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MINIz guy11
2008.12.15, 04:50 AM
I've been out of the loop for a while, and have a Overland with a MR-02 board installed. As you can guess, the layout of the board isn't quite right, so I'd like to return mine to as close as stock as possible.

What board choices do it have? I can go stock, maybe even an iWaver board, but I see there are new ASF boards. Can somebody clarify the differences and show me options?

briankstan
2008.12.15, 08:58 AM
I just installed a 2.4 in my overland over the weekend. if you go this direction you will need to extend all of the wires. Switch, pot, servo motor, and battery terminal leads.

the fit is good, give that the 2.4 board is smaller than the other boards. I had to add about 1 inch to the servo motor wires, and about 2 inches to the pot wires. Note the pot on the 2.4 board uses 3 wires so getting them to all fit is a bit tricky but if you use the correct wire size it's doable.

MINIz guy11
2008.12.15, 09:36 AM
Thank you for your reply, Brian!

Now could you help me with clarifying the differences between the different boards? I see there is a MA-010 ASF Conversion set, a MA-010 board and a MR-02 board ranging in prices. What would be the one I should be looking for?

Also, I have a Airtronics M8. Would I need to get a new module or new radio, or could I keep my current module for regular Mini Z's?

briankstan
2008.12.15, 10:11 AM
Thank you for your reply, Brian!

Now could you help me with clarifying the differences between the different boards? I see there is a MA-010 ASF Conversion set, a MA-010 board and a MR-02 board ranging in prices. What would be the one I should be looking for?

Also, I have a Airtronics M8. Would I need to get a new module or new radio, or could I keep my current module for regular Mini Z's?

the ASF boards are the 2.4ghz ones. the other would be AM. the newer boards have 3010 fets on them and the 2.4 boards have 2x2 of the 3010 fets. Similar to the setup on the AD band boards.

the difference between the boards are just the length of the wires, you will need to lengthen them no matter what board you get, maybe not all of them be for sure the pot and servo motor wires.

the 2.4 board would require a new module for your controller, I'm not sure if there is a direct one for the airtronics, I use the EX-10 helios and I have the 2.4 for it. I know PN racing has an adapter, but off hand I can't remember if it's for the airtronics or the futaba radios.

I used this ASF board for the MR-02 (#MZ303)

http://www.saltlakemini-z.com/Zen_Cart/images/Kyosho/MZ303_1.JPG

MINIz guy11
2008.12.15, 10:51 AM
Would this work? (http://www3.************.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXPNM6&P=SM)

briankstan
2008.12.15, 11:10 AM
link doesn't work

MINIz guy11
2008.12.15, 05:37 PM
Ah...never realized they filtered websites here. Fill in the *'s with T o w e r h o b b i e s .

briankstan
2008.12.15, 05:57 PM
this is what you need if you want to go the 2.4ghz route, it will work with the Airtronics M8, M11 and the Futaba 3PK

http://www.rckenon.com/public_html/shop2/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3855

http://www.pnracing.us/new/product_image/378_2.jpg http://www.pnracing.us/new/product_image/378_3.jpg

than you can get the Ko Propo 2.4 mini-Z module. the mini-z doesn't work with the standard 2.4 modules.

http://www.rckenon.com/public_html/shop2/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3529

http://www.rckenon.com/public_html/shop2/catalog/images/KOP15502-250.jpg

if you want to stay AM you can use you current Mini-Z module and then just get the AM board. you will still need to lengthen the wires on the front to the pot and servo motor, but it is a cheaper option for you.

MINIz guy11
2008.12.15, 06:31 PM
On second thought, the $100 price difference between 2.4GHz and AM is too large. I think I'll be much better off with a $90 Overland-ready board from Mini Z Racer than to bother with spending $200 for a 2.4GHz board + Modules, just not ready to take the jump with my current state of interest.

Thank you for your help Brian!

briankstan
2008.12.15, 06:43 PM
I agree if you only have the one 2.4 it isn't worth the swap. I'd stick with the AM board. I only upgraded mine because I was doing all my cars and I already had the module.

MINIz guy11
2008.12.15, 06:54 PM
:eek: All your cars :eek:

One day when I get my own job, I'll feel less guilty trying to fulfill my hobbies. That is, if my job will allow me to even fulfill my hobbies :p

Time to be on the lookout for deals now. Need a mainboard and a few minor MR-015 chassis pieces. :rolleyes:

briankstan
2008.12.15, 08:36 PM
:eek: All your cars :eek:

One day when I get my own job, I'll feel less guilty trying to fulfill my hobbies. That is, if my job will allow me to even fulfill my hobbies :p

Time to be on the lookout for deals now. Need a mainboard and a few minor MR-015 chassis pieces. :rolleyes:

well, all the ones I race.

I do have a board that I took out of my son overland, I wouldn't feel right about selling it though, it has a problem with the servo adjuster and won't allow you to adjust the car to go straight. I had given up on it, hence changing it out for mine when I did my upgrade.

Sent you a PM about your 015 parts.

arch2b
2008.12.15, 08:41 PM
all of mine are now 2.4 but when you have 5 or so, it really makes sense in terms of ease fo use and funtionality. unless there are 40 some other cars around, i never had to worry about frequency again which is really worth the cost to me and main reason why i did it.

it's a big bullet to bite so really think it through if you do.

MINIz guy11
2008.12.15, 08:59 PM
Too big of a bullet for me to take.

I'm not enough of a competitive racer to be racing with 40 cars around, I'll be in my basement training for those days. Plus, when the time comes, I could just buy an invisible band at my LHS, I won't really mind the jitters.

EMU
2008.12.16, 12:32 PM
The MR02 board only needs to have the servo wires lengthened and the crystal adapter resoldered on the top of the board to work for the OL... The main board itself is the same. I have used a few OL boards in MR02's.

xrayminiz4life
2008.12.16, 12:56 PM
hi guys, i'm new to the overland scene, so i'm lost...i get my overland tomorrow, and i want to put one of my plastic model bodies on it...when i started with mr02 racing mini-z i was told there were some must have's, like bearings, a new motor, and adjustable rear diff...what are the must's for an overland?...also, do they make a lift kit? any help would be appreciated....

MINIz guy11
2008.12.16, 06:24 PM
Yea, I need the crystal adapter resoldered on the other side, which I wouldn't want to do. I don't feel confident about that and am worried about ruining another board.

briankstan
2008.12.16, 07:31 PM
Yea, I need the crystal adapter resoldered on the other side, which I wouldn't want to do. I don't feel confident about that and am worried about ruining another board.

soldering the crystal holder would be one one of the easiest things to solder on a Mini-Z board

MINIz guy11
2008.12.16, 07:53 PM
Stop giving me excuses to not buy another board to make another car run :p In the end, this MR-02 board is going into a MR-02 chassis to make a modified car (board works fine with a Woah Nelly Evo installed).

Anyway, I'm thinking of trying to resurect one Overland board which hasn't worked since last year for unknown reasons. Going to try to resolder everything on again.

One more question though. What guage wire is used for the servo motor and pot? I've been using the wires inside a telephone wire, but it seems to thin to conduct enough electricity properly.

briankstan
2008.12.16, 07:58 PM
I use a 28 gauge stranded wire, it needs to be a flexible wire or it will just wiggle and break with use.

MINIz guy11
2008.12.16, 09:09 PM
Alright, thanks a lot Brian!

Also, what seems wrong with this board?
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m191/MINIzguy/Overland/A005-1.jpg
There was some burning from previous solder jobs.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m191/MINIzguy/Overland/A001-1.jpg
Took a screwdriver and scraped off the charred PCB
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m191/MINIzguy/Overland/A003.jpg

Also, where would I go about finding non-bulk lenghts of 28AWG Wire?

briankstan
2008.12.17, 08:14 AM
not sure on the board, I have 2 boards that have issues I couldn't figure out.

Give the hobby shops in your area a call, I found the wire at a shop that specializes in Trains. and it was pretty inexpensive. ($6) for all I needed.