PDA

View Full Version : Can you're OL do this? Here's my xmod-T!!!


newbitowner
2006.07.31, 09:34 PM
I bought an X5 before I bought an evo-T. I never went back to an OL because it can't be hopped up to have 4WD.

This F150 has all the RS performance upgrades, turbo fets, low gears, locked F&R gpm diffs, gpm knuckles, gpm skid plate, stock motor (for now)

going over rocks
http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=21lo1td

driving through loose dirt and rocks (notice how the 4WD enables the truck to steer L to R)
http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=21lmvzm

over a small hill
http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=21loead

climbing with a G35 in the back
http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=21ln9c8

towing a skyline and g35 around (throttle is in high setting, but only the second step in throttle)
http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=21logex

arch2b
2006.07.31, 09:59 PM
i do not see anyting an overland could not do.

further more, i have an xmods truck and it's garbage in my opinion. the horrible slop in the steering makes it virtually worthless with the suspension upgrade and larger tires. the stock ground clearance is laughable.
http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/657/medium/IMG_2113.JPG

as you can guess, i don't think very highly of the xmods truck. i don't even bother racing it either. frankly i prefer the evo over the truck anyday.

get a fet upgrade, lssm shock mod and super swampers and any overland will easily do all that an xmods truck will do with only 2wd.

i do like your f150 body though :) now this has ground clearance
http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/657/medium/IMG_21741.JPG

TuNeR1989
2006.07.31, 10:05 PM
Personally i love both the OL and Xmod truck. I find that with a good set of bearings most if not all of the slop in the wheels of the x-truck is taken out and it makes for a good dirt racer/basher.
For climbing though with articulation etc. OL rules that area.

pomme de terre
2006.08.01, 01:08 AM
driving through loose dirt and rocks (notice how the 4WD enables the truck to steer L to R)

???
So 4WD helps you steer, I guess you dont need a servo anymore then :rolleyes:

Are you sure your diffs are locked? Your xmod got stuck on that little bump pretty easily.

And it seems like you havent really seen many OLs before if you think what you did in the video is too much for an OL to handle.

skyline driver
2006.08.01, 12:26 PM
Not sure what you mean about the 4WD and the steering. :confused:

When you have an OL was it stock or was it modded? There's no doubt that a modded OL could do everything in those videos.

In the second to last video, did the F150 fall off? It looked like it did but the video was cut off last second.

imxlr8ed
2006.08.01, 01:27 PM
Guess I'll add my 2 cents...

Well, it's very cool what you have done so far... but I wouldn't go as far as you in putting down the Overland just because it's not 4WD. I've personally seen OLs climb nearly vertical surfaces... I've seen the very same OLs win races against MR02s as well. (Gasman and I got crazy with our Pajeros one night) So... if versatility is what you're looking for, I'd go OL... not because I'm a Kyosho nut, just because performance means that much to me. I'm sure if you surfed this site for a while, you'd find some pretty amazing OL vids. I doubt a hopped Xmod truck could even hold a candle to a stock OL when it comes to control, range, and outright power.

I'd like to see an Xmod truck keep up with this speed level...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9037882056019951188&q=dow

Yes... I know, I need to make more new vids... :rolleyes:

newbitowner
2006.08.01, 04:45 PM
First of all, thanks all the interests and questions. I tried to come off a little agressive in the title to get OL owners to comment and ask questions.

Anyone have vids of a 2WD doing some off-roading?

arch2b, where'd you can those tires? Did you have to trim a lot to prevent rubbing?

So 4WD helps you steer, I guess you dont need a servo anymore then

Are you sure your diffs are locked? Your xmod got stuck on that little bump pretty easily.

Yes, a 2WD truck would understeer in that condition. The rear wheels would just push the car straight. The shock mounts are mounted right in front of the tire. Hours after the video, I modified the suspension so that the tire will make contact before the tire does.

Here's a pic to show how it looks now . You can see the holes where the shocks were designed to be mounted.
http://i7.tinypic.com/21nfayp.jpg

When you have an OL was it stock or was it modded? There's no doubt that a modded OL could do everything in those videos.

I only bought gears and an X-speed for it. I didn't go any further because it would still be 2WD.

In the second to last video, did the F150 fall off? It looked like it did but the video was cut off last second.

No it didn't fall off.

I'd like to see an Xmod truck keep up with this speed level...

A car can go though that course! I've only been impressed by the custom 4WD OLs I've seen on youtube.

danielk
2006.08.03, 10:34 AM
well, i think this is my first post but ive ben lurking in the back alley waiting for something like this to come up. you OL fans say a modded xmod truck still isnt any good. have you seen my "modded"(for lack of a better definition) evo-t? i call it DesKrawler

way more clearance than stock


much more travel too. alomst twice as much


front


front compressed


i am no noob nor am i stupid. you cant tell me that this thing isnt capable. it also isnt finished but when it is it will crawl all over an OL. literally

PS sorry for the giant pics but i dont know how to make them smaller with this setup.

**resize your images and repost :) they were certainly worth looking at

pomme de terre
2006.08.03, 09:09 PM
Well you could resize them before you host it... or just link instead of embedding the images. Btw I dont think anyone said
you OL fans say a modded xmod truck still isnt any good.
From how I interpreted the other posts, they said the xtruck is no good even with the RS hopups (lift kit etc)

Yes, a 2WD truck would understeer in that condition. The rear wheels would just push the car straight. The shock mounts are mounted right in front of the tire. Hours after the video

I hope you mean that it would spin out, not understeer. 4WD cars tend to understeer more than RWD, and on loose dirt (or w/e you were driving on, I couldnt tell) a RWD car would be more likely to spin out.

I modified the suspension so that the tire will make contact before the tire does.

Im not quite sure what you mean by that? :confused: tire making contact before tire?

Over Land Man
2006.08.03, 09:22 PM
omg huge pics lol

did you atleast change out the elctronics?

pomme de terre
2006.08.03, 09:25 PM
Heres a vid of an xtruck and an OL doing the exact same course
From this thread:http://ripper7racing.com/vforums/showthread.php?t=2598

http://www.ripper7racing.com/vids/xmodtest.wmv

4wd is not over rated, the xmod does lack power or the delivery of power and the drive system has play which causes the front drive to loose power.

The Xtruck is never stuck in the video, it just does not have the power to reverse out of the situation or needs a running start, the OL has the power to loose traction when stuck not just sit there.

When this truck opens up and gets moving it drives great, much better than an OL, and in the corners it is awesome, but off the line it is horrible and the reverse is pathetic.

I guess its the quality issues associated with rat shack thats the thing hindering their cars the most.

imxlr8ed
2006.08.04, 12:14 PM
A car can go though that course! I've only been impressed by the custom 4WD OLs I've seen on youtube.

Doubtful... the log bridge would've done a good job of holding up a racer style car.

I think you're missing the point here... I've driven Xmod trucks before, I know what kind of quality issues they have. Sure AWD is an advantage, but coupled with all of the other problems that the Xmods have, they can't hold a candle to the MiniZ as far as consistency goes. When you are racing others (as opposed to just terrain cruising for fun), consistency and predictability is key ! I've had my Overland climbing all kinds of stuff and I can honestly say that when it got hung up on things, 4WD would'nt have helped it out of the situation anyways most of the time.

Look, it's good that you're into it... but please realize that you are going to get this kind of revelry when you talk about your Xmod on a MiniZ site. (especially when you are being "aggressive".)

You know... all of us on this site can remember the days of Xmodders claiming that their Xmods were better all around racing vehicles than the Kyoshos... I think HFAY put an end to all that nonsense real fast ! Now, there are Hi-performance Xmods... and there are Hi-performance MiniZs, and I think they are all cool.

(once again, don't get me wrong here... I love anything 1/28th ! and before someone gets emotional about it, remember my mantra... they're just little plastic cars... they're just little plastic cars.... ;) )

If it's fast, I'll drive it.

All said and done, great job on the truck and I can't wait to see your next project !

newbitowner
2006.08.04, 06:25 PM
PS sorry for the giant pics but i dont know how to make them smaller with this setup.

Can you email the pics? impala2345@aol.com

Im not quite sure what you mean by that? tire making contact before tire

I meant to say that, I modified the suspension so that the tire will make contact before the suspension does. "

danielk
2006.08.13, 07:28 PM
ok i finally got back to the forum.

babymj2 aka newbitowner, youve seen it all over our other forum. shoot.

im just going to post links to the pics.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/danielwgk/P8020021.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/danielwgk/P8020023.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/danielwgk/P8020024.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/danielwgk/P8020025.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/danielwgk/P8020022.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/danielwgk/P8030037.jpg

Roketmini
2006.08.16, 04:44 PM
Hey dan, I'm not sure it I said this at xmodrc, but you may have an Overland killer if you find a way to get rid of steering slop in your crawler (unless you already have).

Over Land Man
2006.08.16, 11:00 PM
i dont know if your quite there yet. i mean with stock xmod elecs hardly beats an ol in quality. axel clearance looks a little low still :rolleyes:

take a look at these, these are true ol killers

http://www.mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19671

http://www.mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22446

DogbreathRacing
2006.09.12, 06:19 AM
...didn't see anything in those vids that would pose any sort of trouble to a good old 2WD OL...
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1651/rott3jf1.jpg

danielk
2006.09.19, 09:53 PM
eww...there is so much extra junk in the way of the wheel paths on that chassis. you pretty much killed the approach angle...