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pchan0
2007.10.19, 04:42 PM
A 1/24th scale Serpent car shown at the Chicago Hobby Show. Hopefully pictures will follow soon.

Source: Link (http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=186888)

Roketmini
2007.10.19, 05:45 PM
I'll be at iHobby tomorrow, so I can get more pictures.

supafastsupra2
2007.10.19, 07:04 PM
finally, a major competitor to the mini-z. eagerly awaiting pics

Roketmini
2007.10.20, 04:02 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e100/Roketmini/IMG_0587.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e100/Roketmini/IMG_0588.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e100/Roketmini/IMG_0589.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e100/Roketmini/IMG_0591.jpg

Nice little bugger, carbon chassis, uses a Lexan body, 180 motors will fit. Really fast too.

pchan0
2007.10.20, 06:43 PM
Sweet! Thanks for the pictures.

What batteries does it use? Is it alot bigger than the Mini-Z MR-02? Release date?

Thanks!

Roketmini
2007.10.20, 07:03 PM
Li-Po flat packs like those sold at Am. or AAA's.

And I don't know exactly how big a MR-02 is, but it looks Z sized. The wheels/tires looked like they were smaller (but wider) than those on xmods.
I didn't get a release date.

wes
2007.10.20, 07:25 PM
It looks big... Hopefully it can run in the same class as the TGR Sinister and mr02s! :rolleyes:

HaCo
2007.10.21, 08:28 AM
What an ugly lexan body!!!

It's nice to see an 1/24th chassis, but it's a pitty it doesn't fit in our Z class!

arch2b
2007.10.21, 10:34 AM
It looks big... Hopefully it can run in the same class as the TGR Sinister and mr02s! :rolleyes:
not at 1/24 i would think. take the tagu 1/24 kit for example, it's noticeably bigger than a mini-z and i doubt anyone would include them in the same class.

the sinister is more 1/27 than 1/24 in my opinion as i've seen one. i believe the only scale class competition it has so far is the tagu kit.

Wolf
2007.10.22, 06:01 AM
At first, I was glad that a major competitor is entering into market. However, I think this is not a Serpent but the REWO. Maybe serpent will release this product as cover??

In every case competition level cars entering into market will push standart products. Also larger the community larger the pleasure that we'll get out of it.

Do you have any pics from Serpent stand?


Check the link below. Car is on the market for some time.
http://www.rc-car-exklusive.com/shop/50032094541356f01/500320946b11264ac/df028e956e11a5520/df028e95d50c93d79.html

engineer
2007.10.22, 08:52 PM
At first, I was glad that a major competitor is entering into market. However, I think this is not a Serpent but the REWO. Maybe serpent will release this product as cover??

In every case competition level cars entering into market will push standart products. Also larger the community larger the pleasure that we'll get out of it.

Do you have any pics from Serpent stand?


Check the link below. Car is on the market for some time.
http://www.rc-car-exklusive.com/shop/50032094541356f01/500320946b11264ac/df028e956e11a5520/df028e95d50c93d79.html

And This is prototype M242.....

minittrackmann
2007.10.22, 09:00 PM
And This is prototype M242.....

engineer is that your design? what scale is it? how much? give details please. i like it a lot

engineer
2007.10.22, 09:05 PM
engineer is that your design? what scale is it? how much? give details please. i like it a lot

Yes, it is my desing.
more info here: www.alsracing.net

Wolf
2007.10.23, 08:39 AM
Yes, it is my desing.
more info here: www.alsracing.net

Dear Engineer,

Don't get me wrong but what I mean by a major brand is like Serpent, Mugen etc. By the way, I also admire your new design. its a really good job.

Lets get back to topic; is it a really serpent car or not? Any new info from anyone?


PS: Infact a thread to discuss 1/24 vs 1/28 would be great.

piper1944
2007.10.23, 11:09 PM
yes.....nice of serpent....i may get one.....

kydawg1
2008.02.01, 07:58 AM
Is there any information when these will be sold in the USA? I emailed Serpent USA, they have no clue about the product.

Red Team
2008.02.05, 04:06 PM
Just found this on redrc.net:

Serpent have announced that they will release 3 new electric powered cars at this week Nuremberg toy fair, which Red RC will be covering live from the Show floor. To be shown at the fair is the new S500 4wd buggy, the S120 1/12th scale pan car and finally the S240 1/24th scale pan car. The Serpent booth will contain all the company’s usual products as well including the 08 versions of the 720 and 960 as well as the S400 and F180.

Serpent S240
Serpent’s new S240 is a 1/24th scale electric powered 2wd pan car chassis. Featuring a rear ball differential and centrally mounted shock absorber, the car is supplied with motor, clear LMP bodyshell and tires. High quality carbon fibre and orange anodised CNC machined aluminium used throughout.

Source: Serpent [serpent.com]

but on Serpent site, nothing yet :(

Maybe Wolf would send us some pictures and news from ToyFair in Germany! ;)

Red Team
2008.02.07, 02:57 AM
New info and pics on this from redrc.net:

http://www.redrc.net/2008/02/toy-fair-serpent-motorsport/#more-7733

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3461/serpents240sk5.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=serpents240sk5.jpg)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3777/serpents2402em4.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=serpents2402em4.jpg)

Red Team
2008.02.21, 04:55 AM
Few more pics from rc junkies I put on a slide show:

http://picasaweb.google.ro/minimicrorc/Serpent124/photo#s5169367990966706354

NOMOTORLIMIT
2008.02.21, 11:45 AM
It's pretty much the same as the ABC Hobby DTM SP.

akura2
2008.02.21, 06:40 PM
It's pretty much the same as the ABC Hobby DTM SP.

oh my.... you ARE alive!

Jimmy

Roketmini
2008.02.21, 07:43 PM
What an ugly lexan body!!!

It's nice to see an 1/24th chassis, but it's a pitty it doesn't fit in our Z class!

The drivers weren't very good and kept smacking into stuff.

ruf
2009.01.16, 02:34 PM
http://www.redrc.net/2009/01/serpent-s240-124th-scale-chassis/

color01
2009.01.16, 08:10 PM
Not a fan of the front pivoting pod instead of proper suspension... can't see it working well on bumpy American RCP. Then again, those are foams, maybe it won't need suspension. :rolleyes:

Is 1/24 pan raced more competitively in Europe? I'm afraid I don't understand the point of this car if it isn't...

Red Team
2009.01.19, 07:56 AM
With their 1/12 Pan Car being present at podiums at all major RC events, maybe they thought to try another niche and to make racers to migrate to this model instead of running Z or other models.
For instance, over here, these guys racing in 1/12 or 1/10 they never seems to be really interested in Z races, but because of our Serpent distributor, now I guess they will all show up to race these cars together with us ( which I think it will be not allowed )... will see.

piper1944
2009.02.09, 09:40 PM
when is it coming out?

Red Team
2009.02.13, 03:29 AM
I guess by the end of february....new info:

http://www.serpent.com/product/420001/description/
http://www.serpent.com/product/420001/specifications/
http://www.serpent.com/product/420001/images/

Might be a good option for our rentals...we need really strong and resistent cars :D...though I hope the price won't be so high ;)

color01
2009.02.13, 07:24 AM
I don't think it would be a bad idea to let the cars race with Mini-Z's at least for a few tries. They are a completely different type of design geared more for 1/18 tracks (7.2V LiPo? Foam tires? Yeah...) so racing them together would be interesting, to say the least.

I'm hoping that S240 sales will expose 1/28 to the mainstream RC car market. I'm betting that most of the people buying an S240 will know that it's design is extremely arcane, and at least some of them will come across the MRCG, P28, Mini-Z's, etc. I think that if the S240 makes at least a half-decent showing, our 1/28's will get a second look from the 1/18 micro racers. That's a source of attention I really want to tap into, given its potential for quickly making 1/24-28 a legitimate racing (or even ROAR, as Reflex Racing have been trying to do) class at mainstream RC events.

That thing about parts availability is an issue though... I wonder how daring Serpent will be about making a lot of these kits and parts for an unsure market in this crappy economy?

eztuner12
2009.03.16, 08:47 PM
The new Serpent S240 it’s available on the market. Contact your favorite Hobby shop and ask for it.
If any of you is interested in one, contact me through my e-mail with the price your hobby shop is offering it, perchance I can get it for better price as well as the Lipo batty:cool:.
Cheers

eztuner12
2009.03.18, 01:23 AM
This baby runs on brushed 180 motor, included in the kit.
Cheers;)

-J-
2009.03.26, 09:27 AM
Almost bought one at my LHS today. There's a decent following already for them here in Hong Kong. No motor is the package though?

herman
2009.03.26, 11:08 AM
Almost bought one at my LHS today. There's a decent following already for them here in Hong Kong. No motor is the package though?
is there any chance that you can post pics?? .... :D

mini-z
2009.03.27, 09:40 AM
The new Serpent S240 it’s available on the market. Contact your favorite Hobby shop and ask for it.

And since many of you rank shop.tinyrc.com as your favorite, we contacted Serpent about this when pics first surfaced, though we've not actually started stocking them yet - who wants one? :)

eztuner12
2009.03.30, 12:39 AM
Hi Gentlemen.
I would like to add, that this Serpent S240 1/24 scale does not need any up-grades parts; it is a Pro chassis direct from the box.
It will take any mini hobby type servo for the steering system plus any receiver, speed control or PCB electronic board that handles lipo cells. Also would like to remember about Serpents worldwide well known Dutch excellent & superb engineering, all @ quality, as well as, support on replacement parts, body shells and tire, with no doubt, a brand of excellence. All for an incredible price.
The lipo batteries for this model are supplied by Serpent too.
Contact your favorite hobby shop and ask for it. shop.tinyrc.com is the perfect place.
Cheers

yasuji
2009.03.30, 01:15 AM
Hi Gentlemen.
I would like to add, that this Serpent S240 1/24 scale does not need any up-grades parts; it is a Pro chassis direct from the box.
It will take any mini hobby type servo for the steering system plus any receiver, speed control or PCB electronic board that handles lipo cells. Also would like to remember about Serpents worldwide well known Dutch excellent & superb engineering, all @ quality, as well as, support on replacement parts, body shells and tire, with no doubt, a brand of excellence. All for an incredible price.
The lipo batteries for this model are supplied by Serpent too.
Contact your favorite hobby shop and ask for it. shop.tinyrc.com is the perfect place.
Cheers

too bad they didnt make it in a 1/28 scale version:p

eztuner12
2009.03.30, 02:23 AM
Well depends with the eye you look at it. Perhaps we will see them soon racing in sanctioned world class race events as the 1/12 electric pan . As serpent motto says “Stop playing, start racing” Micro car.
Serpent joined forces with experienced micro-racers ( Wolfgang and Rene Woran from Austria) and created the Serpent S240. A 1/24 scale 2wd pan-car. Simple, but proven and strong design. No complicated suspension designs or set-ups. ;)

http://www.rc-drift.de/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=4859

yasuji
2009.03.30, 03:19 AM
Well depends with the eye you look at it. Perhaps we will see them soon racing in sanctioned world class race events as the 1/12 electric pan . As serpent motto says “Stop playing, start racing” Micro car.
Serpent joined forces with experienced micro-racers ( Wolfgang and Rene Woran from Austria) and created the Serpent S240. A 1/24 scale 2wd pan-car. Simple, but proven and strong design. No complicated suspension designs or set-ups. ;)

http://www.rc-drift.de/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=4859

but who will the race....themselves:confused: ....thats not racing....lol...
i think they built a possibly good car....its just too bad that i dosent fit in 1/28th scale

eztuner12
2009.03.30, 04:00 AM
but who will the race....themselves:confused: ....thats not racing....lol...
i think they built a possibly good car....its just too bad that i dosent fit in 1/28th scale

It is a start as many others. Mini-z 1/28 is a scale of its self and race by themselves right, you don’t see any other mayor brand as Associated, Trinity, Tamiya Yokomo etc. racing 1/28 only Kyosho’s Mini-z. Serpent is a true racing leader and perhaps others will follow, as it has happened before on others scales and with other mayor brands. Perchance it will be a hit, only time can tell. That’s my thought.:)
Cheers

yasuji
2009.03.30, 04:16 AM
It is a start as many others. Mini-z 1/28 is a scale of its self and race by themselves right, you don’t see any other mayor brand as Associated, Trinity, Tamiya Yokomo etc. racing 1/28 only Kyosho’s Mini-z. Serpent is a true racing leader and perhaps others will follow, as it has happened before on others scales and with other mayor brands. Perchance it will be a hit, only time can tell. That’s my thought.:)
Cheers

kyosho makes a 1/28 scale chassis....so does mrcg, tgr, izane, vrc, and mp....just to name a few.....
we are all racing....
look at it this way....had they made it a 1/28scale chassis....they too could race it against a "KYOSHO" and it would be a hit;)...then maybe Associated, Trinity, Tamiya Yokomo etc.might think...hmmmmmm....maybe we should....
just imagine....SERPENT WINS PNRACING WORLD CUP.....OR SERPENT WINS 1/28TH SCALE NATIONALS....

EMU
2009.03.30, 05:09 AM
Kyosho went off scale with the Mini-Z... 1/24 was more popular, but Kyosho wanted to be unique. It was a hit, so other companies made chassis to race against the Kyosho... Tamiya had the Tamtech, Dynamite had the Rocket Racer, ABC Hobby had the DTM SP and X4, Xpress had the Mini-X... all are 1/24 scale. Following the slot car and model scale...

Kyosho is still present, while the others have faded away, due to the continuous updates in design of the chassis (MR01->MR02->MR015->MA010...), and primarily, the Autoscale bodies. Most of the 1/24 cars were lexan bodies, and lacked the realism that Kyosho had. Tamiya also had a hard body with the Tamtech, but I think that it was released too early, for a market that was not ready for it.

At the time of the release of the Mini-Z, I dont think that there were any other 1/28 scale RC cars... But the market was accepting of it, as a toy, and as a racer... as well as a collectors item.

One of the things that Serpent has going for it, is that it can be used on most existing Mini-Z tracks, although it is not in the same class as the Mini-Z, so they shouldnt be raced together.

I want to get one, but I have to see if there will be a spec class for them at any of the local tracks...

yasuji
2009.03.30, 05:22 AM
Kyosho went off scale with the Mini-Z... 1/24 was more popular, but Kyosho wanted to be unique. It was a hit, so other companies made chassis to race against the Kyosho... Tamiya had the Tamtech, Dynamite had the Rocket Racer, ABC Hobby had the DTM SP and X4, Xpress had the Mini-X... all are 1/24 scale. Following the slot car and model scale...

Kyosho is still present, while the others have faded away, due to the continuous updates in design of the chassis (MR01->MR02->MR015->MA010...), and primarily, the Autoscale bodies. Most of the 1/24 cars were lexan bodies, and lacked the realism that Kyosho had. Tamiya also had a hard body with the Tamtech, but I think that it was released too early, for a market that was not ready for it.

At the time of the release of the Mini-Z, I dont think that there were any other 1/28 scale RC cars... But the market was accepting of it, as a toy, and as a racer... as well as a collectors item.

One of the things that Serpent has going for it, is that it can be used on most existing Mini-Z tracks, although it is not in the same class as the Mini-Z, so they shouldnt be raced together.

I want to get one, but I have to see if there will be a spec class for them at any of the local tracks...

I see....i guess that goes too show how little ive been around rc.....but it still goes back to my point.....and this is just in my mind i guess....i am a serpent ceo....1/24th scale cars have fallen ....1/28th is growing....kyosho, pn, atm,ect is booming.....new chassis every where....i want a piece of the matket too....but i make a car in a scale that nolonger exists.....:confused:
racing is racing.....winning on sunday sells on monday....;)

EMU
2009.03.30, 05:50 AM
I wish this was 1/28th scale as well... It would be a one make class, basically spec class.

Just like the 1/18 Robotronic Scalpel pan car. There is nobody else in that class either. What Mini-Z had from the start, was variety. You could choose different bodies to race against eachother, and they all look real.

Serpent really should have done the market research, and seen how popular 1/28 is. And how many 1/24 cars have failed. I guess they wanted to do a car 1/2 the size of their 1/12 scale pan, as Kyosho did with the Inferno when they made the 1/16 scale version instead of making it 1/18 scale to compete with many of the existing 1/18 offroad buggies.

Grant, I havent been in the RC world very long, but I have done a lot of research, and bought a few of the 1/24 scale cars for fun (Tamtech, Dynamite Rocket Racer, ABC DTM X4).

eztuner12
2009.03.30, 09:18 PM
I too am surprised with this 1/24 size, but I am no R/C marketing or RC product positioning expert neither, in line to judge the experts.
I have to admit, that since Pieter sold the company to Michael and Ronald things have changed to a different direction, perhaps it always happens when new blood takes charge. Now the S240 is there and it is a good chassis for any RC enthusiast that appreciate all sizes RC, specially electric mini, particularly created & supported by a pioneering brand in the industry as Serpent, with so many winning championships under its belt, as well as, its well known collaboration to the RC cars world thru so many innovations, that today, other mayor RC branded manufactures are enjoin and using on their RC vehicles.
Again time will be the best judge to this creation.
Cheers;)

eztuner12
2009.03.30, 09:23 PM
Hey guys,
Any of you knows, if the Mini-zs 27 AM and 2.4G will handle lipo batteries and a 180 brushless motor???:confused:
Thx
Cheers

eztuner12
2009.03.31, 04:27 PM
Hey guys,
Any of you knows, if the Mini-zs 27 AM and 2.4G will handle lipo batteries and a 180 brushless motor???:confused:
Thx
Cheers

Correction:rolleyes:; I ment 27AM & 2,4Gz "ELECTRONIC BOARD" will handle lipo batteries and a 180 brushless motor?
Thxxx...

eztuner12
2009.03.31, 04:28 PM
Correction:rolleyes:; I ment 27AM & 2,4Gz "ELECTRONIC BOARD" will handle lipo batteries and a 180 brushless motor?
Thxxx...

Man this editindless is going to kill me:rolleyes:. Brushed motor not brushless!

AddictiveRC
2009.11.26, 04:34 AM
Man this editindless is going to kill me:rolleyes:. Brushed motor not brushless!

We may have the New Serpent S240's In stock end of this week.
I will post photos and a Short veveiw and later the Build.
Photos will be on the Addictiverc.ning.com site as well.
We are Happy to anounce We are Now a Serpent Dealer.
Cheers, John W.