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akaKillroy
2002.04.16, 04:14 PM
I have been working on my 12x24 track for about 4 weeks now. I started off with a storage room that was FULL of miscellaneous stuff, a majority of which got tossed. Bought me a roll of Ozite and proceeded to construct a track. I still have not come up with a formal layout. But one thing is for certain, the whole back wall will be baked 20 deg. Will post pictures soon for all those interested. I am still working on a good way to make the track dividers/barriers. The whole area is on concrete so I really do not have a good way of anchoring the dividers. I planed on using water pipe insulation cut in half and taped down, but considering I have spent a great deal of time and money in this project, I would like something a bit nicer. I found on one website a guy who made up some basic shapes so he could layout many different track layouts. Anyone here have any other suggestions? Again I will post pictures soon of my progress.

Joe
2002.04.17, 06:36 AM
Sounds cool, especially like the idea of a banked corner, adds a little more realistic racing surface that is not all 100% flat. Check this guys page out. http://members.chello.se/joan/ he tells you how to make the dividers too.

Joe

akaKillroy
2002.04.19, 11:29 PM
http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0745.JPG


Leeeean into it! http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0741.JPG

http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0738.JPG

http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0735.JPG

Nice little work area too (pits!): http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0715.JPG

Couldn't done it without my little buddy! This is Cory my Grandson

http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0730.JPG

mini-z
2002.04.20, 01:51 AM
Cool; glad to see it's a family project too, that's great!

FenDer BenDer
2002.04.20, 11:40 PM
That is a GREAT looking track, I find the best part of owning a Z is the time I get to spend with my family and friends racing and having fun !!, good to see more people turning ther love for RC into a family affair !!

HAVE FUN !!

akaKillroy
2002.04.22, 11:03 PM
Well I started laying out the track. I decided to use 2.5 Masonite strips for the barriers. Since I am on concrete I had to use blocks of wood and 2 3/4 Tapcon screws. It seems to be working well but I am not sure the lanes are wide enough. The hairpin curve at the end of the bank turn seems a bit sharp! What are your opinions?

Picture 1 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0805.JPG)

Picture 2 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0810.JPG)

Picture 3 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0812.JPG)

Picture 4 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/PICT0813.JPG)

akaKillroy
2002.04.22, 11:04 PM
I do not know what gives with these pictures, they are fine on my computer, but when I upload them to CHARTER.NET they screw up, seems like picture 4 is the worst.

Draconious
2002.04.22, 11:16 PM
Its likely your JPG format.. open and save crop etc, them in photo shop or paint shop.. and it should be ok... some cams use diff formats then standard so they can brag they hold more on the disk ;)

mini-z
2002.04.23, 08:15 PM
Wow, looks like it's going to be great!

FenDer BenDer
2002.04.23, 11:31 PM
Your track looks good !!, and I don't think a hairpin can be to sharp, it only adds to the challenge of the track, which in my humble opion keeps the enjoyment of the track longer, which is good thing..I am also in the process of re-surfacing my track I found some swwet ozite at 2 bucks a foot CAN which is a good price for good quality ozite..the biggest downfall I can see on your track is the fact it is on the floor, a raised track seems to work better maybe because it is closer to eye level, yet a floor track gives you total view of all corners..so I guess it is up to personal preference..

Have fun and race safe (hehe)

akaKillroy
2002.04.23, 11:59 PM
Well since I only have about 1 - 2 hours a night to spend working on my track, I do not get a lot done. I am thinking my walls are a bit too high. I can not see the car if its behind the far wall! Thye are all 2.5" high, maybe 1.5" is tall enough. You can say this! You will not jump the track!

More pictures though:

Pic1 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/IMAGE0001.jpg) Pic2 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/IMAGE0002.jpg) Pic3 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/IMAGE0003.jpg) Pic4 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/IMAGE0004.jpg) Pic5 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/IMAGE0005.jpg) Pic6 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/IMAGE0006.jpg) Pic7 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/IMAGE0007.jpg)
Pic8 (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track/IMAGE0008.jpg)

FenDer BenDer
2002.04.24, 11:28 PM
I made the wall on my track just under the mirrors on the mini z body and have yet to see a car flip over them..1" walls worked for me..give it a try !!

my 2 cents

Draconious
2002.04.25, 12:03 AM
Tracks looks realy good, Those supports screwinginto someting or just resting there?!

1" walls is what I plan to use.. if not 1.25" or so...

akaKillroy
2002.04.25, 07:47 PM
I am using blocks cut from 3/4 plywood, with a hole drilled through then I use a tapcon (concrete screw) to ancor to the floor. I have a hammer drill that makes short order of the job. If I need to take it up I just unscrew everything.

Well I think since I have not got too far putting them up I wll use your suggestions, and downsize the walls to 1.25" I can take them down easaly enough they are stapled, and cut them in half and make 1.25" walls, then I will not have to buy another sheet of masonite. Thanks guys!

PorscheGuy964
2002.04.26, 04:22 PM
Thats going to be a really nice track when you finish,
I really like how your track integrates a Micro-Wave Oven!!!!(shown in pic2) you can use the Micro-wave as a timer while it cooks your lunch. how many laps can you do before the food is done!


gezz that the best track idea yet!

Thats great...

akaKillroy
2002.05.04, 01:30 AM
Well I have it almost complete, all the walls are up. Now its time for cleanup and padding some of the more dangerous areas.


I have based this on a layout that Draconious created a while back. I had to modify it somewhat but it is basically the same.
track25x12f.jpg (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64//photogallery/My%20Track%202/track25x12f.jpg)

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mini-z
2002.05.04, 09:08 PM
Wow, looks fantastic! I noticed a few errors in the image files however, you might want to try re-uploading.

akaKillroy
2002.05.07, 03:32 PM
Sorry about the pictures, I am working on a solution. In the meantime here is a link to my LIVE webcam for the track. I will try to keep the lite on for you :-) not much going on lately, will maybe make a post when there is going to be activity. or a race!

The Cellar MINI-Z WebCam (http://webpages.charter.net/carls64/stream_ip.html)

mini-z
2002.05.07, 08:54 PM
Streaming video doesn't appear to be working - does it require a plug-in?

akaKillroy
2002.05.07, 09:46 PM
I had some trouble with the server, but its working now. Sorry.
Nope no plug in requered hosted off my server.
Carl

mini-z
2002.05.08, 12:29 AM
Cool, it's working now. Nice bounty for whoever finds out where you live first! ;) :D

akaKillroy
2002.05.09, 01:01 AM
Now I am working on a lap counter, waiting for my lasers to come in. I had one laser pointer/ink pen I took apart and will test with that. I found that IR Photo transistors will trip when exposed to a laser pointer/diode. Now I need to find out if its too sensitive and will trip the counter when the antenna passes through the beam. If it does its back to the drawing board.:(

rcfreak69
2002.05.23, 08:40 PM
anyone looking for a challenge ad a section of linolium to your track transfering from one surface to another is wicked hardthe more the better im talking cilinders

The Thunderer
2002.05.28, 06:00 AM
Man, that's really nice!!! I did a temporary track out of the "swimming noodles" you can buy at Wal-Mart. It didn't stay together very long (which makes the wife happy), but it was fun and I can redo it every so often.

Your track makes me envious! LOL. I wish I had a space that I could dedicate to this, though I'm sure it wouldn't turn out this good.

I'd appreciate seeing pics when its all done. Then I'd like to know where you live so that I can try it out!!!

ekek
2002.05.28, 07:58 PM
If your track is super high grip than your car will flip over. By super high grip i mean no drifting or spin outs. Now i have a track made from the underlay of carpet (its foamy stuff). My walls are 2 inches high and if i flip just right ill make it right over. It looks cool but is bad for racing. Just a little tip for any track builders. And another thing. My foam track has lots of traction but it isnt fun becuase of no drifting. I was testing out different surfaces and noticed that cardboard has perfect grip. It allows you to accelerate fully while keeping a pretty good handle and still allows these really awesome controlled drifts. You can buy very large 4feet x really long rolls of cardboard that are coreggated on one side and smooth on the other. This is just a track suggestion for any one really because you can lay the cardboard on top of the regular surface. And another thing:D , I had this idea where you have an "irrigation" system that mists water onto the track. I know these hoses that have really small holes in them and have one sealed end. When water runs through the hose it mists for watering the lawn slowly. I used a spray bottle on linolium before and the affects are really fun. :cool: :D :) ;) :p :cool:

akaKillroy
2002.05.28, 09:19 PM
The Ozite seems to be perfect for rubber tires, if you are not carefull you can spin out. Its cool to drift arround corners. The 25 degree bank, sure makes for some fast fun!

ekek
2002.06.03, 09:41 PM
whats Ozite it sounds like i would like to get my hands on some of that. And also your webcam never seems to be working:(

akaKillroy
2002.06.04, 12:51 AM
Go to any carpet store and ask for Ozite, they make it in several colors. Grey is the most popular it looks like real thick stiff felt.

Web cam is down right now I am upgrading the PC its running on and my laser lap counter. Will be back up in a few days.

I am also putting together my new web site to include pictures of my track. Check back soon. I will post a message to let everyone know when its back up.

mini-z
2002.06.04, 02:33 PM
Technically you should use RC Ozite, not regular, as it prevents static buildup which can zap your car. In practice, it's usually not an issue, but don't say I didn't warn you, maybe come up with some 1/28 scale ground strips!

ekek
2002.06.04, 06:51 PM
what exactly is a ground strip. Iam only fourteen and have no idea what it is. And what is "RC" ozite and where can you get it.

W-tone
2002.06.04, 07:05 PM
I think what mini-z is refering to is some conductive material that hangs from the car to discharge static electricity safely.
ESD (Electro Static Discharge) control is a big issue in the electronic industry, it usually SHOULD not be an issue on consumer products.
Zapping your antenna with 20 000 Volts of static electricity is however not a good idea :)
If this worries you, you could hang some thin wire from the chassis so it touches the ground, a lenght of chain is used on office chairs as el cheapo ESD control device.
You should also keep in mind what happens to the discharge lead during crashes and flips. Don't fry your ESC with it!

mini-z
2002.06.04, 07:05 PM
Sorry ekek, I was joking, a ground strip is that little strip of rubber you see dragging off of some people's 1:1 scale cars. "RC" Ozite is specially formulated Ozite that prevents your electronics from getting destroyed by built-up static electricity.

akaKillroy
2002.06.04, 09:34 PM
mini-z:

Nothing a can of static guard won't fix! :D

olive
2002.06.05, 05:15 PM
Hi,
i'm new w/ mini-z cars, and i'm also trying to build a track in my garage. The track have to be removable, but it's concrete, just like you.
In fact, i think the best way to build a track is to use garden hose, and to attach it on the ground, i tried last week to make small holes in the hose, and i drilled holes in the concrete 6mm of diameter (very small !), and 2cm depth. You just have to put a bolt to join the 2 pieces ! If you make enough holes in the concrete, you can then modify the track. It seems ok, and i have to finish that next W.

My problem : the concrete is very sleepy for my car ! I 'll try to karsher the ground to see if it's better, but may be someone have a better solution. A kind of paint , may be? pictures very soon if intersted.

Draconious
2002.06.05, 05:26 PM
Something tells me the value of these concrete floors, is worth a little more then a Mini-Z track ;) -- surely there are better ways then ruining the foundation of a garage or risking basement floor cracks...

mini-z
2002.06.05, 08:41 PM
My problem : the concrete is very sleepy for my car ! I 'll try to karsher the ground to see if it's better, but may be someone have a better solution. A kind of paint , may be? pictures very soon if intersted.

You can get rubberized paint as you suggest, and in the mean time, you can pour some Sprite or similar sugar-loaded beverage on the floor to gain some traction.

Draconious
2002.06.05, 09:06 PM
sugar on floor = neon sing saying "Ant Feast"

olive
2002.06.06, 04:19 PM
what is exactly a rubberized paint ? what is the regular usage of this paint, or what's the composition?

Regarding holes in my basement, i don't think it's very different from -for example- doing some holes in a wall for hanging a frame or something. holes are about 2 cm depth, and it seems that concrete is much deeper. Moreover, there's only very few holes. I imagine (it's not done completly yet) that 20 holes will be enough for a 20 m square track.
I'll post pictures as soon as my digital video is fixed.

akaKillroy
2002.06.06, 04:27 PM
I seriously doubt that drilling small holes in the floor is going to affect the strength of the floor or promote cracking. I have about 100+ holes in my basement for my track. I used those blue TAPCON concrete screws to mount small blocks of wood, and then fastened 1" high masonite track barriers to them. I will have my web site back up soon with pictures of the whole construction.