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JuniorWKR
2009.01.16, 11:42 AM
Has anyone out there had any success with running the countach body for this chassis... or any recommendations for what is believed to work the best...

EMU
2009.01.16, 05:41 PM
I ran the LP400 for a little while, as did one of our fastest racers. It drove very well, for a 90mm body. It is very light, agile... but tends to snag the boards if you barely graze them.

I won a decent amount of races with the body, and have been thinking about trying it again in a 94mm MM configuration.

I am currently using a f355, as is Sai... We both feel that the f355 is the best 015 body either of us have used, which is a lot. I used the 350z for a pretty long time, as well as the Chrysler 300. Those bodies are some of the better performing 015 bodies as well. Many bodies work well, for the 015 class.

Cherub1m
2009.01.16, 06:50 PM
Eugene

the F355 is a 90mm car right? you like it better than the 94mm 350z? Have you tried the Ferrari 512BB and the Ferrari Dino?

I am currently trying out the Ferrari Dino you can put some very wide offset fronts for some increased stability and zero wide rears. Only draw back so far is its 90mm

The 350Z I am still experimenting with. Plan on converting some 0 off set wide rims to -1 off set wide rear rims. The -1 wide rims will just fit without sticking out of the rear wheel wells and come about a 0.5mm or less away from the spur gear without rubbing :D Yessss me and my dremel are begining to bond :D

EMU
2009.01.16, 07:13 PM
355 is a 90mm body, but I run it in 94mm MM config.

I have tried the 250GTO, which is also a 90mm body... never tried the Dino, but it looks like it has similar overhangs to the 250. Should be good, but not as good as the 355. The 512BB is low on my list. It has too long of a front overhang, and very sharp corners.

I use 1N/0W on my 355. I tried -1mm wheels on my 350Z before, when I used to use the Kyosho Stock motor. I could barely fit them, and had to shave the inside of the right wheel so that it doesnt rub the spur (i used a gear diff at that time), as well as quite a bit of the wheel wells for clearance. In the long run, I preferred the way that the narrow rear wheels felt with the 350Z than the wides. After moving to the PN 70t, I felt that a slightly wider body would run better. The 350Z is still on my top 5 bodies to choose for this class, but it really depends what type of track conditions are present.

The Chrysler 300C is the most winning 015 class body at Action RC. It has won the most championships, as well as trophy races. I just dont think that the body fits my driving style, and feel that it is too long and narrow, having a larger turning circle than I would like. It would be my #3 choice, but is a little easier to setup than the 94mm setups.

flat 4
2009.01.16, 08:21 PM
I did use the Cuontach for a little while, I got my first win in it. It is very light and handles pretty well. But it will high light eny of your mistake's. I have been every happy runing my 934 insteed of it. the 934 has been very good to me the body is on its second season.

Cherub1m
2009.01.16, 09:15 PM
355 is a 90mm body, but I run it in 94mm MM config.

I have tried the 250GTO, which is also a 90mm body... never tried the Dino, but it looks like it has similar overhangs to the 250. Should be good, but not as good as the 355. The 512BB is low on my list. It has too long of a front overhang, and very sharp corners.

I use 1N/0W on my 355. I tried -1mm wheels on my 350Z before, when I used to use the Kyosho Stock motor. I could barely fit them, and had to shave the inside of the right wheel so that it doesnt rub the spur (i used a gear diff at that time), as well as quite a bit of the wheel wells for clearance. In the long run, I preferred the way that the narrow rear wheels felt with the 350Z than the wides. After moving to the PN 70t, I felt that a slightly wider body would run better. The 350Z is still on my top 5 bodies to choose for this class, but it really depends what type of track conditions are present.

The Chrysler 300C is the most winning 015 class body at Action RC. It has won the most championships, as well as trophy races. I just dont think that the body fits my driving style, and feel that it is too long and narrow, having a larger turning circle than I would like. It would be my #3 choice, but is a little easier to setup than the 94mm setups.

Hi Eugene

Thanks for the info. The 015 class at MHS is specific you have to run the body has is, basically 90mm body you run a 90mm chassis, 94mm body 94mm chassis and so on and wheels/rims cant stick out of the wheel wells and any dremeling is to the inside not seen on the outside and no lexan windows. But we have a twist any stock motor that will run on stock am pcb(excluding atomic stock R)

I wanted to try the 250 gto but could not find it.

I saw the 512BB run its was amazing its fast and its true 94mm.

EMU
2009.01.16, 09:48 PM
The Lamborghini Miura/Jota should be good... I like it except for catching the rails on the front end.

Cherub1m
2009.01.16, 10:03 PM
The Lamborghini Miura/Jota should be good... I like it except for catching the rails on the front end.


Is the Jota a 94mm or 98mm? and what are the offsets?

Man I just tried the wide -1 offset on the 350z fairlady it handle the power so much better then the narrow (running a speedy 07).

EMU
2009.01.16, 10:08 PM
If I remember correctly, the front offset is 1.5N, and rear is 3W. I used 1N/1W when I set it up. It is 94mm.

SaiTam
2009.01.21, 11:07 PM
F355 Baby!

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k_bojar
2009.01.21, 11:48 PM
F355 Baby!

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well that answers my PM :)

Skv012a
2009.01.22, 01:34 AM
I want to add that a stock Z33 does very well in my opinion. Being able to scrape out of a minor wall-hit is IMO just as important as most other factors when choosing a body. Noticed that many other cars with ok-ish fronts have the dreaded lips that demolish your chances of quick recovery, like R34 or FD3S.

Does anyone try to adapt to a car they like rather than find the "best" to race?

JuniorWKR
2009.01.22, 10:36 AM
Is the Jota a 94mm or 98mm? and what are the offsets?

Man I just tried the wide -1 offset on the 350z fairlady it handle the power so much better then the narrow (running a speedy 07).

My skyline shilloutte came in last night... its a 94mm with 0 offset front and back but wide in rear... bady is very low and wide... i will be racing it tonite... will post outcome...

JuniorWKR
2009.01.22, 01:57 PM
My skyline shilloutte came in last night... its a 94mm with 0 offset front and back but wide in rear... bady is very low and wide... i will be racing it tonite... will post outcome...

Heres a sneak peak...

http://minizracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26529&stc=1&d=1232650638

SaiTam
2009.01.22, 02:03 PM
I have the Silouhette but never wanted to use it. Not sure how the long front bumper will do on the track. There are two models of the Silouhette mine is different than yours. I think the car is 90mm not 94mm can you confirm?

http://www.mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26530&d=1232650988

JuniorWKR
2009.01.22, 02:07 PM
I have the same one but never wanted to use it. Not sure how the long front bumper will do on the track. There are two models of the Silouhette.

http://www.mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26530&d=1232650988

yeah i have the nissan PDC version... the front bumper looks to be pretty strong considering... but i think it will be ok because it should act more like the pan car in a front end collision... more of a scoop than a direct hit... if not it has a great spot underneath to create some form of bracing...

okoye
2009.01.22, 02:29 PM
those super silouette skylines are amazing both of them are truely works of art

JuniorWKR
2009.01.22, 02:40 PM
those super silouette skylines are amazing both of them are truely works of art

YES THEY ARE... good thing im not one of those guys who doesnt believe in running them... no trailer queens here...

okoye
2009.01.22, 02:46 PM
all mine are lowered with wide rims and ive been looking for the ones you have for a while.. i race mine no beauty queens well they kinda are seeing as ive become quite skilled with my new chassis lol..got lots of practice on my lowered overland

TALLGEESE
2009.01.22, 08:36 PM
My skyline shilloutte came in last night... its a 94mm with 0 offset front and back but wide in rear... bady is very low and wide... i will be racing it tonite... will post outcome...

I've always been a huge fan of all the different versions of the Super Silhouette.. I'm curious to see how the Silhouette performs under racing conditions.. So I'm eagerly awaiting to hear how this body did for you.. The only thing I wish Kyosho had done was to offer the earlier "Skyline Group C" version of this body with the wider, flatter rear wing in the back along with the lower cabin/roofline, here's a pic...

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9236/skylinegroupc1kz1custommv1.jpg

Skv012a
2009.01.26, 12:11 AM
Did anyone with a DDS try a Trueno? If it doesn't flip, it could be a neat body to run IMO.

EMU
2009.01.26, 12:42 AM
Its ok, but flips pretty easily. Could be pretty competetive with the right setup and track conditions. Is also a little heavy...

Skv012a
2009.01.26, 12:45 AM
My current goal is to basicly learn basic and advanced tuning via 15 and bodies of my choice- probably FD and AE atm, maybe the 934 as well.

JuniorWKR
2009.01.26, 10:58 AM
I've always been a huge fan of all the different versions of the Super Silhouette.. I'm curious to see how the Silhouette performs under racing conditions.. So I'm eagerly awaiting to hear how this body did for you.. The only thing I wish Kyosho had done was to offer the earlier "Skyline Group C" version of this body with the wider, flatter rear wing in the back along with the lower cabin/roofline, here's a pic...

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9236/skylinegroupc1kz1custommv1.jpg

well the body seemed very stable and had tons of steering... the only problem i had is that the rear kept kicking out due to the amount of weight on the front of the body... i run a mid mount low cg on my 015 and i feel that this car would run its best as a rear mount... it would probally be planted... i just didnt have the mount nor the time to try it before we started racing... i will have to due some more testing with a rear mount and see what happens..

JuniorWKR
2009.01.30, 10:09 AM
Well after hours of tuning, experimenting and guessing i beleive im headed in the right direction... The car now feels like a 02 and is currently riding on rails... my next step to making this car more competive is to start sheading some pounds... It currently weighs in at 191 ready to race... im currently bouncing back and fourth between the speedy 07 and atomic stock but after seeing some of the guys running the AD im gonna give that one a go and see if the car can handle it...

JuniorWKR
2009.01.30, 12:09 PM
i took some really nice pics last night but didnt realize that the camersa resolution was set to high... i will redo the pics tonite and post them for comments and advice...

TALLGEESE
2009.01.30, 02:26 PM
i took some really nice pics last night but didnt realize that the camersa resolution was set to high... i will redo the pics tonite and post them for comments and advice...

Can't wait to see the pics as I'm curious to see your setup.. What wheel offsets are you running up front?

JuniorWKR
2009.01.30, 03:13 PM
Can't wait to see the pics as I'm curious to see your setup.. What wheel offsets are you running up front?

0 narrow up front and 0 wide in rear... though ive heard of alot of guys running -1 wide in front to help with stability... im gonna give that a try next...

Skv012a
2009.01.30, 05:35 PM
How does using wide fronts compare btw? I've been curious but haven't had a chance to try it myself yet.

JuniorWKR
2009.01.31, 10:53 PM
How does using wide fronts compare btw? I've been curious but haven't had a chance to try it myself yet.

it creates a larger foot print up front and aids in stability... it is a very nice touch as many use this technique in pancar...

JuniorWKR
2009.01.31, 10:58 PM
skyline shillouette...

http://minizracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26586&stc=1&d=1233460635

http://minizracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26587&stc=1&d=1233460643

http://minizracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26588&stc=1&d=1233460655

JuniorWKR
2009.01.31, 11:05 PM
my set up for the skyline shilloutte...

http://minizracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26589&stc=1&d=1233460813

http://minizracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26590&stc=1&d=1233460830

http://minizracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26591&stc=1&d=1233460844

Im currently running yellow springs up front with the tallest stops... im using 2 degrees of camber... for front rubber im running aw40 grooves with crazy glue on the sidewalls and ran slightly over the edge onto the surface area

for the rear im using the pn rear mount... im using the atomic dps set up... im using medium springs top and bottom on the dps... for rear rubber im running kyosho 20 degrees treaded...

EMU
2009.02.01, 02:32 AM
Junior, how do you like that DDS? I was never able to get mine to work properly a couple years ago when I tried it. Parts are now on my 2nd F1. . . with a PN motormount.

bermbuster
2009.02.01, 08:38 AM
Junior, how do you like that DDS? I was never able to get mine to work properly a couple years ago when I tried it. Parts are now on my 2nd F1. . . with a PN motormount.

I just installed one as well. Im liking it. Right now it is set for a 94mm wb.
I just ordered a 90mm rear motor pod from atomic so I will be able to run my Ferrari F355 with no body alterations. +2n in front and +1w in rear.
This may be my Atomic stock set up...for the upcoming 2009 races.

JuniorWKR
2009.02.01, 11:01 AM
Junior, how do you like that DDS? I was never able to get mine to work properly a couple years ago when I tried it. Parts are now on my 2nd F1. . . with a PN motormount.

now that i have it working i love it... i came to the realization that you have to run a very thick oil on the discs in order to slow it down... i use the #2 oil that is used for 12th scale and now the car rides on rails... no trueing down tires to bologna skins... no shims... no weights no nothing... just run the car and it is on rails... very impressed with the setup right now... feels like and 02...