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Nightcargo
2008.01.23, 08:42 AM
Anyone know when/if a 2.4 AFS module will be available for the Helios?

CristianTabush
2008.01.23, 11:13 AM
It might not be clear on the other threads, but most KO equipment is backwards compatible, so the new stuff should just pop into the Helios. They should be available at around the same time as the ARRs become available ;)

Nightcargo
2008.01.23, 11:32 AM
Thanks Cristian! I saw the new KO with a Helios AD module so figured it would work. Now I have to figure out what ARR is and when it will be out LOL!

Nightcargo
2008.01.23, 11:41 AM
Almost-Ready-to-Run? Which should be out in February right?

Thanks

hrdrvr
2008.01.23, 11:58 AM
Almost-Ready-to-Run? Which should be out in February right?

Thanks

Correfct on both accounts. I believe ARR refers to having everything but a Tx.

ruf
2008.01.23, 03:31 PM
Confirmed! The RF-901S 2.4GHz module and the RF-901SM 2.4GHz Mini-Z module will work with both the EX-1 UR and the EX-10 Helios! We are still trying to figure out the difference between the RF-901S and RF-901SM modules and whether they will be interchangeable or not. I'd like to be able to run non-Mini-Z with the KO 2.4GHz receiver with the same module as a 2.4GHz Mini-Z if possible. We'll see... :D

Relevant part numbers:
15502 - RF-901SM 2.4GHz SS RF Module for Mini-Z
80192 - EX-1 UR 2.4GHz (Tx/Module for Mini-Z)
80252 - EX-10 Helios 2.4GHz (Tx/Module for Mini-Z)

briankstan
2008.01.23, 04:08 PM
Confirmed! The RF-901S 2.4GHz module and the RF-901SM 2.4GHz Mini-Z module will work with both the EX-1 UR and the EX-10 Helios! We are still trying to figure out the difference between the RF-901S and RF-901SM modules and whether they will be interchangeable or not. I'd like to be able to run non-Mini-Z with the KO 2.4GHz receiver with the same module as a 2.4GHz Mini-Z if possible. We'll see... :D

Relevant part numbers:
15502 - RF-901SM 2.4GHz SS RF Module for Mini-Z
80192 - EX-1 UR 2.4GHz (Tx/Module for Mini-Z)
80252 - EX-10 Helios 2.4GHz (Tx/Module for Mini-Z)

any idea on release dates and Prices?

Hammer
2008.01.23, 04:25 PM
any idea on release dates and Prices?I second that! :D

ruf
2008.01.23, 04:54 PM
You guys aren't going to like release dates... May/June. :( Pricing is TBD, but I don't expect any surprises.

briankstan
2008.01.23, 04:59 PM
I guess I don't need to hurry and get the ARR just yet. I'm not going to buy a radio just to use it for a few months. :mad:

Hammer
2008.01.23, 05:16 PM
I'm in no hurry either, it's just good to hear that the (80252 - EX-10 Helios 2.4GHz - Tx/Module for Mini-Z) will be available in the next few months. :D

I've been using the EX-10 Helios for awhile and really, really like it. The ability to swap modules for different purposes with the same radio is very cool. ;)

ruf
2008.01.23, 06:20 PM
Yah, we're pushing KO to get visibility on whether the module will be available sooner. I expect that we will be using the Kyosho radios for a few months. They will be good to have around as loaners/backups. They may look goofy, but I'm kind of warming up to them.

wcrotty
2008.01.23, 08:37 PM
And no word on a M11 module release. They really needed to release them for all major radios. futaba airtronics and KO. They would sell more cars that way. I will wait until i can get an M11 module. I love my m11.

rharris
2008.01.24, 01:51 AM
And no word on a M11 module release. They really needed to release them for all major radios. futaba airtronics and KO. They would sell more cars that way. I will wait until i can get an M11 module. I love my m11.

I think you're in for a long wait. As I understand it, Ko manufactures the mini-z boards. I can't see Ko making a module for the competition. It would be smarter to corner the market.

TiTanZ
2008.01.24, 09:31 AM
Hi sorry but my english are not well im spanish. Hi Cristian i drive with you at lisbon. Como se que hablas espaņol si meto mucho la pata con el ingles traduceme.

I find any information about the Module in a blog of an employment of KO PROPO..... i mean.


http://www.typezteam.com/files/131174.jpg
http://www.typezteam.com/files/131171toppic.jpg
http://www.typezteam.com/files/131175toppic.jpg

And this is a traduccion by google from japan to english i understand that the module price is 8000 JPY about 52 € about 65 $ there is more prices of "packs".

http://www.typezteam.com/files/noticiashelios.JPG

soulstice
2008.01.24, 10:03 AM
Just saw, this thread. I'm surprised no one has bothered to check but the KO site has had pricing available for at least a week or more.

http://www.shopatron.com/product/part_number=15502/166.0.1053.56.0.0.0

KO PROPO RF-901SM 2.4GHz SS Module for Mini-Z
$79.99

briankstan
2008.01.24, 10:09 AM
TitanZ, thanks for posting that information... :cool:

briankstan
2008.01.24, 10:10 AM
Just saw, this thread. I'm surprised no one has bothered to check but the KO site has had pricing available for at least a week or more.

http://www.shopatron.com/product/part_number=15502/166.0.1053.56.0.0.0

KO PROPO RF-901SM 2.4GHz SS Module for Mini-Z
$79.99

I actually did check, but didn't see anything. thanks for posting the link.

simpleskin
2008.01.24, 10:29 AM
I'm going to wait for the module to be ready and I'm not buying a Kyosho 2.4 transmitter. Since I can't wait to get the new bodies I'm going to swap the motor mount and body onto one of my AD MR-02 Chassis.

-justin

ruf
2008.01.24, 12:28 PM
Since I can't wait to get the new bodies I'm going to swap the motor mount and body onto one of my AD MR-02 Chassis.Exactly what we were thinking when we decided to break up a few and offer the bodies and motor mounts as a separate package. There are guys out there that can't wait to run the new LM bodies... :)

One thing to note is that the RF-901SM Mini-Z module is cheaper than the RF-901S "regular" module. Good for Mini-Z only guys, but I wonder if there are limits to the RF-901SM module in that it won't work with the KO standalone receivers? If so, the next question will the more expensive RF-901S module work with Mini-Zs? Wait and see I guess... :confused:

edit: just noticed that the RF-901S module is 2000Y more expensive in Japan, but only $2 more expensive in the US pre-order?

Hammer
2008.01.24, 01:02 PM
KO PROPO KR-408S is the 2.4GHz Micro 4 channel receiver.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r144/1Hammer/Mini-Z%20Parts/kpms1.jpg

Size: 28 x 18.3 x 18.5 x (mm), 7.5 g, Retail $120.99

This is a very small receiver, extremely cool! :cool:

ruf
2008.01.24, 01:53 PM
The KR-408S is ridiculously small. Easily the smallest of the major brands out now. I wish they would have made it 2-channel just to see how small they could get it! :D

soulstice
2008.01.24, 02:44 PM
You guys are not gonna like this news but I sent an email earlier to KO Propo.

"The release date will be May~June for all 2.4GHz systems that we offer.

The RF-901S will not work with the Mini-Z's. You will need the RF-901SM."

mferrini
2008.01.24, 02:54 PM
The RF-901S will not work with the Mini-Z's. You will need the RF-901SM."

This is the most abbusive thing (from Ky & KO ) I read about this miniz ASF till now.

I can't understand why they make 2 modules for the same system, 1 for mini-z and 1 for the rest. OK, I correct my self, maybe there's some money bussines related :confused:

Gigibesi
2008.01.25, 08:18 PM
maybe the 2.4ghz for mini-z is using diffrent thing which distinguish itself and other 2.4 system

rharris
2008.01.26, 02:09 AM
Just saw, this thread. I'm surprised no one has bothered to check but the KO site has had pricing available for at least a week or more.

http://www.shopatron.com/product/part_number=15502/166.0.1053.56.0.0.0

KO PROPO RF-901SM 2.4GHz SS Module for Mini-Z
$79.99


And this is why I use this web site :D I swear I've been checking that site every week for a month and I still missed this.

Thanks!

Nightcargo
2008.01.26, 08:20 AM
I searched as well rharris and never found anything. That's why I posted!

arch2b
2008.01.26, 10:06 AM
we should have a thread in the transmitter subforum that has all the pertinent data for the kyo 2.4 tx as well as module. we really should have this for every tx.... if anyone has some time to kill and do this i'd appreciate it :) i'm sure other members will as well.

QDriver
2008.03.06, 10:58 PM
i got EX-1 mars radio, itsoldbut i love it, very light and fells right on my hands. i going to get the RF-901S for my 1/10 and RF-901SM for my AWD, but at KOsites they said that's for helios,marsR,EX-1UR, so anyone knows for sure thats it's workable with older mars??? like ADband module they said for helios and marsR but i got it work with original marsTX.
SO.... :confused::confused:

benmlee
2008.03.07, 01:17 AM
i got EX-1 mars radio, itsoldbut i love it, very light and fells right on my hands. i going to get the RF-901S for my 1/10 and RF-901SM for my AWD, but at KOsites they said that's for helios,marsR,EX-1UR, so anyone knows for sure thats it's workable with older mars??? like ADband module they said for helios and marsR but i got it work with original marsTX.
SO.... :confused::confused:

The 2.4Ghz module has got to work with the original mars. The mini-z module are different for each radio because the antenna on each radio is slightly different, so the impedance matching and all that stuff ideally would require a different module for each radio, or you loose performance.
However, the 2.4Ghz has a small antenna right on the module, so it does not use the radio antenna. Therefore, one module should fit all radios. That is what it said on the web site too.

DAMZer
2008.03.08, 09:50 PM
Can anybody confirm that the new 2.4 module will work on the old Mars-EX1?

Tim Johnson
2008.03.08, 10:49 PM
If I remember correctly, Ko Moduals will work with all Ko radio systems.

LBRC
2008.03.09, 12:35 AM
Nothing at KoPropo America but yes according to the shopatron link:
Description
2.4GHz module for the Kyosho Mini-Z. This module will work for the following radio systems; EX-1 Mars (R), EX-10 Helios, Esprit 3 Universe and EX-1 UR.
(http://www.shopatron.com/product/part_number=15502/166.0)

KoPropo Japan (http://www.kopropo.co.jp/product/new.html) not in English but you can clearly see EX-1 in the module discription.

rharris
2008.03.24, 04:22 PM
Now the big question is... when will we see this module in stores? Early April? Late April? In time to use them for the RCP West Coast Challenge race at RCX?

pinoyboy
2008.03.24, 06:15 PM
Now the big question is... when will we see this module in stores? Early April? Late April? In time to use them for the RCP West Coast Challenge race at RCX?

I asked today and was told

"There is no better ETA on the arrival of the RF-901SM or the RF-901S.
The dates are still late April-May. We are waiting for FCC and CE
approval. Once that happens, we can go into production and then they
will ship from Japan."

rharris
2008.03.24, 06:23 PM
I asked today and was told

"There is no better ETA on the arrival of the RF-901SM or the RF-901S.
The dates are still late April-May. We are waiting for FCC and CE
approval. Once that happens, we can go into production and then they
will ship from Japan."

DOH!!! Waiting on FCC approval? Aww man... that means it could be later then May! Bummer.

I really didn't want to use the stock remote at the RCX show.

bermbuster
2008.03.24, 08:33 PM
I asked today and was told

"There is no better ETA on the arrival of the RF-901SM or the RF-901S.
The dates are still late April-May. We are waiting for FCC and CE
approval. Once that happens, we can go into production and then they
will ship from Japan."

I called today as well and was given the same info....

briankstan
2008.03.24, 11:11 PM
that's a bummer, I'm waiting on this as well. Dang government regs. :mad:

byebye
2008.03.25, 06:09 AM
I remember when Tim was waiting on the FCC approval for the 2.4ghz car. Though he didn't mention how long he'd been waiting. I can't wait for these either.

Longer tx battery life...
More settings...

I just bought my wife a Helios and plan on eventually converting her murcielago. We just need the module.

Kris

briankstan
2008.04.28, 11:14 AM
I talked with the Ko Propo Rep at RCX. as of Friday the 18th. they had received FCC approval and can begin production of them for the US Market. he did have one Mini-Z module in the both the he was using in the EX-1 UR (I beleive) with the 2.4 mini-z.

he said they should be shipping out very soon. maybe within the next 3 weeks. :D

Tjay
2008.04.28, 03:58 PM
Hell Yeah! Thanks for the update Brian :D!

TheRinger
2008.04.28, 08:32 PM
I talked with the Ko Propo Rep at RCX. as of Friday the 18th. they had received FCC approval and can begin production of them for the US Market. he did have one Mini-Z module in the both the he was using in the EX-1 UR (I beleive) with the 2.4 mini-z.

he said they should be shipping out very soon. maybe within the next 3 weeks. :D

As in 3 weeks from today? Anyway thanks for the update, U are the only person who seems 2 have any info on the 2.4ghz mini z helios module. Been waiting forever to hear something. I want 2 buy a 2.4 car but don't want 2 buy the radio that they have out right now especially when I have a helios that I'd rather use instead.:D

lfisminiz
2008.04.28, 09:04 PM
Im with you. I want to change most of my cars over to the 2.4.. I have some of the boards already BUT need the Helios 2.4 module before i make the move.

briankstan
2008.04.28, 09:41 PM
the rep estimated about a month... RXC was a week ago so that is why I said 3 weeks. Remember it's an estimate, but it shouldn't be to much longer. :cool:

Programmers
2008.04.29, 03:42 AM
Thanks Brian! I can't wait. :D

arch2b
2008.05.06, 02:53 PM
here is a question, how will model memory be effected by the 2.4ghz bind process?

Hammer
2008.05.06, 03:21 PM
That's a good question.

I would guess with there being 10 basic memory settings, when you change to the 2.4GHz module then any of the memory positions could be used to identify a particular car's settings and then the frequency would be selected and the binding process would take place each time you set up to run the car.

arch2b
2008.05.06, 03:31 PM
would each model memory slot save the binding information specific to that memory slot or would every time i change to another model memory slot, i would have to rebind to the car associated with that memory slot? for those moving all thier cars to 2.4, that could end up being tedious.

Tjay
2008.05.06, 03:50 PM
On my 10th scale RC. I use to bind and re-bind my cars everytime I switch cars. On the other hand, I'm able to run my kt-18 radio on both awd and 2wd without re-binding them but then again the manual said to re-bind it. Maybe when i get the module I'll start binding each car every switch.

benmlee
2008.05.06, 03:56 PM
When I looked at the module at the RCX show, there are no switches on it to change memory settings.

Therefore, I don't think you can change binding information each time a different model memory is selected on the radio. With the current KT18, one radio can be bound to several cars. There should be no reason why the new module cannot be used to bind several cars. Memory settings on the radio is just used to memorize trim position no matter what car it is just like any other modules.
Unless I am missing something here.

Hammer
2008.05.06, 04:01 PM
Due to the automatic frequency selection feature, my understanding is that an open frequency is selected each time you set up to use the car for a session. So the specific frequency would not be in the memory settings, however, all of the other settings for a specific car would be saved.

CristianTabush
2008.05.06, 04:50 PM
WHat you are doing is binding the car to a specific transmitter, not the transmitter to a specific car. This is what allows you to use the same module/transmitter with multiple cars. The car identifies the particular setting the transmitter emits and binds to it.

bermbuster
2008.05.06, 05:15 PM
i use the spektrum pro module in my Helios. Once I bind the tx w an rx I never have to rebind. i have 5 spektrum car/trucks and 5 mini z s. The mini zs use either an am or ad module. I never have issues switching modules......

crazyracer
2008.05.08, 01:19 PM
attached the photos

briankstan
2008.05.08, 01:46 PM
attached the photos

Sweet.

does this mean you will be shipping mine soon? :D

crazyracer
2008.05.08, 02:04 PM
Sweet.

does this mean you will be shipping mine soon? :D


USA KO not yet in stock, I just order from Japan, all module or with EX10 or EX1 UR is out of stock, becuase they said in Japn market also very hot, so I just order EspritII with module.

briankstan
2008.05.08, 02:08 PM
USA KO not yet in stock, I just order from Japan, all module or with EX10 or EX1 UR is out of stock, becuase they said in Japn market also very hot, so I just order EspritII with module.

gotcha, well let us know how it work for you while testing, I guess the rest of us will just continue to wait. :(

Hammer
2008.05.08, 02:25 PM
all module or with EX10 or EX1 UR is out of stock, becuase they said in Japn market also very hot

Doesn't surprise me. This is a very big change for the Mini-Z scene and I would think the 2.4GHz module would be in high demand. ;)

I'd really like to have one asap but I want to support the shop here so I'm hoping David will have them here when they become available in the US. :D

Hammer
2008.05.21, 05:17 PM
For a quick update, I just spoke with KO Propo in Gardena, CA and they are still waiting for the 2.4GHz modules to arrive, ETA by the end of the month. :(

The 2.4GHz radio sets are not expected until next month. :( :(

Actually, I'm very happy they will be here soon, as time seems to be flying by. ;) :D

alfonsogarrigos
2008.05.23, 06:58 AM
hi, sorry for my english.

someone knows if the modules sold in japan are being with troubles?, someone in spain had said that the first batch of this can cause malfunction when more than one car is on the track, really thatīs true or itīs simply a fake???-

Programmers
2008.05.23, 07:29 AM
USA KO not yet in stock, I just order from Japan, all module or with EX10 or EX1 UR is out of stock, becuase they said in Japn market also very hot, so I just order EspritII with module.
Do you know if the module makes going in to reverse any easier than the KT18?

eztuner12
2008.05.23, 07:43 AM
hi, sorry for my english.

someone knows if the modules sold in japan are being with troubles?, someone in spain had said that the first batch of this can cause malfunction when more than one car is on the track, really thatīs true or itīs simply a fake???-
I have had bad experience with 2.4Ghz in the past with Spektrum and Futaba, reason way I went back to FM and PCM. The factories for the brand I mentioned informed me that the 2.4 Ghz some times confuses them self when searching for frequencies. The last time I used a Fut. 7 CHP 2.4 Ghz, I crashed and total lost a $3,500. helicopter:o.
Cheers

Tim Johnson
2008.05.23, 07:50 AM
That is a sad attempt of a rumor.


Most of the Turbine Jet pilots ($10,000 airplanes) Fly using the spectrum system. I do not see many using Futaba 2.4ghz systems yet.

eztuner12
2008.05.23, 09:21 AM
That is a sad attempt of a rumor.


Most of the Turbine Jet pilots ($10,000 airplanes) Fly using the spectrum system. I do not see many using Futaba 2.4ghz systems yet.
Sir,
In my case, definitely not an attempt for a rumor, just exposed a fact does to an experience.
In the US the 2.4GHZ ISM Band are governed by Part 19 the Federal Communication Commission Rules www.fcc.gov. The regulation states that devices operating within this band. Must expect interferences.
Quote from RC heli magazine, Nov-07
Glitches don’t come only from interference:
They have been many reports of glitches in 2.4GHz systems. Almost universally, these glitches are caused by insufficient voltage at the receiver. With the more common use of digital servos, gyros, regulator and others accessories. Demand on the power source has increased dramatically. If the battery and its associated wiring are not up to handling the load, the voltage at the receiver may drop low enough to fool the receiver, into thinking it has just been turned on. Once this happens, you’re looking at an undesirable time period with lack of control while the receiver is re-initializing.
Also, antenna shadowing can cause a temporary loose of signal. As much as designers try to compensate for this, it is ultimately our responsibility to make sure as much of the antenna gets exposed as possible. Don’t bury it deep inside your model. End of quote.

Some thing else to consider, Microwave oven as well as other spread spectrum devices such as cordless phones, wireless computer notebooks, and bluetooth devices also share this band.
Maybe this will clear the skies,
Cheers

Tim Johnson
2008.05.23, 09:52 AM
I think you did not understand me. This was not directed at you, this was directed at the statment, or who ever is trying to start this rumor.

CristianTabush
2008.05.23, 10:32 AM
Sir,
In my case, definitely not an attempt for a rumor, just exposed a fact does to an experience.
In the US the 2.4GHZ ISM Band are governed by Part 19 the Federal Communication Commission Rules www.fcc.gov. The regulation states that devices operating within this band. Must expect interferences.
Quote from RC heli magazine, Nov-07
Glitches don’t come only from interference:
They have been many reports of glitches in 2.4GHz systems. Almost universally, these glitches are caused by insufficient voltage at the receiver. With the more common use of digital servos, gyros, regulator and others accessories. Demand on the power source has increased dramatically. If the battery and its associated wiring are not up to handling the load, the voltage at the receiver may drop low enough to fool the receiver, into thinking it has just been turned on. Once this happens, you’re looking at an undesirable time period with lack of control while the receiver is re-initializing.
Also, antenna shadowing can cause a temporary loose of signal. As much as designers try to compensate for this, it is ultimately our responsibility to make sure as much of the antenna gets exposed as possible. Don’t bury it deep inside your model. End of quote.

Some thing else to consider, Microwave oven as well as other spread spectrum devices such as cordless phones, wireless computer notebooks, and bluetooth devices also share this band.
Maybe this will clear the skies,
Cheers

Why not make sure that you have fully charged batteries and avoid flying and/or racing in your Kitchen where you might find Microwaves and Cordless phones...

99.9% of the time all these problems are the user's fault period. KO Propo goes through tons of testing ensuring these products don't fail once they reach the market.

Flashsp-2
2008.05.23, 10:33 AM
Do you know if the module makes going in to reverse any easier than the KT18?

I just got mine in today and the issue is still the same. I think the only way that the issue will truly be solved is programming the deadband on the ICS (assuming it will work on the throttle and steering), whenever it becomes available for the 2.4 boards. Once we can widen the neutral area of the throttle I think the issue will be minimized a lot. As it stands I am using my EX-I UR just as carefully as the KT-18, trying not to overshoot the neutral spot.

briankstan
2008.05.23, 10:55 AM
I just got mine in today and the issue is still the same. I think the only way that the issue will truly be solved is programming the deadband on the ICS (assuming it will work on the throttle and steering), whenever it becomes available for the 2.4 boards. Once we can widen the neutral area of the throttle I think the issue will be minimized a lot. As it stands I am using my EX-I UR just as carefully as the KT-18, trying not to overshoot the neutral spot.

thanks for the update, this is good to know. I'm still looking forward to receiving mine so I can use my helios. The KT-18 just doesn't feel right in my hand.

Tim Johnson
2008.05.23, 10:57 AM
Everything that emits RF in the USA has to follow Part 19 of the FCC. That does not mean that the module will have glitching.

briankstan
2008.05.23, 11:00 AM
I'm not concearned about the module. I know Kyosho and KoPropo both make high quality products. :cool: And since the boards are made by KoPropo I'm sure they work together wonderfully.

Programmers
2008.05.23, 01:18 PM
I just got mine in today and the issue is still the same. I think the only way that the issue will truly be solved is programming the deadband on the ICS (assuming it will work on the throttle and steering), whenever it becomes available for the 2.4 boards. Once we can widen the neutral area of the throttle I think the issue will be minimized a lot. As it stands I am using my EX-I UR just as carefully as the KT-18, trying not to overshoot the neutral spot.
That's gutted me TBH. I was hoping that our expensive controllers and modules would fix the issue. :( I guess I'll just have to wait until mine arrives and see what I can do. Thanks for the prompt reply! :cool:

eztuner12
2008.05.23, 01:56 PM
Yes, the advent of the 2.4GHz tech on models has changed some dynamics, in that the nature of 2.4GHz operation reduces the likelihood of RF interference. However this doesn’t mean that you 2.4 guys can just sit in your laurels. Up to today’s tech, all radios and receivers are susceptible to interference. If you have a problem with your 2.4GHz radio, the problem-solving steps are similar to those for FM PCM. On modern 2.4 GHz The same type of failsafe features that you find on PCM had to be added for a good reason. Now the questions are; If it worth it? Do you really need it or do you want it?
Cheers.
BTW, Excellent joke Cristian:). How did you know I like to hover my Gaui Hurricane 200 in my kitchen while eating?
Cheers man.

Flashsp-2
2008.05.23, 07:50 PM
thanks for the update, this is good to know. I'm still looking forward to receiving mine so I can use my helios. The KT-18 just doesn't feel right in my hand.

I couldn't agree more, just the fact that I can use my EX-I UR again is worth the cost of the module. For me there is no amount of tape, wheel changes and fuel tubing that could make the KT-18 feel right.


That's gutted me TBH. I was hoping that our expensive controllers and modules would fix the issue. :( I guess I'll just have to wait until mine arrives and see what I can do. Thanks for the prompt reply! :cool:

Yeah, it does kinda bum me out, but there is no way around it I guess, at least for the time being.

Hammer
2008.05.29, 01:10 PM
Just a quick update, the 2.4GHz module for the EX-10 Helios should be available in the US in about 1 1/2 weeks according to a post by KO PROPO Staff in another thread.

Here's a link: 2.4GHz Module for EX-10 Helios Availability (http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=304419&postcount=592)

Tjay
2008.05.29, 01:56 PM
Thanks for the update Hammer. I know a lot of people are waiting for this! I know I was :)...

lfisminiz
2008.06.07, 09:06 PM
Guys, for you guys that have the 2.4 helios module. I did the radio and car binding and it worked great. For the 2nd chassis, i heard you have to bind the radio again before you do the 2nd chassis etc....exactly how do you bind the radio the 2nd time around etc...
Thanks:confused:

Flashsp-2
2008.06.07, 09:44 PM
Just do it the same way as the first. I can turn on both cars and they will work at the same time (obviously not something to do on the track). I may it's akin to having the same crystal in the radio and two cars. This is how I did it, don't know if there is any other, or better, way to do it.

lfisminiz
2008.06.08, 12:43 AM
THANKS, did alittle tunning on the cars and figured it out. Its pretty slick set-up.

lfisminiz
2008.06.08, 12:44 AM
Oh by the way...THANKS TJ for your help on this.;)

Tjay
2008.06.08, 03:36 AM
Your welcome Larry :D!

Hammer
2008.06.08, 03:10 PM
FYI, the shop here now has the 2.4GHz module available for pre-order, expected in stock by June 15th-just one week from today!

Here's the link:
KO PROPO Mini-Z RF Module RF-901SM 2.4GHz ASF SS for EX-10 Helios, EX-1 Mars, EX-1 UR, Esprit 3 Universe (http://shop.tinyrc.com/product.php?productid=19278&cat=0&page=1)

Get em while you can, they're going to be a hot item. :D

simpleskin
2008.06.12, 02:07 PM
I pre-ordered mine from Kopropo's Shopatron site a a few months ago. I just got this email from then today saying they are in and ready to ship...

Pre-ordered items from your order 2003115 have been released.
Note that your credit card will not be charged until the order is
actually ready to ship.

The following items are now available to be shipped:

Qty Part# name Total
1 15502 RF-901SM 2.4GHz SS Module for Mini-ZUSD$ 79.99

I can't wait to get this and finally get rid of those KT-18's

-j

simpleskin
2008.06.12, 03:02 PM
The module just shipped to me from Kopropo via Shopatron! Sweet!

dhamby123
2008.06.15, 11:17 AM
Does anyone know if you can bind a spectrum radio to these ? i have a 2 channel spectrum radio and it would be nice to use it sorry if this has been asked already but i couldnt find the answer anywhere thanks

LBRC
2008.06.15, 01:35 PM
You can not.

2.4GHz KoPropo ASF receivers require ASF radios or modules, 2.4GHz Spektrum DSM receivers require DSM radios or modules, 2.4GHz Futaba FASST receivers require FASST radios or modules, etc.

Shrubba
2008.06.16, 04:29 PM
Just got my 2.4ghz module in the mail! I'm very excited! I doubt I'll try it for a while, but I am stoked! I have three 2.4 ghz mini z cars! 2 mr02 and 1 awd.

Shrubba

simpleskin
2008.06.17, 10:34 AM
Mine should arrive tomorrow. It will be used on my 2 LM cars (Mazda, Porsche), my 94mm NSX and my Porsche RSR MR-15 and my Mazda dNaNo!

Can't wait!

frmorell
2008.06.17, 05:01 PM
Tomorrow arrive my module!!!! I canīt wait .... I have a question, somebody can say me were can I buy a Dnano? thanks

briankstan
2008.06.17, 05:49 PM
Tomorrow arrive my module!!!! I canīt wait .... I have a question, somebody can say me were can I buy a Dnano? thanks

if you are in Japan they are available though you Kyosho dealers. if you are anywhere else you'll need to look at ebay.

Tjay
2008.06.17, 06:35 PM
or through reflexracing.net. They have it in stock.

briankstan
2008.06.17, 08:30 PM
or through reflexracing.net. They have it in stock.

I think he was asking where he could get a Dnano ;)

Tjay
2008.06.18, 02:42 AM
oppsss... hahaha... ebay then :).

fpipo
2008.06.19, 07:56 PM
in USA is available the Dnano in www.dnanoshop.com

Saludos

Programmers
2008.06.19, 08:04 PM
in USA is available the Dnano in www.dnanoshop.com

Saludos
Keep in mind this is not an official Kyosho distributor...

byebye
2008.06.19, 08:54 PM
I got my module today! It works like a charm though I haven't used it on the track. I do like the fact that the brake functions much faster. I can't wait to run it this weekend.

Kris

fpipo
2008.06.19, 08:59 PM
Keep in mind this is not an official Kyosho distributor...

Is good to know that, Thanks

Programmers
2008.06.20, 03:32 AM
I got my module today! It works like a charm though I haven't used it on the track. I do like the fact that the brake functions much faster. I can't wait to run it this weekend.
Kris, mate, you've made my day! I can't wait to receive mine now!

Is good to know that, Thanks
No problamo.

herman
2008.06.20, 05:39 AM
I got my module today! It works like a charm though I haven't used it on the track. I do like the fact that the brake functions much faster. I can't wait to run it this weekend.
what kinda settings did you have to make the brake function react faster?

byebye
2008.06.20, 06:15 AM
As far as the brake function/actuation, its at the stock setting on the Helios. I erased the memory in order to start tuning from the base setting. Now don't get me wrong, you still have to brake the same it just seems to actuate or get to that point quicker than with the KT-18.

Remember I have yet to track test it so my findings are not complete but I have no doubt it's going to work flawlessly.

Kris

simpleskin
2008.06.20, 08:18 AM
I also got mine the other day. Already set it up with all of my 2.4 cars including my dNaNo. It works great! It's nice to run these cars on my RCP track with a real controller and it really shows the difference between my helios and the kt-18. However I didn't notice any difference in the reverse functionality. Maybe others have wishful thinking? :D I think the only way we can resolve this is via ICS tweaking. I have mostly gotten used to this annoyance but I still find myself getting stuck at times and losing precious time.

-J

fpipo
2008.06.20, 08:30 PM
I receive mine today and I test on my L track and it work fine even the reverse, Tomorrow I'm going to test in a bigger track.

Saludos

Felix2010
2008.06.21, 11:29 AM
As far as the brake function/actuation, its at the stock setting on the Helios. I erased the memory in order to start tuning from the base setting. Now don't get me wrong, you still have to brake the same it just seems to actuate or get to that point quicker than with the KT-18.

Remember I have yet to track test it so my findings are not complete but I have no doubt it's going to work flawlessly.

Kris

I agree with you byebye, I have a Helios and just got my ASF module. The reverse is easier to get into with the Helios than with my KT-18. I have liked the Helios' stiffer/crisper steering wheel action since I got it over a year ago. On the KT-18 the steering and throttle action is much lighter - One big reason I didn't like the KT-18 right there...
I did what you said also in that I used a new model-select with default-settings on the Helios so I could begin tuning from the ground-up. I think the Helios just has a solid feel to it's throttle trigger which makes getting into reverse easier - The .2 sec delay is still there but it seems quicker with the Helios then with the KT-18.

One thing I had a lil trouble with was binding/pairing my car at first using the ASF module with my helios. I had a hard time getting the module to setup properly. When turning on the radio with the module's "setup" button depressed, sometimes the LED light on the module would not go out after 3 seconds as it should. It would just stay on and I'd have to turn off the Tx and try again. I also have encountered problems when I try the setup/binding process again after a failed attempt. The module LED would not go out. Then strangely I would have to wait 10 minutes before trying the pairing process again to get the module set-up to work(LED goes out after 3 sec). I did finally pair a couple cars with my Helios, it just took a little time. Kinda weird.
Anybody have difficulty similar to this with their Helios+ASF module?

GIHOSU
2008.08.06, 07:37 PM
I was stubborn, there were offers early on, with a high price tag at first. I was able to resist until today, I was finally able to get a 2.4 Ghz Module at my Local Hobby Shop. I went to run for a few hours in the afternoon and there they were. I grabbed one and stuck it in my EX-10, took a moment to bind and then I ran it. I started out with a bone stock Chassis set and a used Supra body and the steering is amazing. It ran kinda slow but the throttle action felt much more reactive. I am getting ready now to hook it up so it will go fast...