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Tezcatlipoca
2007.08.13, 10:02 AM
I'm going to build one from scratch, because I want to use quality parts without having to pay for and replace cheaper parts. However, I don't want to go completely overboard... not everything needs to be top-notch. So, where should I focus my money on and where can I skimp?


Also, I'm interested in getting either a Mitsubishi Montero or Chevy Trailblazer cover... do these exist? I've only seen a Mitsubishi Pajero...

Roketmini
2007.08.13, 10:44 AM
Kyosho makes quality parts to begin with, so I don't really know why you'd want to make one from 100% aftermarket and replacment parts. If you have your heart set on building one from the ground up, look into oil shocks of some kind. The stock ones can bind after prolonged use. Alot of people like using aluminum shock mounts and gearboxes too.

Hope that helped.

marc
2007.08.13, 11:11 AM
I'd try and find all of GPM's alloy and go from there.

simpleskin
2007.08.13, 04:04 PM
Also, I'm interested in getting either a Mitsubishi Montero or Chevy Trailblazer cover... do these exist? I've only seen a Mitsubishi Pajero...[/QUOTE]

Only the two Pajero's that I know of. Go for the Land Cruiser!!!

Tezcatlipoca
2007.08.18, 11:14 AM
I'm going to Hong Kong tomorrow to buy Overland parts... I'll be stocking up on all alloy / aluminum / carbon fiber parts... plus, I've heard rumors of them having a carbon fiber chassis that is "unbreakable". We'll see.

aimfox
2007.09.03, 01:01 PM
Your smart. You should definitely start from scratch if you want a top modded overland. I simply suggest you to do this. I modded my whole AWD, and I found out that there's no point of myself to buy the AWD at the first time. I rather buy peices and a PCB from sites to build it.

Sky
2007.09.07, 02:36 PM
Only the two Pajero's that I know of. Go for the Land Cruiser!!!

Don't get the Land Cruiser, it overhangs on the front and the back way more than they Jero does, making it not the best offroad/trailing body.

Tezcatlipoca
2007.09.20, 11:15 AM
Okay, I kind of cheated. I bought an Overland, but I had the shop build it for me. I just saw how much more complicated it was than the MR-02 and didn't want to completely screw it up. But, here she is...

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/Tezcatlipoca_China/R0010056.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/Tezcatlipoca_China/R0010061.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/Tezcatlipoca_China/R0010055.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/Tezcatlipoca_China/R0010058.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/Tezcatlipoca_China/R0010073.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/Tezcatlipoca_China/R0010074.jpg

And next to my MR-02 Ford Mustang...

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/Tezcatlipoca_China/R0010078.jpg

So far, I think the wheels look kinda funny being that color, but I'll live. Also, it pulls pretty hard to the right, so I think something isn't set up correctly. I see that the parts all have to be loose to allow the shocks to work correctly, but it's still difficult to drive. I also think the front shock springs are too stiff... I may buy softer ones. It was kinda fun driving outside on the sidewalk though, potholes be damned!

Tezcatlipoca
2007.09.20, 11:29 AM
Oh, just curious...

Is my Overland that much slower than my MR-02 because it's so heavy with the extra metal, the gears are different (torque and such), or did I get jobbed on my motor?

It still goes significantly faster than I walk, probably about 8 mph if I had to guess, but I'm really just shooting from the hip there.

arch2b
2007.09.20, 12:06 PM
all that aluminum is very heavy and will slow down your overland/shorten runtimes.

i see several pieces that really are useless.
the front underguard for example. kyosho offers the stock plastic, matt silver or chrome replacements.
gpm, if that is what they are. shocks are worthless. the spring rate is way to stiff even with softer springs. you would be much better off with kyosho oil shocks.
there is no reason to have aluminum battery clips. the battereis never get that hot to where they would make a difference and all the do is add weight.
i hope you don't have the aluminum servo saver. that is an utter waste of aluminum. i have never had one work well and again, more weight.

none of the parts should be loose. all that does is add slop. also, get some thread lock so that the machine screws don't back out of the aluminum gearboxes and other metal to metal attachments.


i have lots of experience with aluminum covered overlands
http://www2.mini-zracer.com/albums/album92/IMG_0005_002.sized.jpg

Tezcatlipoca
2007.09.24, 05:16 AM
Thanks for the notes, arch2b. I'll get the oil shocks as soon as I can, but I'm not sure when / where that'll be. I'm going to have the guys at the local shop take the thing apart and put some washers on the screws to see if that tightens things up.

I couldn't even begin to guess what an "aluminum servo saver" is, but it probably is since whatever can be metal seems to be on this.

I'm actually not that worried about the top speed, as this is more for tooling around outside. I use my MR-02 for racing. That's why I like it being solid. Just wondering if I could speed it up with keeping it solid.

Is there an easy way to lower the front end a bit so that it's not higher than the rear?

HammerZ
2007.09.24, 07:07 AM
Is my Overland that much slower than my MR-02 because it's so heavy with the extra metal, the gears are different (torque and such), or did I get jobbed on my motor?

The Overlands are going to be slower than the racers. The gears are a big factor here, as it's made more for pulling than speed. The large diameter swampers on mine it can move quickly, but it is hard to turn without rolling it. Just the nature of the beast. I also ran it with racer size tires (with the rear case modded for ground clearance), now that was slow.

Tezcatlipoca
2007.09.24, 08:54 AM
Just out of curiosity... has anyone done dead-weight towing tests with their Overland?

Sky
2007.09.25, 09:05 AM
RCMotorsport made a custom pulling sled just like the real tractor pulls! That thing was uber-cool, I wonder if he still has it... :rolleyes:

http://www.mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12283&highlight=pulling+sled

Check it

EDIT: hmm....looks like the aol link to his pictures is nonexistant anymore...sad day, but it actually used a can of peas (8.5oz) as the pulling weight.

Tezcatlipoca
2007.09.29, 11:15 PM
Sadness fills my world!

There's been a terrible accident.

Last night, I was driving my truck around and at some point (pretty sure it was the gap at the threshold of the elevator that did it), the two bars that connect the top of the front pod to the main body were ripped apart. The screws were either broken in half or ripped out of their holes.

Oy.

I'll post pictures when I get home from work to see if you guys have any suggestions for fixing the thing...