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bmxtrev
2009.01.11, 06:51 PM
In general, which wheebase configuration do you find yourself using the most?

dvsstrike
2009.01.11, 08:10 PM
i use the 98 the most. the 94 is too finiky but works reak well on a small tight track. never tried 96. 98 suit more my style as it is the most stable everywhere on the track.

JacobFeinstein
2009.01.11, 09:07 PM
The 96mm setup has been the quickest combination Cristian and I have tried. It retains the qualities of both 94 and 98 but delivers them in a happy medium. It truly is the best of both.

Here's a link to our setups from the World Cup:

http://reflexracing.net/Fastest_cars_PNWC08.asp

MantisMMA
2009.01.11, 11:18 PM
2nd that! 96 is incredible, especially with the 350z and the mclaren

Tjay
2009.01.12, 01:29 AM
96mm...

Although I haven't had a time to test these product, it was proven at the Worlds.

Maybe I'll try it tomorrow on my 2 hour Monday night practice. :)

Rune
2009.01.12, 04:08 AM
98mmm with RR side damper for us on regupol.
96mm is also very good, but seems to soft. One step harder would be awesome.
The car is very stable, but lacks some turn-in, and on throttle steering compared to 98mm with side damper. On a less grippy track I would assume it is better with 96mm.

TheRinger
2009.01.12, 09:41 PM
I set up my open class car with reflex 96mm T-plates and wide track front end with a 575GTC body and I like it so far, doesn't push as bad and still very stable. But as far as the poll question I perfer 94mm.

bmxtrev
2009.01.12, 10:02 PM
interesting comments so far!

joey
2009.01.12, 10:16 PM
i usually run 94mm(360GTC), i do have a 98mm car setup(DBR9) for me 98mm isnt as fast as 94mm on my local track but everyone have a diffrent feel for there setups..

-J-
2009.01.26, 06:55 AM
What do you do as far as bodies are concerned when running a 96mm setup?

Felix2010
2009.01.26, 07:23 AM
98mm with Reflex's Side Damper + Kyosho oil shock is really excellent, so my vote is 98 MM. Wicked rear grip with hard t-plates.:cool:
I have been trying RR's 96 t-plates and they are really nice also. There has been nothing but praise for these from what I've seen. The fact that 96mm killed at last year's PNWC says these things work. If Reflex comes out with a Side Damper system for 96mm that performs like their 98mm unit, then I think 96mm is going to be tops.:)

JacobFeinstein
2009.01.26, 05:12 PM
What do you do as far as bodies are concerned when running a 96mm setup?

The 2007 350Z has been hands down the best body for 96mm so far, it just needs to be cut out slightly to fit the 96mm wheelbase.

-J-
2009.01.26, 06:44 PM
The 2007 350Z has been hands down the best body for 96mm so far, it just needs to be cut out slightly to fit the 96mm wheelbase.

Oh okay. This is the first I've heard of 96mm setups. I'll have to try it out.

ruf
2009.01.27, 07:57 PM
96mm is also very good, but seems to soft. One step harder would be awesome.
The car is very stable, but lacks some turn-in, and on throttle steering compared to 98mm with side damper. On a less grippy track I would assume it is better with 96mm.Lucky guy with the Regupol... We just got in our latest batch of 96mm plates, and we've made them one step harder. Just for you. :)

Just kidding. We noticed that on grippy RCP, we wanted a little harder t-plate as well. Whereas the first run of the plates was medium and soft, these will be hard and medium. Enjoy!

Rune
2009.01.28, 03:06 AM
Lucky guy with the Regupol... We just got in our latest batch of 96mm plates, and we've made them one step harder. Just for you. :)

Just kidding. We noticed that on grippy RCP, we wanted a little harder t-plate as well. Whereas the first run of the plates was medium and soft, these will be hard and medium. Enjoy!
Hehe:)
Great! I will definetly try these.
BTW. How about a 96mm sidedamper setup. Any news?
BR
Rune

CristianTabush
2009.01.28, 02:22 PM
It's in the works, but it will be a while...

Ibrake Ifry
2009.01.28, 08:49 PM
i definately use 94mm the most as i love the agility but when i have tried 96mm i did gain some stability although like someone else it would be nicer with a harder version. Maybe i will order some soon since i broke the soft one and the medium one got tweaked while i was travelling :( mini-z's + plane luggage=tweak!

cazcade
2009.01.29, 03:11 AM
98mm all the way! We run on regupol tracks with foam tires using both side damper systems and the more common dps.

94mm doesnt work for us at all. The cars are to flimsy and difficult to control.
Havent tried 96 mm. It might work on our track.
102 mm works fairly ok. The cars are stable but sluggish.

Our track: www.svedmyra-racing.blogspot.com

Jace1283
2009.02.11, 10:26 PM
mr02 - i was 98mm, then went to 94mm, now im going back to 98mm eventually, mount is coming inthe mail. may give 94mm one more shot. the stability of 98 gets me more laps than twitchy 94. its not just the wheelbase, motor is flat at 98mm, cant beat that

Cherub1m
2009.02.17, 10:14 AM
I started out with 98mm then tried the 94mm for a while, unfortunately I could not get the same lap times with the 94mm has with the 98mm. What I did like with the 94mm was it handle acceleration much better but what I did not like with it was it wasn't has stable has the 98mm and believe it or not initial steering was less with the 94mm (radius of turn was tighter with the 94mm). What I noticed with the 98mm if I ran Red PN springs on both the lower and upper damper, I was able to power through the turns much better without oversteering (like the 94mm), and if I needed a little more steering on power I would use the Green PN springs on the bottom, I found the Blue PN springs gave it to much steering on power (for the 94mm Blue PN spring all the way on the bottom damper to get that on power steering and Red PN spring on top damper to get it to turn fast coming into the turn). I still enjoy driving both but I still prefer the 98mm due to stability and being more consistent.

I haven't tried the 96mm yet. I guess I'm worried if I like it I will go manic and start dremelling all my cars.:D

CristianTabush
2009.02.18, 12:31 AM
If you haven't tried 96mm wheel base on your MR-02, hold on to your shorts... Rumors are that 96mm AWD is even beter!

Cherub1m
2009.02.18, 11:47 AM
If you haven't tried 96mm wheel base on your MR-02, hold on to your shorts... Rumors are that 96mm AWD is even beter!

Oh my :D. 96mm AWD!!! Thank you for not forgeting the MIGHTY AWD.

Tjay
2009.02.18, 01:13 PM
2wd/98mm/2005 NSX/PN lay down motor pod= easy to drive, stable on the on/off power sweeper and straight-aways but... It felt a bit sluggish inside the chicane.

2wd/94mm/Lex SC430/ATM Ver5 motor pod= nimble, super fast inside the chicane, fast in back to back transision but... felt more like a point and shoot car.

Finally! I was able to run Reflex Racing's 96mm H-Plate and man... This car felt like my 98mm NSX on the straight-away. I'm able to hold my line during on-power steering on an arching/hooking turns. My off-power steering acts almost the same as my 94 but less aggressive. The car is just stable and super easy to drive. It's almost like driving a real car... Super fast infield and stable!!! I really like this set-up. I seriously can't believe why I haven't tried the 96mm before although CT gave me a set months ago... I didn't know it would be this much of a difference!

lfisminiz
2009.02.18, 03:09 PM
Glad to hear that TJ. I have the 96MM plates awhile too....time to slap them on and test them!;)

ruf
2009.02.18, 07:35 PM
Cherubim - Just try it... It's worth the Dremel time! :D

98mm doesn't turn in hard enough and tends to dirt track on exit.
94mm turns in great (a little too aggressive for some), but the rear is WAY too planted on exit, especially with the latest PN motor mount.

96mm is the balance between the two. Turns in nicely so you can carve under someone on entry. But also steers controllably on exit so you can "finish" the corner without pushing or sliding out. Overall it has a neutral balance of stability and agility that neither 94mm or 98mm have.

As for the AWD... ;)

Tjay - thanks for the kind words!

lfisminiz - I can't believe you haven't tried them yet... :eek:

lfisminiz
2009.02.18, 08:04 PM
Joe, your right.....i have them long enough;). Now that i have the version 2, im really ready. I prefer harder plates on most of my cars.

lfisminiz
2009.02.24, 10:02 PM
OK Joe, i hope your happy:D, i tried the 96 plates on 2 of my cars, 1 with wider off-set rims and 1 with narrower off-sets, OK, OK, OK....im digging the handling already.;) They do feel planted and precise.:)

ruf
2009.02.26, 01:32 PM
Good to hear! :D

kyoshosan
2010.03.22, 07:57 PM
Is there a better list of body lenght, i mean, more up to date than this one:

http://www.atomicmods.com/Categories/QandA-1-28-Mini-Z-Body-Compatibility-Chart.aspx

Also, on this list i couldn't find on 96mm body ?

blt456
2010.03.22, 08:47 PM
96mm is developed by reflexracing.net. It is an extremely good product and I'd urge everyone I could to try it.....it has steering, grip and response of 94mm but with a added stability...therefore there are no "96" bodies.

EMU
2010.03.22, 11:11 PM
That may be the most recently updated list. I did one a while back, but dont have the original file to update...

Also wanted to mention that Atomic has recently released a 96mm motormount (for use with MM t-plates on MR015/02/03). I just received 4 of them :)

kyoshosan
2010.03.23, 07:41 PM
This brings the question of which bodies are best for the 96mm ?

EMU
2010.03.23, 07:51 PM
Right now I am using the McLaren F1 LM with good results... I want to try a few others soon.

blt456
2010.03.23, 10:01 PM
I use the 2007 350z GT500 body and my car is very stable.. I've tried it with a 360gtc too (no setup change) and it was very good as well.