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HammerZ
2007.01.21, 10:39 PM
http://www.revell.com/News_Viewer.news1+M5b09cebbd6a.0.html

I am not sure how big these are. Just wanted to post up to see if anyone has more information on these things?

hobbycar
2007.01.22, 12:29 AM
Found link to a pic:
http://www.pictures.kdm-inc.com/events/ihobby06/iHobby06_RMX10.jpg

And found this info at
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/01/03/032879.html
Revell Monogram Ready for Winners Circle With Launch of RPMz(TM) Radio Controlled Vehicles

NASCAR Product Line Features Graphics by Sam Bass

NORTHBROOK, Ill., Jan. 3 -- Revell Monogram today announced the launch of RPMz(TM), the ultimate radio controlled (R/C) racing system that allows racers to customize, race, modify and race -- over and over again. By changing a variety of gears, motors, suspension parts, tires and operating characteristics with digital electronics, the user can modify the performance of the vehicle to suit individual racing needs.

Known for its creation of authentic model kits, the Revell brand delivers to the R/C market the same attention to detail and quality found in its plastic model kits. "RPMz is a strategic move to expand and diversify Revell's product and distribution base," said Mike Brezette, Revell marketing vice president. "The hobby-class R/C market is estimated at $600 million in retail dollars and we believe the Revell brand provides the credibility to bring hobby-class precision products to the mass and hobby retailers."

With an exclusive NASCAR license, Revell's RPMz Monte Carlo(TM) and Taurus graphics are designed by award-winning NASCAR designer and artist Sam Bass. "NASCAR fans will forget they are racing a miniature machine when controlling RPMz," said Sam Bass, NASCAR artist. "In designing the graphics for these cars, I created realistic paint schemes and details."

Revell's RPMz NASCAR vehicles will be available at mass retailers and hobby stores beginning March 2007. The suggested price for these authentic, customizable R/C vehicles will range from $69.99 to $79.99. RPMz will also be offered with unique custom graphics on a Mustang GT and the new Dodge Challenger beginning June 2007.

RPMz Racing System Features

-- Complete 1:24 scale chassis and body
-- Digital proportion steering and electronics
-- Hobby-class transmitter with acceleration and steering trim controls
-- Four frequency crystals
-- Additional high-speed motor, pinion and drive gears
-- Suspension system parts (additional springs and tie rods)
-- Two sets of tires (slicks and treads)

About Revell Monogram

Revell Monogram, a privately held company, has been leading the model kit building industry for more than 60 years with products that provide interactivity, authenticity and fun. Revell Monogram's product lines are consumer and hobby robotics, model kits including cars, trucks, ships and planes, R/C vehicles, and slot cars. Visit http://www.revell.com/ .

HammerZ
2007.01.22, 02:47 AM
I was thinking somewhat Xmods like, but from that pic the TX look's solid. I am now looking forward to a review on these now.

Fovea3d
2007.01.22, 03:09 AM
This TX is not new :D I have the same, it was bundled with my Auldey truck 2 years ago only mine has an Auldey sticker.
It is of good quality enough though, clearly better than Xmod TX. I can control my Z's with it and it can use Z crystals (27AM).
Auldey TX (http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/auldeyTX.jpg)
Auldey Truck (http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/auldeytruck.jpg)
I am not 100% sure that the electronic in it is the same than mine though.

arch2b
2007.01.22, 05:15 AM
i wonder if revell and kyosho have any connections?

this is very interesting in the sense that kyohso claimed to be exclusive to nascar as well. so right off, they are both lying... atleast they axclusive at thier respective scale since these are 1:24 and kyosho are 1:27

HammerZ
2007.01.22, 05:26 AM
Without actually seeing one, I am not sure but it may be those Auldey chassis under the body. Just with the Revell/Monogram name on it for release in the States (like Hobbico did for the BitcharG). I just want to see one before I make snap judgements about it. The only indication so far is those tie rods don't look like the 1/24 Auldey type. That's based on the pictures I seen over a year ago. May be a new design chassis.


Fact is R/M has had Nascar plastic model kits for years, so for them it's nothing new. The R/C cars are another story though. Maybe something to go along with there slot cars.

arch2b
2007.01.22, 07:25 AM
i have to give them credit, they do know how to advertise. google Revell's RPMz NASCAR and you the press release everywhere.

they will be priced lower than the kyosho models as well. these could put a big hurt on kyosho's plan to enter the market. even more so if the i-series cars don't pan out in terms of quality.

this will be a very interesting thing to follow

HammerZ
2007.01.22, 03:33 PM
The Kyosho cars are known for there quality, the I series electronics is the only thing new here. Kyosho mostly stick to well known hobby retailers. I do remember the old monster trucks like the Double Dare at one time offered in the Sears catalog. That was many years ago.

The RPMz, I have no idea what the real quality would be like. From the press release it look's like these will be in every department store.

In the end, we will see more and more tracks popping up in more places.

Now who will be the first to release the new Toyota team stock car?

arch2b
2007.01.22, 03:47 PM
we are getting setup for the same mini-z/xmods debacle though :( and i think it's no secret more xmods were bought domestically than mini-z's due to advertising, pricing, etc.

will they be comperable in size? it seems like the 1:24 will be large enough to want to seperate them in any racing from a mini-z.

HammerZ
2007.01.22, 05:15 PM
Even with the slightly larger size these things will still run on the same tracks. They seem to fit standard model car bodies as well. With those bodies durability is a large factor for R/C cars. I have read something about RPMz Compatable stickers on some model kits later on.

Not everyone has a LHS down the street like a department store. So that's a big influx in the marketplace. Let's see, should I order a Mini Z online maybe drive over an hour to an LHS, or just toss an RPMz into my cart at the local Wal Mart? I think the avarage buyer would pick the easy one.

One thing kept me from the Xmods debacle, the fact that my local RS was just there one week with Xmods and they didn't back them that well. I am sure other RS's may have been better.

imxlr8ed
2007.01.22, 05:43 PM
Any chance I can invest in RCP ? :o

Between these and the sure to be better MiniZ I-series... John's gonna be selling tiles like crazy. (perfect timing with the Wide turns kit ;) )

I just wanna set up a stand at a Nascar race... and watch the dollars float in !
Nascar fans are gonna be all over these like flies on... like white on rice.

The real question will be... how many are going to want to push the performance levels on these, and want to get involved with a club ?

briankstan
2007.03.06, 11:59 PM
One of these RPMz's poped up on ebay. from the pictures it looks like they also copies Kyosho's design. it' looks very similar to a MR-01 Chassis.

Here are the pics that were on the auction.

http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/1065/RPMz-1.jpg http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/1065/RPMz-2.jpg

http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/1065/RPMz-3.jpg http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/1065/RPMz-4.jpg

http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/1065/RPMz-5.jpg http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/1065/RPMz-6.jpg

Fovea3d
2007.03.07, 12:15 AM
Hey its a rebranded Auldey mini-z 1/24 chassis! This design must be as old as the MR01 is :rolleyes:
It is the same chassis as those semi trucks (http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/auldeytruck.jpg), I have one of them currently fitting a 1/24 Mustang Mach2 on it ;)
01 (http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/061212Projets/Stang01.jpg), 02 (http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/061212Projets/Stang02.jpg), 03 (http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/061212Projets/Stang03.jpg), 04 (http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/061212Projets/Stang04.jpg)
Not too bad chassis, it uses AAs in place of AAAs, rather basic and heavily MR01 inspired only bigger in size (1/24 vs 1/28). It does not have a servo saver, so welcome broken first pinion gears again :D By chance the mini-z first servo gear fits there... I don't know if the electronic is still the same on the RPMz but I was quite satisfied with my Auldey truck, no glitching and precise control, definately better than I-Wavers. The ESC is a little longer in size as one of a Mini-z, too bad :rolleyes:

Here is an old review (http://ikinari-rc.com/smallrc/auldey_miniz.html) made by Ikinari

sykdevil
2007.03.07, 10:37 AM
the walmart in my area has these for $59.99. These are the exact same ones as auldey, it even has the auldey logo on the back of the box. They are more like 1/20 ish scale, its like a big mini z. Thinking about picking one up, but I'm not a fan of nascar. If anybody wants one I could hook them up with one.

arch2b
2007.03.07, 10:42 AM
i wonder if kyosho will look into this? not sure there is any infraction here but the chassis design is a clear modified clone.

the issue i'm curious about is that the kyosho press release made the following claim:
NASCAR, the most popular racing series in the US, has teamed up with Kyosho to produce the only hobby-grade, officially licensed NASCAR RC cars available in the world.

i guess these don't count toward 'hobby grade'?

Fovea3d
2007.03.07, 11:33 AM
Hi Arch! By looking at the details of that chassis it reminds me of a rumour that the MR01 was developped by a third party company who sold the design to K. If this was the case, I would not be surprised if that Auldey chassis was developped by the same team. The architecture evoke a mini-z and many small components are the same, so are the servo gears, bushings, but all other parts are not interchangeable. The Auldey is very old, marketed somewhere back to 2000 when the mini-z was not a big thing so I doubt that it was designed as a clone like the I-waver purposly is.
The Auldey chassis is clearly the same grade as the MR01, but at slightly different scale. $59.99 for a readyset look fair to me ;)

bda52
2007.03.07, 12:55 PM
i wonder if kyosho will look into this? not sure there is any infraction here but the chassis design is a clear modified clone.

the issue i'm curious about is that the kyosho press release made the following claim:


i guess these don't count toward 'hobby grade'?

The one thing with Revell's RPMz is that the paint schemes are done by Sam Bass (http://www.sambass.com/). They are not painted up like the actual Cup team cars. They do have the NASCAR logo on their boxes so they must have been officially licensed by NASCAR. But then Revell has been working with NASCAR for at least 25 years now on the plastic model kits.

As far as the chassis design, if K did nothing when Audley first came out with their cars could they have waited too long to make take legal action against them?

arch2b
2007.03.07, 01:00 PM
thanks for the backstory fov. that certyainly sheds some light on why the 1/24 audley has been around and maybe why there hasn't been the fluster about cloning that iwaver had.

bda, fov's post sheds some light on the subject.

maybe we should formulate a question to ask tim? if these run nearly as good as the i-series car then we are back to the same problem of trying to convince people to pay twice the money for a very similar product as was the case with xmods/mini-z's. even though there are quality issues that seperate them in reality...

bda52
2007.03.07, 01:10 PM
maybe we should formulate a question to ask tim? if these run nearly as good as the i-series car then we are back to the same problem of trying to convince people to pay twice the money for a very similar product as was the case with xmods/mini-z's. even though there are quality issues that seperate them in reality...

Don't forget about the availability of each of these also. RPMz sitting on the shelf at WalMart will get more attention than Kyosho sitting on the shelf at the local hobby shop.

briankstan
2007.03.07, 01:18 PM
I'm personally under the impression that Kyosho doesn't produce the quantitiy of Mini-z's that would be required to market in a retail market chain like Walmart.

the availability of ASC's alone is barily enought to keep up with us. :(

it seems things are becoming very hard to find.

arch2b
2007.03.07, 01:30 PM
Don't forget about the availability of each of these also. RPMz sitting on the shelf at WalMart will get more attention than Kyosho sitting on the shelf at the local hobby shop.
and this goes back to my replies to tim about the apparent lack of wide spread advertising outside the rc specific world. we are going to run into the same debate wwe've had for a long time now with the xmods/mini-z and we all know there are tons more xmods floating around than mini-z's despite the quality difference. i'm sure kyosho knows this and it may be accepted? maybe they stick to the quality high ground and continue to advertise to a market already familiar with kyosho products vs. using the nascar as an outreach to widespread advertising?

bda52
2007.03.07, 01:46 PM
I totally agree with you both.

bnwhtlw
2007.03.07, 01:53 PM
the availability of ASC's alone is barily enought to keep up with us. :(

Well it is when you're buying 'em all up. ;)