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TheRinger
2008.03.31, 09:30 PM
How about a compact class race or enduro? Same rules as before.

Must be a 1/28 scale chassis that can fit a autoscale body.
No motor, receiver, or fet limit.
The following autoscale bodies are for this race

Honda Fit
Toyota Vitz
Mini Cooper
VW Golf GTI
VW Golf R32
VW New Beetle
Lancia Delta Integrale

Of coarse if I missed any autoscale bodies that are compact please speak up. For instance I was thinking of adding the AE86 corolla and chrysler PT cruiser to the list but I thought this might be a problem but not sure, so what do all think?

arch2b
2008.03.31, 09:39 PM
can these be done without a hm motor pod? i actually have one but i doubt many others do.

i've already got a vitz, beetle, cooper and old school lancia

i don't think all of these need to be endurance races but having run these enough, short mains just aren't as fun anymore. i'm more comfortable with 15-20 minute mains which is what a good set of cell should get you thru. what do you guys think?

TheRinger
2008.03.31, 10:05 PM
can these be done without a hm motor pod? i actually have one but i doubt many others do.

i've already got a vitz, beetle, cooper and old school lancia

i don't think all of these need to be endurance races but having run these enough, short mains just aren't as fun anymore. i'm more comfortable with 15-20 minute mains which is what a good set of cell should get you thru. what do you guys think?

None of those bodies will except anything but a high mount pod with the exception of either one of the VW golf's which is classified and sold as a high mount car but is 94mm so U should be able to fit an ML mount. But knowing this would be a problem I was wanting to add both the AE86 corolla and the chrysler PT cruiser since they are rear mounts but I know some people would consider this a problem but I'm not sure so I thought I'd bring it up to run it by everybody to see if these 2 bodies should be allowed. Yes I agree on having long mains but I also made the pole multiple choice so vote for what U want. As far as high mount pods arch I can lend U one if U want. I got both kyosho stock and atomic high mount motor pods so let me know. I personally thought this was a doable race since I know half of us have mini cooper bodies. High mount motor pods don't cost that much and are not that hard to find.(I got my stock kyosho HM pod at hobbyworks and my atomic alloy motor pod here at the shop) Sorry I don't mean to come across harsh, I had a really bad 2 weeks.

soulstice
2008.03.31, 10:13 PM
I think this event would be fun. It'd be pandemonium with cars tipping over and stuff but i think it adds to it rather than detracts.

I think the car choices you've made are fine. It might even be okay to do just one body like a cooper if everyone has one.

Dusty Weasle
2008.03.31, 10:32 PM
You might include the Vauxhall Astra and Subaru Impreza in that group.

Soulstice- We're running an All Wheel Drive only series here at Mini-AZ (The Timex ATM) which requires the taller body, shorter wheel base shells. In testing everyone was rolling and flipping out of the track, it was clown-cars. But when opening day came, game faces went on and the carefully tuned cars performed well with nary a flip. In fact, this series is providing the closest lap-to-lap competition for us. Great fun!

(Hey, there's a class- Clown Car only bodies ;))

herman
2008.03.31, 10:42 PM
(Hey, there's a class- Clown Car only bodies )

still have my old martha...
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2257&highlight=martha
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1262&d=1017995158

arch2b
2008.04.01, 07:39 AM
...As far as high mount pods arch I can lend U one if U want. I got both kyosho stock and atomic high mount motor pods so let me know. I personally thought this was a doable race since I know half of us have mini cooper bodies. High mount motor pods don't cost that much and are not that hard to find.(I got my stock kyosho HM pod at hobbyworks and my atomic alloy motor pod here at the shop) Sorry I don't mean to come across harsh, I had a really bad 2 weeks.

...i actually have one but i doubt many others do.


i agree, $6 for a race is not an unreasonable request. it would make it easier is all, if you could sneak a mm under some of the bodies though as most of you guys already run mm. i should know but i don't dabble in mm much.

not harsh at all... i greatly appreciate your enthusiasim for these types of races as they have been very popular and worked well. i personally look forward to these very much. no matter the body choice, i agree with soulstice, it only adds to the race vs. taking away from it.

perhaps short heats with longer mains and bump ups and/or limit the number of cars per heat?

soyverde
2008.04.01, 09:11 AM
I think it's a great idea, but if you don't limit it to HM, it kind of short changes anyone who does run HM, because they will have far less chance of a fair race. For example, I'd love to run my mini cooper with a HM, but if anyone is running an AE86 on MM, there will be no contest. :rolleyes:

Just my $0.02

imxlr8ed
2008.04.01, 09:47 AM
There's 2 Focus cars out there, and the S2000 too... and maybe the MR2 and the 206s as well.

arch2b
2008.04.01, 09:58 AM
can be as simple as making it a hm body only. this cuts the choices down a bit as well.

VAzRACER
2008.04.01, 04:48 PM
Well looks like I'm goiing to have a custom painted mini cooper soon, I like the idea of a HM race, but it should be limited to HM bodies only. If there are people opposed to running HM maybe limit wheelbase to 90mm or something....

TALLGEESE
2008.04.01, 06:19 PM
A High-Mount only class race sounds like fun.. Maybe we could setup a lower speed, technical track layout for this race to reduce the amount of flipping..

TheRinger
2008.04.03, 09:05 PM
Would everyone perfer to make this a HM only race? I have race a couple of RM bodies with a HM pod, for instance I used a HM pod with a porsche 934 and 935 bodies. And with a stock kyosho HM pod kit U can use it with 86, 90, and 94mm bodies. I also tried a HM pod with the AE86. I haven't tried the atomic motor pod with other than 90mm. Or should it just be limited to HM bodies?

soulstice
2008.04.04, 08:17 AM
Would everyone perfer to make this a HM only race? I have race a couple of RM bodies with a HM pod, for instance I used a HM pod with a porsche 934 and 935 bodies. And with a stock kyosho HM pod kit U can use it with 86, 90, and 94mm bodies. I also tried a HM pod with the AE86. I haven't tried the atomic motor pod with other than 90mm. Or should it just be limited to HM bodies?

i think it should be both HM bodies and the HM mount to make it more of a challenge since that will force you to drive a little differently. I think the wheelbase should be limited to 86 or 90.

Spoon
2008.04.04, 10:44 AM
How about HM with any motor but stock gearing...meaning 6t pinion for most of us or whatever the equivalent 64 pitch gearing is.

I would be interested in doing longer mains. Maybe not enduro but 10-20 minutes.

TALLGEESE
2008.04.04, 12:14 PM
I agree with Soulstice, we should have to run the HM motor pod for this race.. It'll just make for a more entertaining and challenging race.. I also would like to see longer mains instead of endurance events like Spoon mentioned.. We could do 8 minute qualifiers with 15 minute mains...

VAzRACER
2008.04.04, 12:55 PM
15 minute mains sound great, if we all do run 6 tooth gears we should get long run times.

TheRinger
2008.04.07, 08:42 PM
How about HM with any motor but stock gearing...meaning 6t pinion for most of us or whatever the equivalent 64 pitch gearing is.

I would be interested in doing longer mains. Maybe not enduro but 10-20 minutes.

Hey spoon, how about we combine your idea of racing a stock motor and 6 tooth with racing HM cars? Kinda killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

Peregrinari
2008.04.12, 08:33 AM
So I take it that everyone but me has a 90mm HM. I have a nice GTI R32 body but I would run that on the AWD. My MR-02 is 94mm RM, so that is out. I suppose I need to get another chassis (MR-015) so that I could take part in something like this. I am too broke after the 500 bux I shelled out on my AWD. Ah well, maybe one day in the future.

Tom

VAzRACER
2008.04.12, 09:02 AM
So I take it that everyone but me has a 90mm HM. I have a nice GTI R32 body but I would run that on the AWD. My MR-02 is 94mm RM, so that is out. I suppose I need to get another chassis (MR-015) so that I could take part in something like this. I am too broke after the 500 bux I shelled out on my AWD. Ah well, maybe one day in the future.

Tom

Well, you already have the GTI body to run, just go to the shop here and but a HM motor mount and put it on your RM chassis for the day, thats what I'm doing. You wouldnt want to buy a new chassis just for this race because its probably the only time we will run this class.

Peregrinari
2008.04.12, 11:58 PM
I don't think the GTI will fit on the 02. I will check but I think it is too narrow. I had a great time today! thanks for being so helpful and tolerant of a newb racer like myself. Two things I learned today. Make sure that your car is setup (well I thought mine was until all the weird crap started happening) and I need a lot more practice racing. :D It was great meeting all of you guys!

Correction, it is a perfect fit. Even with the RM pod it will drop right on. I will see what I can do about the HM Pod now.

Tom

Peregrinari
2008.05.19, 06:51 AM
I think this should be next after the Hurda Challenge. This is cool idea and should be a blast to watch us try to get around with these little cars. Rules should be the bodies you mentioned, HM mount and stock gearing. Mains should be 20 minutes and we should decide if people should be limited to narrow tires both front and rear and no body lowering. That would definitely level the field. (not to mention, keep my beautiful R32 in one piece without be having to grind the hell out of it.)

Tom

TheRinger
2008.07.25, 09:55 PM
When should we have this race?

TheRinger
2008.09.25, 08:20 PM
Does anyone still want 2 have this race? We can hold it in fredericksburg and I'm talking with the hobby shop in stafford about holding races there. I got 2 check out the space available 2 use but in the meantime where and when if we do have this race?

arch2b
2008.09.25, 08:48 PM
this month is full with the als and hfay, nov has hfay and nekocon, dec is an open month

TALLGEESE
2008.09.26, 01:33 PM
December sounds good to me for this race, it will give me some time to get a car together..

TheRinger
2008.09.29, 08:31 PM
Anybody else want 2 have this race in december? Another question is where do we have this race?

arch2b
2009.03.27, 07:56 PM
are we racing tomorrow?

arch2b
2009.03.27, 07:59 PM
whom has the computer/core?