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Tim Johnson
2006.12.28, 07:32 PM
NASCAR, the most popular racing series in the US, has teamed up with Kyosho to produce the only hobby-grade, officially licensed NASCAR RC cars available in the world.



The Kyosho team visited the racing development facilities of many of the top NASCAR racing teams, and even attended NASCAR events, all in an effort to ensure that the bodies include exceptional detail that is unmatched in accuracy and scale.



The Mini-Z i-Series chassis features the same quality chassis construction as the rest of the Mini-Z line-up, which is the standard when it comes to mini RC vehicles. It has independent front suspension with solid axle rear suspension, just like the full-size racecars. Additionally, the electronics feature full digital proportional control, instead of the analog resistor-type controllers so common in cheaper mini-size cars. This means you have fully proportional control of forward, reverse, and steering with digital precision.



The series begins with the 2005 Ford Taurus of Carl Edwards and the 2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo of Kevin Harvick. The 2005 Taurus represents the car used by Edwards for his first full season of NASCAR NEXTEL Cup racing for Roush Racing, in which he scored four wins and two poles. Harvick's 2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo is a replica of the Childress Racing car used to win at Phoenix, Watkins Glen and Richmond, and the same car that won a total of five races and one pole award during the 2006 season.

30793-29B - Kevin Harvick '06 Goodwrench #29 Chevrolet Monte Carlo - Street Price: $99.99

30792-99B - Carl Edwards '05 Office Depot #99 Ford Taurus - Street Price: $99.99
***Due End of February

http://www.jrxs.com/forums/uploads/post-1-1167354073.jpg

http://www.jrxs.com/forums/uploads/post-1-1167354060.jpg

arch2b
2006.12.28, 07:46 PM
tim, thank you very much for sharing the news :)

the first questions is rather obvious, will there be unpainted bodies? when can we expect these to be on shelves?

Ninja
2006.12.28, 07:59 PM
I heard that the chassis was a MR-015 i-Series, any info in this?

Tim Johnson
2006.12.28, 08:05 PM
I heard that the chassis was a MR-015 i-Series, any info in this?

This is true. It will be on the MR-015 I-series chassis. The PCB is the main difference between the I-series and the standard Mini-Z.

arch2b
2006.12.28, 08:09 PM
I heard that the chassis was a MR-015 i-Series, any info in this?
it's clearly stated in the 3rd paragraph down in his post

arch2b
2006.12.28, 08:16 PM
additional questions
what wheelbase? what wheel offsets? are those special tires?

jbevins
2006.12.28, 09:28 PM
I think that's sweet, it's about time that Kyosho use other cars besides sports and Super cars, but wish that they would come out with some old muscle cars

HammerZ
2006.12.28, 09:35 PM
I'd like to see the old muscle cars too. Nascar fans will be happy with the street price, these things will be everywhere. As I posted before I know at least two fans that would be all over these, and a few more may pop up before too long.

Ninja
2006.12.28, 09:38 PM
arch, I see it says i-Series, but it doesnt specify 015 or 02 :confused:

just judging by the width and wheelbase I would say it is an 015 MM set at the 102mm wheelbase, but I'm just guessing, and wanted solid info.

lfisminiz
2006.12.28, 09:52 PM
Im not a BIG nascar fan. I am a big mini-z fan and im glad there comming out with them. Ill buy them for my collection. Its on an 015 chassis.

Roketmini
2006.12.28, 10:01 PM
No Jeff Gordon body? I'm disapointed.

Not to stereotype or be rude, but this will give "rednecks" something to drive other than T-Maxxes :D

Ninja
2006.12.28, 10:09 PM
lmao, you have a point there. They will also have something to race against the "Ricer" guys in their baggy jeans and tight fitting shirts. :p

arch2b
2006.12.28, 10:43 PM
arch, I see it says i-Series, but it doesnt specify 015 or 02 :confused:

just judging by the width and wheelbase I would say it is an 015 MM set at the 102mm wheelbase, but I'm just guessing, and wanted solid info.
your correct :) the kyosho vox gallery had it listed as an mr-015 i believe.

arch2b
2006.12.28, 10:55 PM
lets stick to the topic please :) this is not about what bodies you would like, there are plenty of threads already that could use additions to the request list.

Draconious
2006.12.28, 10:55 PM
Are they going to be the Mini-Z 1:27-1:28 or... the F1 1:24?

arch2b
2006.12.28, 10:59 PM
it should not be hard to do the math to figure it out. we know the given wheelbase options for the mr-015 and the dimensions for the 1:1 have to be somewhere.

there is a slight chance i guess they could make a custom wheelbase just for these as they did for the mini-vans. this could be addressed by my earlier question i posted already regarding the wheelbase and offset.

on a serious note, this choice will do wonders for bringing kyosho into main stream america. it will make it that much easier hopefully for lhs owners to stock and carry mini-z parts.

HammerZ
2006.12.28, 11:35 PM
Last questions, how long till the shop here will have these? Will the shop have a preorder set up?

imxlr8ed
2006.12.29, 03:11 AM
Now you know they have to make white body sets for these... I think it would be a bad call if they didn't do that right away !

Another weapon to recruit newbies... I just hope they will like turning more than one direction ! (oval sucks :p ... there, I said it ! ... unless it's on dirt, then it's a whole new sport ! :cool: )

Still waiting for my mainstream late 60s, early 70s Muscle car lineup ! :rolleyes:

supafastsupra2
2006.12.29, 08:15 AM
Kyosho isn't stupid, they are going to milk the readysets for a while and people will buy them just for the bodies, and eventually release the bodies alone after a while, just like all of their new release bodies. :rolleyes:

Draconious
2006.12.29, 08:32 AM
well seeing as a lot of the muscle cars were nascars at some point, there may be a classic nascar/stockcar series ;) Taledegas and Road Runners...

briankstan
2006.12.29, 09:35 AM
I'm not a huge Nascar fan, but I've been know to watch a race or 2.

I will be getting these bodies as I love the race themed bodies. I hope plans are in the works to make some more of the teams.

Hopefully some of the new teams will be producted for the F1's as well ;) and be released as Autoscales. ;)

Looks like I'm going to need some more shelf space. :D

HaCo
2006.12.29, 10:37 AM
I think this is a great initiative. If you are fan of NASCAR or not, this IS great. I think Kyosho should get more in contact with race series like they do with NASCAR now. Look at it like this: a litle (or big) nascar fan can buy these models and drive them in his living room for less then $100, I think there will be a big respons on that and if only 5% becomes a bigger fan of MiniZ it is already great for us! It should be promoted the right way (like putting a commercial in autosport magazines...)

Just hope same thing happens in Europe too, just one series (and not F1!) like FIA GT and I think a lot more people will buy the cars if promoted the right way. They started with the F360 GT and F575 GT in livery, why not add an Aston Martin, Masterati MC-12, make some commercials in some big magazines and the response will be FAT! (IMO)

In Japan they do the same thing with the SuperGT series, which are very popular there too...

Tim, I quoted your post on my site + used the images, of course with added source, hope you don't mind.

wcrotty
2006.12.29, 10:37 AM
well i know what my next car is.

RCPMini-z
2006.12.29, 12:23 PM
Great to finally see these promoted. We designed the RCP Large Radius Outside Oval track specifically for this new Kyosho release. The current kits are set up for two tile wide lanes, but can be expanded to 3 or 4 tiles wide if needed. We are planning to incorporate some of these new turns into the North American Kyosho Cup this January.

Tim Johnson
2006.12.29, 01:24 PM
tim, thank you very much for sharing the news :)

the first questions is rather obvious, will there be unpainted bodies? when can we expect these to be on shelves?
Ok guys, lost of questions...... :)

It may be 6 months to a year before we will see autoscales or unpainted bodies. NASCAR takes a lot of time to get approvals.

Are they going to be the Mini-Z 1:27-1:28 or... the F1 1:24?
These are 1:27th just like the rest of the Mini-Z line :)



Tim, I quoted your post on my site + used the images, of course with added source, hope you don't mind.

Sounds great, but please whatever you do, don't add a water mark to the images(Kyosho could get in trouble with NASCAR), and Host the image on your web server, please do not hot link the image on your website. :)

HaCo
2006.12.29, 02:01 PM
Sounds great, but please whatever you do, don't add a water mark to the images(Kyosho could get in trouble with NASCAR), and Host the image on your web server, please do not hot link the image on your website. :)

Ok, removed the original images from my newspost. What do you mean with watermarking?

Tim Johnson
2006.12.29, 02:06 PM
Ok, removed the original images from my newspost. What do you mean with watermarking?

Sometimes website put there own website name in the image, to prvent others from taking and using it. You can have the image on your website, but please host the image on your web server :)

Thank you for helping spread the word to the Mini-z community :)

wcrotty
2006.12.29, 05:00 PM
Will the cars have the ceaper board like the I cars do?

arch2b
2006.12.29, 05:04 PM
Will the cars have the ceaper board like the I cars do?
yes, as part of the announcement, they will be sold on the i-series cars, mr-015 to be specific.

arch2b
2006.12.29, 05:13 PM
here is a bit more information from k.usa website

The Mini-Z NASCAR Series is based on the MR-015 MM chassis with the iSeries electronics.

SKU: 30792-99B
Street Price (Approx.): $99.99
Available: Late Feb '07

Technical Data
Chassis MR015MMi
Length 189.0mm
Width 73.4mm
Track(F/R) 68.6
Tyre Size 24.5mm x 10mm
Wheelbase 102mm
Gear Ratio 7.3:1
Battery(notincl.) AAA-Size x 4
Controller (incl.) KT-5i

arch2b
2006.12.29, 06:00 PM
not to answer my own question, but after looking at the wheels more, could they just be a new 'classic' tire and wheel combo? if so, will we finally get choices in tire degree for the 'classic' line?

chuckyluv
2006.12.29, 07:11 PM
hopefully the following cars will come from similar race teams per the licensing.. most are 2 or 3 car operations thus we could see all of rcr or roush or hendrick etc. in similar releases or random just by who signs on with the big K.

Hammer
2006.12.29, 10:05 PM
Very, very, very cool! Maybe this is what Mini-Z was referring to in this thread from about a year ago, only the chassis is now the MR-015i. ;)

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18350&highlight=nascar

Tim Johnson
2006.12.29, 11:42 PM
Very, very, very cool! Maybe this is what Mini-Z was referring to in this thread from about a year ago, only the chassis is now the MR-015i. ;)



That had nothing to do with Kyosho.

arch2b
2006.12.29, 11:47 PM
tim, this may be an unusual question but how is this going over at kyosho? are there employee's lined up waiting for these to run down the hallways? since you guys work at kyosh usa, what do you guys play with? what are you guys looking forward to seeing?

Tim Johnson
2006.12.30, 12:02 AM
tim, this may be an unusual question but how is this going over at kyosho? are there employee's lined up waiting for these to run down the hallways? since you guys work at kyosh usa, what do you guys play with? what are you guys looking forward to seeing?

LOL......The last time I tried to run a mini-z monster down the hallway, I had a finger waved at me....LOL...Just because you work for a toy company does not mean it is all fun and games...LOL

I have a 25 x 18 space with a RCP Mini-z track set up in the back room. We (kyosho A) have had a few company parties running Mini-z races. Myself I try to get back there before or after work, sometimes during lunch, and get a few laps in. the last 8 months or so, I have not had much time to play, so this does not happened to often now.

Myself, I enjoy the Mini-z line and flying Kyosho Airplanes. My latest projects is a jumping king Mad Force, and an Inferno ST with a two speed trans. Also a Calmato Sports. Sadly the Calmato Sports has been sitting for a long time...

Our customer service guys enjoy Kyosho Helis, and Kyosho Infernos. The VP races the Kyosho Evolva. Our marketing director enjoys racing the Kyosho Inferno ST-R. Our Sales staff, fly kyosho planes (other than me), enjoys our TF-5 on road sedan, and Lazer ZX-5 buggy.

Our Warehouse guys, One does not play with R/C's at all. The others enjoy the GIGA Crusher, and FW-05T's.


I could go on, but it may not be good for this thread...LOL

arch2b
2006.12.30, 12:24 AM
sorry, did not mean to go off topic. i guess i could ask the question in a new thread :)

Tim Johnson
2006.12.30, 12:59 AM
sorry, did not mean to go off topic. i guess i could ask the question in a new thread :)

LOL...No prob.

dean
2006.12.31, 01:55 AM
Chasing down the lead car in an oval race to me has more action and position changes than 1/10th scale. Lots-o-fun ( Judging from oval racing CupCars)
I'm looking forward to this release! :D

Draconious
2006.12.31, 01:58 AM
So are they going to make a special editioin TinyRC/Mini-ZRacer.com themed nascar body? ;)

wcrotty
2006.12.31, 11:43 AM
Tim,

I don't see how NASCAR would care about unpainted bodys. There are no stickers or anything that would say nascar.

They don't have trademarks on the shape of a car.

Ninja
2006.12.31, 11:47 AM
They don't have trademarks on the shape of a car.
actually, they do. or rather Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge do.

Tim Johnson
2006.12.31, 01:12 PM
Tim,


They don't have trademarks on the shape of a car.

GM, Chrysler and Ford still have to approve the bodies, each seperate team must approve, then NASCAR needs to approve. Like i said it takes awhile....LOL

arch2b
2006.12.31, 01:27 PM
thats alot of hurdles to jump thru

imxlr8ed
2006.12.31, 10:36 PM
Ahhh... that's right, they're "stock" cars... designed by Nascar... and for Nascar ! ;)

Guess I just long for the old days when you could buy a car out of the showroom and go out racing it in a series. (wait a minute... that was way before my time ! :D )

I'm pretty psyched about these, just hoping they bring more members !

As long as the steering ain't too twitchy, and the throttle is smooth on these I-series boards... I think Xmods gave 1/28th a bad name and that name is "toy". It sounds like it won't happen with these.

arch2b
2006.12.31, 11:50 PM
yes, i agree in the sense that the current nascar 'car' is nothing more than a generic shell devoid of any real individuality. the've managed to boil it down to the same generic features and lines where the only real distinguishing features anymore are bumper trim and graphics.

HammerZ
2007.01.01, 01:28 AM
If there is the possability of doing vintage nascars, it would bring in more interest. I am waiting for the Dodge myself, as I lean toward the Petty's.

benmlee
2007.01.01, 05:02 PM
I can see the NASCAR with potential to bring large number of people to mini-z. It could be a club fund raising activity to rent a kiosk at a shopping center to set up a NASCAR track maybe with banking curves. Minimum investment required. Charge maybe $5 per race with some practice time. Sell the cars on the side. The winner might get excited enough to get one themselves. From talking to track owner, I think an important point is to make sure track is wide enough so a person off the street with reasonable skill can manuver around the track without crashing. Nothing turns off a potential new commer more than being frustrated at not making it around the track. Some of those narrow serpentine track is almost impossible for a beginner to make it thru in less than half an hour ;) But it can't get easier than a banked wide oval track. In area where NASCAR is popular this might just make some good profit and bring people to mini-z.

TheRinger
2007.01.01, 07:58 PM
Now you know they have to make white body sets for these... I think it would be a bad call if they didn't do that right away !

Another weapon to recruit newbies... I just hope they will like turning more than one direction ! (oval sucks :p ... there, I said it ! ... unless it's on dirt, then it's a whole new sport ! :cool: )

Still waiting for my mainstream late 60s, early 70s Muscle car lineup ! :rolleyes:

Couldn't agree with U more imxlr8ed. :D

TheRinger
2007.01.01, 08:16 PM
As long as this gets people into mini z's and makes them more popular, thats cool. I hate to see mini z's fade away. And hopefully it will get hobby shops to start carrying mini z's again.

Breeze
2007.01.02, 04:28 PM
I've been waiting for these a real long time, Finally!!

FrankW1029
2007.01.05, 01:04 AM
finally a car body that I won't care about crashing into things. not a fan of the left turn only race tho.

I want a Ricky Bobby Wonder Bread car !!! :D

Tim Johnson
2007.01.09, 04:10 PM
finally a car body that I won't care about crashing into things. not a fan of the left turn only race tho.

I want a Ricky Bobby Wonder Bread car !!! :D

LOL now thats funny.

hobbycar
2007.01.12, 04:41 PM
FYI, the Shop here will soon have a pre-order setup for the NASCAR Mini-Zs and there should be a ton of them coming in as soon as they are released.

Stay Tuned.

-hobbycar

Draconious
2007.01.12, 04:54 PM
Mini-Z Viagra Car? LoL...

I wont buy one until I know for sure what the PCB is.. and how it compares to the other one... it was stated it was a cheaper PCB, and not just the same PCB with out brake, I want to know HOW much cheaper ;) if its Xmod or I waver level I will pass...

arch2b
2007.01.12, 05:06 PM
that is a good point, the mini-z fan will not take to an iwaver quality pcb very well where as the john q public will not know any better.

the pcb looks very different, or i should say, easy to spot the differences.

FrankW1029
2007.01.12, 08:25 PM
Mini-Z Viagra Car? LoL...

I wont buy one until I know for sure what the PCB is.. and how it compares to the other one... it was stated it was a cheaper PCB, and not just the same PCB with out brake, I want to know HOW much cheaper ;) if its Xmod or I waver level I will pass...

here are couple pictures of the i-series PCB I found on Taiwanese enthusiast blog page.

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7647/3381/1600/677496/DSC_0391.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7647/3381/1600/463337/DSC_0390.jpg

arch2b
2007.01.12, 08:39 PM
here are couple pictures of the i-series PCB I found on Taiwanese enthusiast blog page.

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7647/3381/1600/677496/DSC_0391.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7647/3381/1600/463337/DSC_0390.jpg
i attached the images

imxlr8ed
2007.01.12, 10:18 PM
Yep... that looks very Iwaver-ish. Hope the steering isn't the same as it is with the older Iwavers. But then again... it is going to be in a Kyosho chassis, might make up for it ?

At least the wiring looks beefier than what used to be on the Iwavers.

Tim Johnson
2007.01.13, 01:39 AM
LOL...........

The I-Series board is the same quality, it just lacks breaks. Everything else is what you would expect out of a mini-z, just no breaks. Who needs breaks in oval?....LOL at least large ovals anyway....LOL

Ninja
2007.01.13, 03:15 AM
there is also no steering FETs, :rolleyes: Strange! but could you imagine how easy it would be to do a FET stack on that thing?

Tim Johnson
2007.01.13, 12:14 PM
there is also no steering FETs, :rolleyes: Strange! but could you imagine how easy it would be to do a FET stack on that thing?

If i remember correctly, there is one large fet for the steering.

locwan
2007.01.13, 01:16 PM
If i remember correctly, there is one large fet for the steering.

Right, but that would be an IC, instead of fets. I'm just worried about the resolution of the steering by the use of an IC. (Of which the current iwaver/FL also uses in place of fets, which have terrible steering resolution) But I can't wait to find out about it.

wcrotty
2007.01.13, 07:53 PM
What are the fets on the I board?

Does anyone know the rating?

bda52
2007.01.25, 12:36 AM
Did I miss it in the thread somewhere, has a release date been listed for the cars?

Tim Johnson
2007.01.25, 11:27 AM
Did I miss it in the thread somewhere, has a release date been listed for the cars?

You may have. It is in the first post. I added starts to it...lol

End of February is the release date.

DrDreamsSoul
2007.01.30, 01:47 PM
being imma noob to all this and will be purchasing my first Z here soon, i do like the nascar Z but lack the knowledge base to judge wether its a good place to start as in: will there be probs with the current configuration of the pcb compared to the awd and others, would the nascar body configuration easily transfer over to a 015 cause when they come out with bodies could easily put one on, ive read the posts about peoples concerns with the similiarties with I wavier (never owned one) but it seems the quality is lacking. a few of my buddies have the awd's and there kick ass and the one has built a really nice 20'x10' track with wide lanes so i plan on racing recreational and eventually hobby shop racing, so any help would be greatful and being i like nascar, dirt late models is my passion nascar came from dirt racing so since i dont have the funds to build a 1/10th dirt late model i figured the nascar mini z would be a nice start.

even though the release date is schedule somewhere around the end of feb, watch the Daytona Race id almost bet someone is going to show these or say something about them, one thing nascar is great at is Marketing and Nascar and Kyosho are going to make a Killing on these, just think of this: u buy a nascar mini z then u get an AutoScale Dale Earnhardt #3 chevy being a betting man these will be all over Ebay in no time and they will fly off the shelf just like the hotwheels and collectors models still do and kyosho must have been in talks with nascar about this for atleast a year, with the rules regulations and stipulations that nascar has, the automakers, drivers, drivers pr people, that is one headache i wouldnt want to deal with for sure. JMO

Tim Johnson
2007.01.30, 04:01 PM
Rest asured that the Mini-Z I-Series is the same exact chassis as the standard Mini-Z. This goes for both MR02 and MR015. Only difference is the PCB. All of this concern about the I-Series should lay to rest once you try one. The whole point of the I-Series is to get the younger croud into Mini racing.

arch2b
2007.01.30, 04:07 PM
Rest asured that the Mini-Z I-Series is the same exact chassis as the standard Mini-Z. This goes for both MR02 and MR015. Only difference is the PCB. All of this concern about the I-Series should lay to rest once you try one. The whole point of the I-Series is to get the younger croud into Mini racing.
i applaud the effort kyosho has made on this front.

HaCo
2007.01.31, 11:01 AM
Exactly arch2b, this was a great idea of kyosho and I hope it will work out.

popdada
2007.01.31, 12:19 PM
Harrumph! Harrumph!

marc
2007.01.31, 09:32 PM
I think At@mic M@ds has two of these NASCAR's for sale. Either they have theme, or it's a pre-order deal.

arch2b
2007.01.31, 09:33 PM
read the info. they are not available to late feb. kyohso said this in thier announcement.

marc
2007.01.31, 09:34 PM
Must be pre-orders then, my mistake.

FrankW1029
2007.02.08, 06:48 PM
saw Japanese news that the Nascar series will be limited 1000 unit release in Japan as MR015 3010 FET ready-set. Are the US only getting the 015-i for the Nascar series or we will see the regular 015 as well and more importantly the autoscale?

jjlove
2007.02.17, 05:52 PM
I think that it is a big mistake to make these kits with out brakes. Nascar runs road coarses along with ovals...and I would like to see a Nascar driver drive a oval with out any brakes. I would rather pay full Mini-z kit price and have the same PCB as a standard MR-015 or MR-02.

I will wait my self until a body set is out and then just put it on a MR-015.

Phil Burr
2007.02.18, 01:48 PM
I may have missed this but when are the Red Bull Camary's comin out? :D :cool:


Phil

TheRinger
2007.02.18, 02:42 PM
I may have missed this but when are the Red Bull Camary's comin out? :D :cool:


Phil
I would also like to know.

hobbycar
2007.02.19, 09:57 AM
NASCAR Pre-Order is up on the Shop. Check it out (apparently there is a discount for doing the pre-order. Discount shown after adding to Cart).

I already got my pre-order in. Get 'em while they are hot (and discounted).

Kyosho Mini-Z NASCAR Carl Edwards '05 Office Depot #99 Ford Taurus MR-015 MM i-Series ReadySet (http://shop.tinyrc.com/product.php?productid=18468&cat=0&page=1)

Kyosho Mini-Z NASCAR Kevin Harvick '06 Goodwrench #29 Chevrolet Monte Carlo MR-015 MM i-Series ReadySet (http://shop.tinyrc.com/product.php?productid=18467&cat=0&page=1)

-hobbycar

glenbo
2007.02.27, 07:26 PM
No word from AB on a release of a bud car. Words are tight thru the dei network and good luck at racing at the tracks.
I went thru the channels with rcp to use a prototype oval at a event.
A small area is at least 500 a day in the tracks i talked to and that was a basic setup.
vip areas don't charge for the games and such and the rc cars thay run get really beat up.
Off track areas are a premium for parking and not one account wanted to give up cash for a spectator event.
The idea was kicked around by the pr section of the tracks i deal with but money talks.
Best thing to do would be to get the closest hobby shop near a track to do a event, and have plenty of parts and cars as spares

DrDreamsSoul
2007.03.02, 10:21 AM
im sure nascar isnt going to just let these go unnoticed, im sure they will be at the races being showed off, remember nascar has money in these along with kyosho and im sure nascar has sometype of aggreement were they get some money from this thats nascar its how they fund all these races so sooner or later we will see them at the races and advertised on tv or nascar websites. and i plan on placing and order for one at my lhs here soon.

DrDreamsSoul
2007.03.02, 10:29 AM
was curious to see if there was any info on the nascar website and theres notta tried many different searches and nothing came up so i dont even think the general public even knows the existence of mini z nascar, besides the people and friends of ones who r into mini z's, which is suprising that nascar always pushes products that the nascar people would buy especially the ones that follow drivers. i wonder why nascar hasnt really pushed the effort to sell these to there followers being its a huge huge market? anyone gotta clue?

arch2b
2007.03.02, 10:37 AM
if you do a mini-z nascar google search, you will see it's on a couple nascar info/fan sites but nothing offical i think?

piper1944
2007.03.02, 02:23 PM
I just ordered mine,it should be here on monday via us prority mail.....piper

Breeze
2007.03.02, 03:44 PM
I think that it is a big mistake to make these kits with out brakes. Nascar runs road coarses along with ovals...and I would like to see a Nascar driver drive a oval with out any brakes. I would rather pay full Mini-z kit price and have the same PCB as a standard MR-015 or MR-02.

I will wait my self until a body set is out and then just put it on a MR-015.
Ive been racing competively for about 5 years and I never use brakes unless it is to avoid an accident, and then only rarely. I usually just drive around it. I like instant reverse like on the MR01 cars and no double pump. These cars slow down pretty quick when you let off the throttle anyway.

Tim Johnson
2007.03.02, 04:12 PM
Ive been racing competively for about 5 years and I never use brakes unless it is to avoid an accident, and then only rarely. I usually just drive around it. I like instant reverse like on the MR01 cars and no double pump. These cars slow down pretty quick when you let off the throttle anyway.


One nice thing about no breaks and only reverse, is you can get off the wall quicker....LOL

Ninja
2007.03.02, 04:14 PM
wonder how long it will be before we see a Kyosho sponsor on a Nascar?

FrankW1029
2007.03.02, 08:35 PM
just saw bunch of Nascars at Ultimate Hobby. didn't take a closer look, but looks pretty cool. can't wait for the autoscales.

dean
2007.03.03, 12:25 AM
Any digital radio can dial out most of the reverse to give a braking effect. :cool:

Tim Johnson
2007.03.03, 01:15 AM
just saw bunch of Nascars at Ultimate Hobby. didn't take a closer look, but looks pretty cool. can't wait for the autoscales.

you may be waiting for a long while. I don't see autoscales coming within the next few months.

briankstan
2007.03.03, 01:36 AM
you may be waiting for a long while. I don't see autoscales coming within the next few months.

I guess that Kyosho wants everyone to buy a new chassis along with the body... ;)

bda52
2007.03.03, 03:42 AM
Are any other drivers planned in the upcoming months?

Tim Johnson
2007.03.03, 10:44 AM
Are any other drivers planned in the upcoming months?

Yes, but it will depend on NASCAR and the teams to approve them.

Tim Johnson
2007.03.03, 10:45 AM
I guess that Kyosho wants everyone to buy a new chassis along with the body... ;)

I am not really sure. All I know is it takes a while to get things done when dealing with teams and NASCAR. Everything you do has to be approved by them.

Draconious
2007.03.03, 01:07 PM
Well saw a snickers car on a commercial... guess I will wait for that body, since I eat snickers out the wazoo...

briankstan
2007.03.03, 03:40 PM
I'll be getting a RTR of each team. Should arrive early next week. :cool:

dean
2007.03.03, 07:00 PM
Same here, both to arrive next week. :cool:

HammerZ
2007.03.03, 09:09 PM
I am also in the two readyset club, I don't think sales is the issue. I just hope the other teams see the light and hop on board soon.

piper1944
2007.03.03, 11:32 PM
still waiting for mine on monday...i will take pics for you guys....

arch2b
2007.03.05, 08:06 PM
tim,
when will we get the chassis kits? i saw these on ebay.
Kyosho No.30402-99X

NASCAR Carl Edwards
'05 Office Depot #99 Taurus

Mini-Z MR-015MM whithout TX
comes with Mini-Z Racer MR-015MM pre-built chassis , Painted Body
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Transmitter (Radio Controller) is not included in this item

The following are required for operation:
Transmitter for Mini Z Racer (Mini Z transmitter or other transmitter compatible with Mini Z Racer), Crystal set for Mini Z Racer, AAA -size batteries x4, AA-size batteries x8

jjlove
2007.03.05, 08:22 PM
Ive been racing competively for about 5 years and I never use brakes unless it is to avoid an accident, and then only rarely. I usually just drive around it. I like instant reverse like on the MR01 cars and no double pump. These cars slow down pretty quick when you let off the throttle anyway.

On an oval it might be fine with out brakes, but at the track that I race we some times have a 180 deg. hairpin turn. If someone races slow enough to not use brakes on that setup...I will pass them and win.

On RCP it might be fine but we run on an epoxy resin surface that does not scrub off much speed when you let off.

FrankW1029
2007.03.05, 08:35 PM
tim,
when will we get the chassis kits? i saw these on ebay.

those might be the limited release version for Japan only.

chuckyluv
2007.03.05, 08:36 PM
Kyosho...(tim you cant take on this alone ) i was wondering how the 29 harvick goodwrench car was released and they dont run that paint scheme this year as of the now...special races excluded... if its timing/release deal... nextel fans may understand but seing how long the final release date versus when this product idea started... i am curious if the shell car will come out....along with other teams that could be in the works????

Hammer
2007.03.05, 08:51 PM
i was wondering how the 29 harvick goodwrench car was released and they dont run that paint scheme this year as of the now...special races excluded... It was released as the "2006 GM Goodwrench #29", many times the teams change paint schemes from year to year. The 2007 season brings new looks. :)

FrankW1029
2007.03.05, 08:55 PM
It was released as the "2006 GM Goodwrench #29", many times the teams change paint schemes from year to year. The 2007 season brings new looks. :)

even simpler answer: kyosho lags. i.e. 2005 F1s in 2006, 2005 season JGTC cars in 2006, 2004 season JGTC cars in 2005, and so on.

Hammer
2007.03.05, 09:11 PM
That's because Kyosho has to go through the licensing process with all those racing teams, which takes time, lawyers contracts and all. By the time production rolls out they're a year behind.

chuckyluv
2007.03.05, 09:58 PM
Thanx Hammer!!!! you stated it correctly!! ... that gave Kyosho no chance of being caught up in the silly season and changes in the Nascar world. the timing of the release and the begining of the season was my angle... If we get more cars this race season they could come as either 06 cars or 07...who knows!!?

bda52
2007.03.05, 10:35 PM
Then how do the die cast models get released in new colors/sponsors before the new season starts? In the NASCAR store (and other NASCAR related websites) most major teams had the new cars listed before the Bud Shootout. What ever channels Action goes through Kyosho should be able to go through also.

Tim Johnson
2007.03.05, 10:38 PM
Then how do the die cast models get released in new colors/sponsors before the new season starts? In the NASCAR store (and other NASCAR related websites) most major teams had the new cars listed before the Bud Shootout. What ever channels Action goes through Kyosho should be able to go through also.

Action has priority over everyone. They can get there hands on new paint and body styles quicker than everyone.

DrDreamsSoul
2007.03.06, 08:53 AM
u also have to remember they have had communications established with nascar for how long now, and kyosho will have that in time depending how well these sell, and dont think for one minute if these dont sell that nascar wont pull out there all about the all mighty dollar and reaching the public and if its not worth the investment they wont think twice about pulling out.

arch2b
2007.03.06, 09:26 AM
u also have to remember they have had communications established with nascar for how long now, and kyosho will have that in time depending how well these sell, and dont think for one minute if these dont sell that nascar wont pull out there all about the all mighty dollar and reaching the public and if its not worth the investment they wont think twice about pulling out.
this will all be on both nascar and mostly kyosho sholders though regarding advertising and product availability. rs atleast did the advertising right with xmods as just about every kid knew about them.

kyosho usa really needs to step it up a notch with mini-z's in general. i don't see any more advertising now than there was with gp unfortunately. the plus side is that k.usa has a much better working relationship with retailers now which should go along way in getting more of their products into shops. you will see the inevitable online listings for outrageous prices on hyped up claims of 'rare' and 'limited edition' descriptions as were common in the early days of mini-z's and especially so with a nascar affliated product.
i will be the first to issue a warning then.... please read listings for these carefully. if you know anyone interested in them please send them to knowledgable rc shop like this one for example vs. retail carts in a mall that will likely have enormous mark-ups and possibly nascar fan shops banking on unfamiliarity with the kyohso brand. you may see rc shops doing this as well but less likely given the audience. an educated consumer is the best consumer. don't let friends pay jacked up prices because they don't know better;)

sorry for the digression from the topic but the sucess of these depends on how well they are marketed/sold as with anything else. it's a business afterall.

my biggest hope is that they simply draw more people into 1:28 scale racing, regardless of brand.

Spoon
2007.03.06, 09:45 AM
tim,
when will we get the chassis kits? i saw these on ebay.

The most interesting thing about this is that it does not seem to be an iSeries chassis. I could be wrong but it looks like a regular 015 chassis.

crazybenz
2007.03.06, 09:54 AM
I'm a casual NASCAR fan, and it seems like they change their cars scheme for certain races. I went to Michigan's race last year and Dale Jr. had a white Bud car, and I don't think he raced that one anywhere else. It does kinda suck that the #29 car looks different than the one he raced the first two races this year, but it's still Kevin Harvick. I think when the other drivers cars come out it will be very cool. If they do a Mark Martin car, it will probably be the Triple A Ford, and he moved to the Army Chevy this year. But like I said, it's still Martins car ya know what I mean... The idea of white NASCAR bodies would be so cool too. Make up your own team and get a club thing going.

Tim Johnson
2007.03.06, 11:18 AM
kyosho usa really needs to step it up a notch with mini-z's in general. i don't see any more advertising now than there was with gp unfortunately. .

Um.....When was the last time you opened up a magazine....LOL :(

arch2b
2007.03.06, 11:37 AM
:o i don't read many rc magazines, if any at all since they rarely have anything 1:28 realated. rs advertised everywhere though. they did not rely on rc specific crowd and outlets. there were even tv commercials. i don't mean to deride you or k.usa in general but if you consider how well rs sold the xmods brand, regardless of thier commitment to continue is which it looks like they are not, i have a hard time believing the mini-z is a hard sell given it's outstanding quality baring the price point debate.

just curious, will the licensed nascar shops be carrying these or do they go thru k.usa like everyoen else? if so i'm sure they will do plenty of advertising themselves.

Tim Johnson
2007.03.06, 11:49 AM
:o i don't read many rc magazines, if any at all since they rarely have anything 1:28 realated. rs advertised everywhere though. they did not rely on rc specific crowd and outlets. there were even tv commercials. i don't mean to deride you or k.usa in general but if you consider how well rs sold the xmods brand, regardless of thier commitment to continue is which it looks like they are not, i have a hard time believing the mini-z is a hard sell given it's outstanding quality baring the price point debate.

just curious, will the licensed nascar shops be carrying these or do they go thru k.usa like everyoen else? if so i'm sure they will do plenty of advertising themselves.


Kyosho is not a multi million dollar company like RS. RS can afford to do TV adds...............

DrDreamsSoul
2007.03.06, 12:04 PM
im in agreement with arch2b, for the reason of i belong to a few racing forums and im a avid racing fan from nascar all the way down to ur local asphalt and dirt track racing and i asked if anyone in the nascar community had heard about these yet and even posted the link straight to the k. usa site with two nascar sets, and those people i hate to say r very ignorant people the first line on there replys being its affiliated with nascar its going to be 10 times over priced and its probally poorly made, my next reply was well if ur in skeptic of them go to ur local hobby shop and check them out for urself, ill bet ull be quit shocked. waiting to see there replys. on another note ill be ordering me one soon.

arch2b
2007.03.06, 12:08 PM
understood :) know that we are doing our best at a grass roots level to promote mini-z's;)

as a study though, i think rs did an amazing job at marketing a brick. :rolleyes:

i just want to make sure you don't think i'm saying kyosho is doing nothing...

imxlr8ed
2007.03.06, 01:35 PM
I think the best message Kyosho could possibly promote with these cars is the fact that they can provide the best real racing experience of any scale out there. I think that if the RC public could actually see how serious these cars can be as an actual tool of competition, they would come in droves.

I think it's mostly up to us though... and it would seem we are getting there. If I just go by the types of questions that get asked on this site lately, it would seem more newbies are getting involved in the tuning aspects right away, instead of just "playing" with them for a while.

The Nascar is probably going to be the best tool for promotion of this scale... just over-joyed that it's not an Xmod version of a Nascar ! Kyosho has this scale market cornered for sure as far as competitive makes go... if they would even just concentrate only on the racing aspect of them, they couldn't lose. But there is so much more going for these cars too... we all know that.

arch2b
2007.03.07, 03:14 PM
tim,
what is k's viewpoint/stance on the revell 1/24 nascar licensed kits that are half the cost?

Tim Johnson
2007.03.07, 03:38 PM
tim,
what is k's viewpoint/stance on the revell 1/24 nascar licensed kits that are half the cost?

Hard to say at this point. Not to sound ****y or anything but other companies have tried to get a pice of the 27th scale market, and have not lasted very long.

jjlove
2007.03.07, 07:19 PM
tim,
what is k's viewpoint/stance on the revell 1/24 nascar licensed kits that are half the cost?

Do you really think that it is a fair comparison. To me it would be like going into a Lexus dealer and asking for the car at the same price of a Toyota.

Not that there is anything wrong with either, but not on the same playing field.

arch2b
2007.03.07, 07:30 PM
Do you really think that it is a fair comparison. To me it would be like going into a Lexus dealer and asking for the car at the same price of a Toyota.

Not that there is anything wrong with either, but not on the same playing field.
the issue could be the same as what happened with the xmods/mini-z. they are much cheaper and might be much easier to find in mega marts and the like vs. only hobby shops and specialty shops. just about every kid will tell you what an xmods is where as many have just never heard of a mini-z. i see the same potential problem with these revell kits. this is all dependant on them being available thru major chain store channels though.
they have the potential to simply steal some of kyosho's thunder so to speak is all.

jjlove
2007.03.07, 07:38 PM
Very true about the XMOD advertising...but my thinking is from a racing point of view. As soon as anyone brings a XMOD to the track they soon find out what a load it is compaired to the Mini-Z...

Sorry, I don't want to start that debate on this tread. Lets just keep with the Nascar stuff.

arch2b
2007.03.07, 07:54 PM
i'd love to see as many team cars as there are for jgtc for example :)

briankstan
2007.03.07, 08:01 PM
i'd love to see as many team cars as there are for jgtc for example :)

me too, only not all at once. I need time to keep the hobby funds inline with my wants. :eek:

arch2b
2007.03.08, 02:39 PM
tim, can you tell us what degree rating the oval high grip tires are? are these the alternate tires included in the readyset? i'm hoping they are the same as the awd stock wide tires as those are great tires.

arch2b
2007.03.08, 02:55 PM
tim,
can you tell us if there are any real differences in the i-series tx from teh normal kt-5/2? i assume either of these will work with an i-series car?

Tim Johnson
2007.03.08, 06:58 PM
BTW !!!Spamer!!!... :p

tim,
can you tell us if there are any real differences in the i-series tx from teh normal kt-5/2? i assume either of these will work with an i-series car?
I will have more info on the "Inside i-Series" thread here soon :)

tim, can you tell us what degree rating the oval high grip tires are? are these the alternate tires included in the readyset? i'm hoping they are the same as the awd stock wide tires as those are great tires.

The High Grip Tires are 20 and standards are 40.

If you use a yellow spring with this combo, you will have plenty of steering :)

arch2b
2007.03.09, 03:02 PM
tim,
please pass on my thanks to k.usa :) despite not being a nascar fan, i really think k did a great job with these readyset!

-the bodies are very nice and high quality.
-the extra set of high traction tires is a nice bonus i wish we always had and something i hope they consider for every readyset.
-even the stock tires are a nice improvement over the typical stock readyset/autoscale tires which were essentially good for nothing although recent sets seem to be softer as well?

piper1944
2007.03.09, 04:10 PM
tim,
please pass on my thanks to k.usa :) despite not being a nascar fan, i really think k did a great job with these readyset!

-the bodies are very nice and high quality.
-the extra set of high traction tires is a nice bonus i wish we always had and something i hope they consider for every readyset.
-even the stock tires are a nice improvement over the typical stock readyset/autoscale tires which were essentially good for nothing although recent sets seem to be softer as well?
GOT PICS?WE WANT THE PICS...

Tim Johnson
2007.03.09, 05:12 PM
check these out :)
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24374&page=1

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24496&page=1


http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r144/1Hammer/mznc1.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r144/1Hammer/mznc5.jpg

http://www.jrxs.com/kyosho/P3060068.jpg

Hammer
2007.03.09, 10:23 PM
I see the AutoScales have hit ebay, $62.00 + shipping, ouch! :eek:

bda52
2007.03.09, 11:18 PM
I see the AutoScales have hit ebay, $62.00 + shipping, ouch! :eek:

By the looks of both of the auctions, I believe that is for both the 29 and the 99 bodies, not just one body. I sent the seller a question to clarify it.

Tim Johnson
2007.03.09, 11:22 PM
I see the AutoScales have hit ebay, $62.00 + shipping, ouch! :eek:

WAAAAAAAHA!?!?

wow 61 dollars plus 23 dollars shipping :eek: ......

Hammer
2007.03.10, 12:12 AM
By the looks of both of the auctions, I believe that is for both the 29 and the 99 bodies, not just one body. I sent the seller a question to clarify it.Looking at the listing again, I think you're right, that would certainly make more sense. :)

bnwhtlw
2007.03.10, 02:42 AM
I see the AutoScales have hit ebay, $62.00 + shipping, ouch! :eek:

That is 62 dollars for both Autoscales, which really isnt that bad. The 23 is quite high..but that is par for the course for these japanese auctions.

bda52
2007.03.10, 03:38 PM
That is 62 dollars for both Autoscales, which really isnt that bad. The 23 is quite high..but that is par for the course for these japanese auctions.

Confirmed, it is for both bodies.

I have dealt with that seller before. His shipping is high compared to other sellers from Asia but he is a good seller.