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Jonny
2008.02.18, 06:17 AM
Oh it's so exciting round here lately! Packages flying in from all corners of the globe ;D

Here's my new LM Package with KT18 transmitter. All only bought because I obtained permission beforehand - Thanks Gina :-*

http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/2.4 Packed.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/2.4 In Box.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/2.4 KT18.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/KT18.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/2.4 Parts.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/962LM Top Quarter.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/962LM Front Quarter.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/02LM Chassis Quarter.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/02LM Chassis Side View.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/02LM Front Suspension.jpg

Jonny
2008.02.18, 06:17 AM
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/02LM Rear Pod.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/02LM Rear Pod Bottom.jpg
http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/02LM Chassis Rear.jpg

And nice glue job :-\

http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/02LM Glue.jpg

Now I'm off to do some work..... ;)

Jonny

byebye
2008.02.18, 09:01 AM
Does it come with parts to push the motor mount to 98mm? Mine is on its way ;)

Kris

mk2kompressor
2008.02.18, 10:23 AM
oooooh very nice,im still undecided on getting one,ill have a go on yours before i buy;)

Fovea3d
2008.02.18, 11:54 AM
Hi!
Mhhhm, how nice! Looks exactly like mine (http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/080211ASF/porschefragile.jpg) was last week :(
Congrats Jonny, and welcome to the blue LED club!
But be aware that this Porsche body is as fragile as glass...
I think the revolution here is about the electronics and particulary the steering wich is very fast. This makes you drive some erratic laps in the beginning, combining this with the fragile body will results in the picture I've posted above ;)

How do you like the TX? Contrary to what I have read everywhere, I like it! It is light, practical, is well balanced in my hand. Not to mention no antenna in sight anymore :)

byebye
2008.02.18, 12:53 PM
Looks fragile as *&^%%$! I'll be putting this on the shelf and will probably first run it as a VDSII.

Kris

Jonny
2008.02.18, 01:10 PM
@ Kris - You can shift the pod down to 98mm but there's no damping consideration there and no extra parts included I'm afraid, a little fun below:

http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/Lambo LM Sm.jpg

@ Mk2 - Try before you buy? Hmm I hadn't anticipated that feature ;)

@ Alain - Hi again, yes I decided to try one out. Oh my god, that's some damage!!! :eek: I did hear a couple of cracks in the first few laps, I've escaped so far but I do need to reinforce it ASAP. Of course, I couldn't wait to do that, I had to try it out :rolleyes:
The controller certainly isn't as bad as I thought but I don't like that you can't change the D/R without stopping, turning the wheel to the side you want to adjust and then tapping the adjust key!
Overall though, it's such a change to a normal TX. I like it so far :D

Jonny

Jonny
2008.02.18, 05:09 PM
Hi!
Mhhhm, how nice! Looks exactly like mine (http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/080211ASF/porschefragile.jpg) combining this with the fragile body will results in the picture I've posted above ;)
Further to my post above - Does this look familiar, Alain?! :eek: I setup my LM tonight, changed the knuckles to normal 02 ones, smooth sanded the disk damper, changed to ATM grooved tyres and had approx 45 minutes running before this:

http://www.risingsunracing.co.uk/images/02LM Cracked.jpg

I think some complaining to Kyosho should be done about this one, I'm driving by myself on RCP and was enjoying some of the most consistent and smooth laps before the odd bump took the front end out. Notice both sides of the nose clip and above the right hand (as you're looking at it in this pic) light bucket, the whole corner will pull off.

Jonny

Fovea3d
2008.02.18, 05:45 PM
Oh no... RIP yet another 962. I know how you feel Jonny :(
I think the lamp/wing assembly are too massive in regard of the thinness of the area where the crack occurs. I have the same hairline cracks on top of the wing btw.
Of course this is a design misconception and we should all group/complain, joining pics.
A friend here who bought the Kenwood had this happening as well. And guess what?
>Sasha quote on RCmicro.de:
"Annoying: Even with the standard motor the Karo at the lamp in front tore. ... has now kevlar carbon-reinforcement in it...."

I think we can forget using the Porsche for the next 12H... Too bad. I taped mine so I could race it at our friday meeting, so it raced once... at least:rolleyes:

arch2b
2008.02.18, 07:39 PM
could this damage be prevented by a simple cnc cut bumper? or some precut reinforcement plate? if so, i'm sure it would be an easy sell for anyone to make. hell, i could cad it up if i had the body and have friends with cnc access.

Felix2010
2008.02.18, 11:12 PM
I got the white Porsche too plus a KT-18, and the 2.4gHz ASF system is great. No glitching.... Love it. After a few laps on my track with the Porsche + LM-chassis config, I quickly went and swapped-out the LM pod/damper in favor of my 94mm WB MM PN Racing mount, PN DPS, and all the other goodies that make up my 94mm WB AD-Band MR-02 racer.
So far my only gripe with the KT-18 is the steering wheel has very light tension and is too easy to turn to full lock, making steering very sensitive - At least compared to my Helios which I'm very used to. I like to have to use a little force to turn the wheel, it gives more steering feel for me. The KT-18's light wheel-rotation combined with the ASF's ultra-fast steering response is a challenge for now. I wish the KT-18's wheel either turned with more resistance or had adjustable turning-resistance. I can't wait for the Helios ASF Module to arrive.:cool:
I have to say the ASF's steering response time is impressive. I have been using AD-Band for almost a year now, and the ASF steering response I think is even faster.

Jonny
2008.02.19, 04:25 AM
Oh no... RIP yet another 962. I know how you feel Jonny :(
I think the lamp/wing assembly are too massive in regard of the thinness of the area where the crack occurs. I have the same hairline cracks on top of the wing btw.
Of course this is a design misconception and we should all group/complain, joining pics.
A friend here who bought the Kenwood had this happening as well. And guess what?
>Sasha quote on RCmicro.de:
"Annoying: Even with the standard motor the Karo at the lamp in front tore. ... has now kevlar carbon-reinforcement in it...."

I think we can forget using the Porsche for the next 12H... Too bad. I taped mine so I could race it at our friday meeting, so it raced once... at least:rolleyes:
Same thing with Sash's...I've read at least one more person's account on here and I'm sure there are more. I plan to make it good again to race with like you have but I'm shocked at just how weak it was. It's a poor design indeed and one that they must know of. Perhaps Mini Z Racer can help us out with a complaint/petition?

@ Arch - Of course, a bumper could take the initial shock of a collision and if it's high enough, prevent any race damage against any other cars. A reinforcement plate again too and some epoxy would help but still, doesn't negate the fact that this is a poor design made for racing, when in fact it is only useful as a display body without modification.

@ Felix - I agree, the steering is light and sensitive and my style is much the same as yours and prefer a stiffer wheel but I must admit I was surprised at how quickly I got used to the KT18 and chassis. I'll again say I love it but it's a shame I have a slightly sour taste of my overall experience. There's always something.....

Jonny

herman
2008.02.25, 10:25 PM
overall i got most of the same experiences as you all... except for the cracked body... haven't really had a chance to run it on a real track...

man if the body is going to be that fragile, i guess, it's going to be a shelf queen pretty soon... kinda sad, cause i was beginning to like that body...

guest
2008.02.29, 07:47 PM
Further to my post above - Does this look familiar, Alain?! :eek: I setup my LM tonight, changed the knuckles to normal 02 ones, smooth sanded the disk damper, changed to ATM grooved tyres and had approx 45 minutes running before this:

I think some complaining to Kyosho should be done about this one, I'm driving by myself on RCP and was enjoying some of the most consistent and smooth laps before the odd bump took the front end out. Notice both sides of the nose clip and above the right hand (as you're looking at it in this pic) light bucket, the whole corner will pull off.

Jonny

We have had the same problem on our track but i think i figured it out. First i made some epoxy reinforcment, but it cracked.
Some offroad racers around here like to "boil" there rims to get them more elastic. So i thought i`ll give it a try. I was afraid of tweaking or melting the body, so i just brought the water to boiling temperature, and then dipped the body for about 10 seconds. Repeated this 4 times while letting it cool between the dipps. Then i made a new epoxy reinforcment.
And now after 1 race and about 2h of training its holding togheter nicely, no new cracks have developed while the other guys whit porches are wrecking them.