS kit, but I'm not sure how to mount the RX7 on the CRT. Any suggestions? It has a front slot for mounting it to the model chassis, but what about the sides?

marc
2006.07.29, 10:17 PM
Did some weighing in with a small scale. I compared the CRT chassis with lithium battery pack, versus the WWS with ni-cads. Next, I will remove the batteries on both cars, and weigh just the chassis. Here is what I found so far.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04973.jpg
WWS weighs 3.8oz.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04974.jpg
CRT weighs 3.4oz.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04975.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04976.jpg
Until I remove the batteries, I'm not sure if the weight difference is with the chassis, or the batteries, but there is a .4oz difference.

EPM13
2006.07.31, 05:54 PM
I was at the WWS Racing shop today. I didn't get to take many photos, but I did have a chance to speak to Herr Wiebe and I took notes. I got the same AMG Mercedes kit as Marc, but I bought a separate Ferrari body as well.

I hope you don't mind, but I'm moving back to the states tomorrow and I have a lot of unfinished packing still to do. I'll write down what I learned on Wednesday. Thanks for the patience.

marc
2006.07.31, 06:04 PM
No problem, I'm, not actually going to use that Mercedes. I'm useing my 1/32 Aoshima Initial D AE86 Trueno model body for mine.
Also Arch, if your reading I need help. I've been trying to find the right set of rubber tires for my CRT and can not get the right set. I was at my local hobby shop today that had all kinds of slot car parts, mostly all ScaleTrix, and bought a set of silicone tires that I thought would fit right. Well, width and hight was not a problem, but they seem to sag in the middle and I don't think this will work for RC use. Any suggestions? I desperatly need a set of tires for my CRT. The foams are getting bad, and they won't work on my hard wood floors. Not real wood, it's that fake plastic wood, but it's slippery none the less. Foams won't cut it. Can you give me suggestions for tires for my CRT?

marc
2006.07.31, 06:21 PM
Hey Arch, here are some pics I took of the new rubber on my CRT.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04977.jpg
Back looks fine,
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04978.jpg
But notice the sagging on the left tire. Some reason, the right tire does not do that. I wonder if there is something underneath it that prevents the sagging. Do you think the sagging will be a problem?
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04979.jpg

marc
2006.07.31, 07:56 PM
Got a great start on the Panda Trueno. Perfect lines so far. The only place where I'll cheat is the delicate line across the door. I will use a thin black pint-stripe for that.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04980.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04981.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04982.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04983.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04984.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04985.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04986.jpg
The kit provides decales for the taillights etc, so I wont need to paint those in. Needs a little more trimming on the left corner where the corner meets the turn signal. Overal, a much better job then when I tried to mask and spray. All this was done by hand. This is Aoshima's 1/32 scale Initial D series model kits that were to be motorized. Fit the WWS chassis perfectly. Oh, and I used my AutoScale Initial D Mini-Z Trueno for reference so I know exactly where to paint the black. Perfection!

marc
2006.07.31, 08:30 PM
Window frames and door handle painted. And yes, I decided I will put the Tofu Delivery decal on it.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04987.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04988.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04989.jpg
And a comparison shot, Mini-Z forground, Aoshima model background on top of box. Just needs some decales, and clear coat. Mount the windshield, and she'll be good to go.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04990.jpg

marc
2006.07.31, 10:43 PM
Decales applied, pint stripe applied. All that's needed is the 1/43 scale carbon fiber decal on the hood. Even though it's 1/32 scale model, the 1/43 scale decale looks just right on a 1/32 as it does 1/43. Such a small difference. But I'm tired and ready for bed so the hood will wait till tomarrow. Meanwhile, enjoy the show.
See how clean the pint stripping made it look?
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04991.jpg
and yes, even though you can't see it, the Toyota emblem is in the middle of the grill as it should be.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04992.jpg
Fujiwara Tofu Delivery
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04993.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04995.jpg
The view most of his competition sees
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04996.jpg
You can bairly make out the red Sprinter decal on the right side.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC04997.jpg
Tomarrow when I'm more awake, I'll do the carbon bonnet. Clear coat it all, more pics,
install the windshiled, and walla! Tak, this ones for you! Oops, I just realized two mistakes. The Trueno decal in the middle above the liscence plate, should actually be up front, and the Toyota decale that's upfront, should be back here. Oh well, too late now. Not worth risking the finish to correct it. LOL! Oops.

marc
2006.08.02, 09:38 PM
Well, other than some electronics to run the car, some possible trimming, it's finished. I applied ScaleMotorSport's 1/43 scale carbon fiber decal on the hood, and clear coated it. Mounted the windshiled, and plopped it on the chassis for photos. However, I think the front fenders will require some trimming to allow room for the front's to turn. However, I think this model turned out sweet. An exact miniture to my Mini-Z version.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC05025.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC05029.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC05031.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC05034.jpg
I fixed the mistake I made earlier be removing the extra Trueno decal at the rear.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC05035.jpg
And a comparison shot. 1/28 scale Mini-Z background, and 1/32 scale WWSRacing up front. For the Mini-Z's hood, I used ScaleMotorSports 1/24 scale carbon fiber decal.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC05037.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC05038.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC05041.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/DSC05040.jpg
You think I should trim the chassis bumper to match the shape of the car's bumper? Let me know what you all think.

EPM13
2006.08.10, 04:03 PM
Sorry that this has been so long in the coming. It's been crazy here with my having moved.

Anyway, I went to the WWS Racing shop in Wiesbaden, Germany. It's run by Mr. Wilfried Wiebe and his wife. They were very friendly and took time out to speak to me. They have one American distributor, who also gets some support from Mr. Wiebe's daughter who lives in the US.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n307/epm13/wws01.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n307/epm13/wws02.jpg

WWS Racing doesn't carry a stock of the 1:32 cars, especially in the summer time. Winter is mostly the season for them. So, if you want one, it'll take about a week to get it. They couldn't promise to have mine delivered in a week because Mr. Wiebe went to a meet on the weekend prior to my visit. This is why I went personally to get it.

I wasn't invited into his workroom and just stayed in the shop area, so unfortunately I don't have any photos to show. Mr. Wiebe does design and cut the chassis himself, while his wife takes care of the shop.

I purchased the Mercedes Benz CLK DTM AMG, but I also got the Revell easykit Ferrari 360 Challenge.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n307/epm13/wws_ferrari.jpg

He only had a black one in stock, but said there are others. The American distributor bought a number of the kits and is selling them. He might not even known about the Ferrari body. Mr. Wiebe is pretty much sticking to using the Revell easykits for his bodies. He doesn't intend to build his own bodies. The Audi and Opel bodies don't fit the sets, though, because the fronts are too narrow. One thing to remember is that the Mercedes, Audi, and Opel bodies come from the popular German DTM racing series (www.dtm.de). Several ex-Formula 1 drivers take part in this, like Mika Hakkinen, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, and Jean Alesi. It has a decent market share in Europe and it's enough for him to use these to sell the cars. As far as creating adapters or adjustable versions of the chassis, he has no plans for doing this, but he does take custom orders.

Another question which had come up was the reasoning for him not making a carbon fiber chassis. He finds the carbon chassis weaker than the fiberglass one. The weight that you save is negligible once you start sticking in all the electronics. He did state that he would make carbon chassis on demand if anyone wanted one. The price would be higher and he didn't quote one.

EPM13
2006.08.10, 04:05 PM
I did speak to him concerning electronics for the car. Here are his recommendations. They are partly German products, so I don't know about availability in the US.

Servo:
Hitec HS-50
Stay away from GWS. He considers them cheap. He's had bad experiences with them.

Receiver:
Schulze alpha-440
40 MHz
Order number 82440

Speed controller:
Schulze race-06rek

Batteries:
5x 350 mAH KAN Cells
Lithium polymer cells would be ok as well.

I picked up a Schulze race-06rek speed controller as well, but he didn't have the other items in stock. He gave me a couple of tips on putting the car together. These are a little difficult to write up here. I haven't started to put it together yet, and I think it'll still take some time before I get to it. Here are some other things he said.

1. You can sand the rear tires to control grip and slide. He's built a tire sanding machine, which he offers as well. I don't know the price, but it connects to a 12 volt power supply.

2. You can dab a little krazy glue or something similar on the outer rim of the rear tires to slide on corners. He showed me a finished car which had this.

3. As Marc also wrote, you should dab a bit of lube on the differential disc for the balls to stick to when assembling.

4. The rear wheels require a 2.5mm wrench.

EPM13
2006.08.10, 04:08 PM
I'm going to check on the model number of the servo again. I'm not sure the number I have is correct. That one is only for planes.

marc
2006.08.10, 05:22 PM
Hi there. Thanks for the update. I wish I knew about the Ferrari when I ordered mine. But I'm very happy with the way my Trueno came out and I'm sure it's a one of a kind so far. Please post some pics of your car in progress and of coarse when finished.

arch2b
2006.08.10, 05:31 PM
thanks for the updates.

you can find all the revell easy kits on revell's german website. they have a red gtc f360 as well i think. there are also some dakar truck ;) those would be interesting to use.

i think i would prefer fiberglass as well simply for the cheaper cost. it's comperable to cf and less of a hassle to work with i'm told. i would not get hung up on having cf for the sake of having cf. it would just be a waste of money in my opinion.

shame he isn't going to do an adjustable chassis. chalk up one plus for the crt...

i used a hitec servo on my crt and would stick with them as well. mine has worked very well however they are not exactly cheap.

EPM13
2006.08.11, 05:16 PM
I wrote Herr Wiebe an email concerning the electronics. Here's his answer:

The Hitec Servo is called the HS - 50 order nr. 070 - 050
The Schulze receiver alpha - 5.40 replaces the alpha - 440 and has the same order nr. 82440

cdog4w
2006.10.25, 06:02 PM
Any updates Marc? Hopefully you've gotten it driving in the meantime? intrepid finally posted the kit and parts list on their website, tempting me again...

Need to save my $ for the micro-t though :)

marc
2006.10.25, 07:15 PM
Any updates Marc? Hopefully you've gotten it driving in the meantime? intrepid finally posted the kit and parts list on their website, tempting me again...

Need to save my $ for the micro-t though :)

Hi there. Thansk for asking, sorry no updates. Still trying to find micro electronics for it. Arch should be working on that for me now. Will let you know how it goes when I get it running. I am also waiting for the micro-t as well as the Mini-Z Lit. Save, save, save! ! ! !

arch2b
2006.10.31, 12:17 PM
marc will be using atomic ar-177 pcb set with whatever micro pcb set i can pick up at a good price. i will tryh to upgrade as much of the wires as i can with what i have as this is one of the common suggestions for this pcb set. as soon as i get the servo's i'll post pictues of the servo wire up/pcb set.

one thing is certain, marc will not have to worry about burning fets with these boards since they come with 4562 fets.

marc
2006.10.31, 12:22 PM
marc will be using atomic ar-177 pcb set with whatever micro pcb set i can pick up at a good price. i will tryh to upgrade as much of the wires as i can with what i have as this is one of the common suggestions for this pcb set. as soon as i get the servo's i'll post pictues of the servo wire up/pcb set.

one thing is certain, marc will not have to worry about burning fets with these boards since they come with 4562 fets.

Thank you Arch for the update. Your efforts are greatly appreciated and I look forward to it. The more I look at my Trueno on the WWS chassis, the more I think I might use the Mercedes that came with it. Mainly because I don't want to modify the front wheel well's on the Trueno to accomidate the chassis. I might anyway since I already drilled the holes for the mounting posts. We'll see. I am definetly anxious to see how the CRT runs, and I hope the tires I have for it will be good enough. They look cool, but question is will they work? I also hope I can keep the Peugeot's interior with the electronics.

MINIz guy11
2006.11.01, 03:42 PM
arch, how are the atomic boards? are the enjoy r/c ones that same also?

marc
2006.11.01, 03:50 PM
Anybody selling their 1/32 CRT? I still want one for my Mini Cooper project. Don't want to change the one I've got now.

arch2b
2006.11.01, 04:09 PM
i do not knnow anything about the enjoyr/c/atomic ar-177 boards other than what i've read here on the forums. marc's are still fresh in thier packages waiting for micro sevro's to appear.

facts:
4562 forward/reverse fets
iwaver board (generation not identified)
roughly 1/3 the cost of a kyosho stock racer board

if you want to go all out, save up for the mini-z lit board which is ad band, my guess less than $100.

if you need rock bottom price, get the epoch rc set, about $10.

marc
2006.11.01, 04:12 PM
Thanks arch for the update? Any ETA on those servos?

cdog4w
2006.11.02, 04:48 PM
How much are the adband modules and how much are the boards? Is there a package price for 1 board + module?

Can't wait to see how the WWS turns out and hear how it compares to the CRT.

arch2b
2006.11.02, 05:26 PM
an ad band module would be expensive to purchase and even more if you have to pick up a capable transmitter as well. you can find prices on ko propo's website.
you can puchase an ad band board+module from ko propo but that would include the mini-z racer board, not an lit board.

wait to see if the lit tranmitter will be sold seperately as well.

marc
2006.11.02, 05:58 PM
That reminds me Arch, which transmitter can I use with the system your making for me?

arch2b
2006.11.02, 08:57 PM
any transmitter that works with mini-z's.

i think i found a good deal on a couple hs-55 servo's ;)

marc
2006.11.02, 09:22 PM
Cool! Looking forward to it! Anybody else got a WWSRacing 1/32 kit? Arch? Are you getting one? I'd like to see some pictures of other peoples kit's and bodies. Also, please note any personal mods you've done to yours. I think I showed picture of my carbon fiber strut bar. Don't know if it needs it or not, but I like it.
I think somebody else got it direct from the manufacturer. Please post pics of your projects here.

cdog4w
2006.11.03, 08:26 PM
Cool! Looking forward to it! Anybody else got a WWSRacing 1/32 kit? Arch? Are you getting one? I'd like to see some pictures of other peoples kit's and bodies. Also, please note any personal mods you've done to yours. I think I showed picture of my carbon fiber strut bar. Don't know if it needs it or not, but I like it.
I think somebody else got it direct from the manufacturer. Please post pics of your projects here.

I'm waiting to hear how you like yours first marc :)

Checked KO, $99 from their shopatron for AD module and mini-z sized board. I have a KO Mars so it would drop right in :)

I'm a bit frightened since the Lit standard board is already $80 or so the shop here. Unless the Lit board is already ADBand?

marc
2006.11.03, 09:47 PM
As soon as I get the electronics from Arch, I'll put'em in and let everyone know what I think of it.

marc
2006.11.07, 06:09 PM
Hey Arch, gotten a hold of those servos yet? I think we're all waiting to see how the WWS Racing car runs. Thanks!

arch2b
2006.11.09, 01:55 PM
infact i did! 2 brand new hs-55 servo's. i should have them sometime next week. i'll post pictures of all the stuff when i get it all.

marc
2006.11.09, 01:57 PM
Sweet! Thanks Arch. By the way, can I request the shop to order a special, and rare GPM part for my MR02 Mini-Z? I'm hunting for a gold GPM MM motor mount. I'll post pic of it soon.

marc
2006.11.09, 01:59 PM
This is the GPM part I need. http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/GPMMotormount.jpg
But I need it in gold.

arch2b
2006.11.09, 04:38 PM
submit a support ticket from the shop menu. it's the best way for 1 on 1 communications for shop related issues.

arch2b
2006.11.19, 02:39 PM
here are the pictures reqeuested

marc
2006.11.19, 03:00 PM
Cool! Now let's see it all put together! Thanks arch, no rush needed. Quality takes time!

MINIz guy11
2006.11.19, 04:57 PM
so how is the fit and finish on those enjoy rc boards?

marc
2006.11.21, 12:28 PM
Hey arch, how soon can you get the servo's wired to the PCB's? Three weeks from now would be nice for the next local Mini-Z races. Please keep me posted, thank you so much, great help!

arch2b
2006.11.21, 12:40 PM
that could be possible. we have the holiday weekend coming and dc won't race again till dec. 16/17th. i'll have them done before then at the lastest.

marc
2006.11.21, 12:44 PM
Thanks arch. Much appreciated. I just hope my chosen tires will be addequite for the car. They seem to fit fine, but I don't know yet how they will work . I still need to work out a tie-rod system and battery pack. Can you tell me what I need for juice? Will it be the same as the Mini-Z's requireing 4 AAA's? Can I use a lithium polymer battery pack for it? What battery system are you useing on your CRT?

arch2b
2006.11.21, 12:48 PM
it's an iwaver board so whatever works for them. i know nothing about using li cells

i had blindbatteries make me 2 4 aaa cell packs. i just use deans micro plugs to connec then to the board and dc charger. i have not figured out a way to get 4 loose cells installed so if you don't have a dc charger, you need to get one. a cheap gws or similar will do so long as it will do 4 nimh cells.

marc
2006.11.21, 12:53 PM
Thanks, we've got plenty of chargers that should do it. I wonder if the charger that came with my Tamtech will work. Not sure. Please post photos of your work so me and others can see how to do it. Thanks again!

marc
2006.11.21, 12:55 PM
I also wonder what kind of circutry is going to be in the new Micro-T. My local hobby store has theme on order and will be holding one for me. I wonder if that will be small enough for the 1/32 scale cars.

LBRC
2006.11.21, 03:16 PM
The circuit board is approx. 1 wide x 1.65 long.

cdog4w
2007.09.07, 07:39 PM
You ever get it running marc?

marc
2007.09.07, 10:43 PM
Nope. Actually thinking about selling the chassis. I almost forgot about it till I saw it sitting in my room the other day with the Trueno body still on it. The body needs work to fit properly, and I just don't see my self finishing it. If anybody is interested, make me an offer. I dont' want to put it up for sale, but if I get an offer I like, I'll let it go.

cdog4w
2007.09.08, 01:06 PM
You have email disabled btw, but I was going to see if you were interested in a BRP SC18 (V1Pro or V2) in trade with some cash for the wws? Also, keep the trueno body so that if you ever get a WWS again you can use it on that. I would be plenty happy with the AMG body as I'm a huge Mercedes fan. Let me know, tho I suggest email as this thread isn't the proper place to conduct this sort of business :)

marc
2007.09.08, 03:06 PM
Agreed. You can contact me at Marccrx@aol.com Unfortunetly, I no longer have that AMG body. It is currently missing in action so you would need to find another body to use on it.