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Traveler
2009.02.13, 11:22 PM
The new 33T and 35T PN Motors and Armatures are FINALLY Here! :)

You know where to look. Check 'em out!

tudor_47
2009.02.18, 01:51 AM
yep!

please let us know how they perform..

EMU
2009.02.18, 08:55 AM
This should be the same motor that we used for the PNWC (33t) . The motors were smooth, good torque, good top end... run cool. Almost feel like a Speedy 07 on sterroids... It feels linear.

My Motormaster shows a little over 1A current draw. I made the 10 minute mains driving aggressively with batteries that had a discharge capacity of around 800mah. If I conserved, and ran less warm up laps, it could probably go 15 minutes. Much better than the Anima II.

Rune
2009.02.18, 09:15 AM
Can these be used on a standard ASF board?

Skv012a
2009.02.18, 10:50 AM
Can these be used on a standard ASF board?
2nd that question.

Also, how much faster would these be compared to speedy 07 or Kyo x speed? It sounds like a great next step if my stock 2.4 board can handle these fine.

Cherub1m
2009.02.18, 12:54 PM
Can these be used on a standard ASF board?

2nd that question.



3rd that question.

Also, was this the same motor they used for the AWD? If not what did they use for the AWD?

briankstan
2009.02.18, 01:06 PM
I'm running the Modified motor from the PNWC (vegas race) in my pan car with a stock 2.4ghz board. I'm running 9/52 (64 pitch) gearing.

Tjay
2009.02.18, 01:47 PM
19/29 Gearing on my AWD MOD at PNWC in Vegas. I like the motor, smooth and fast. Cooler? Maybe. I can't tell. Any motor I popped on my awd gets hot. ;)

EMU
2009.02.18, 02:10 PM
The Anima II was rediculously hot. I melted off at least 6 pinions at the PN regional, and fried a 2.4 board... PN and Grant were icing their motors before the races... with the new PNWC motor, mine was as hot as a Speedy 07bb after a run.

I used stock 2.4 boards for both mod 2wd and pan without a problem. I think I used 10/52 for pan and 11/52 for mod... I think 10/52 was better.

Traveler
2009.02.18, 04:26 PM
This should be the same motor that we used for the PNWC (33t) . The motors were smooth, good torque, good top end... run cool. Almost feel like a Speedy 07 on sterroids... It feels linear.

I agree with EMU. Was on business in LA last week and stoped by Kenon for the first time. The new motors were not in yet, but I did get a PNWC 33t motor which is the same motor. Been driving it for a week and really like it.:)

An ASF board should be fine, although I am running it on an ASF board with an extra layer of FETs, so a 2x3.

Traveler
2009.02.18, 04:30 PM
The Anima II was rediculously hot. I melted off at least 6 pinions at the PN regional, and fried a 2.4 board... PN and Grant were icing their motors before the races... with the new PNWC motor, mine was as hot as a Speedy 07bb after a run.

My Anima II was running super hot too. Come to find out there was some binding in the can. Broke it down, cleaned, adjusted the spacer and now it runs much less hot.

Rune
2009.03.01, 06:56 AM
I finally got to test the 33 turn in my MR02 yesterday.
Gearing 10/53. It is so smooth. In comparison with ATM AD stock it is a bit faster, and has a bit more torque.
Compared to the Stock-R it is as fast, but much more drivable. I really like the powerband on this motor.
R1Wurks batteries. The temperature on the motor after 10 - 15 minutes of runtime was surprisingly low.

AFMiniz
2009.04.22, 11:03 AM
What gear combo your guys use for 33T in AWD?

Skv012a
2009.04.22, 01:28 PM
I'll guess the middle or the next one up aka 4th ratio /7 available or 5th.

CristianTabush
2009.04.22, 10:34 PM
Big Track 18-20/31, Medium Track 16-17/31, small tracks DO NOT USE :P (you will actually go slower around the track)

eztuner12
2009.04.22, 11:22 PM
This should be the same motor that we used for the PNWC (33t) . The motors were smooth, good torque, good top end... run cool. Almost feel like a Speedy 07 on sterroids... It feels linear.

My Motormaster shows a little over 1A current draw. I made the 10 minute mains driving aggressively with batteries that had a discharge capacity of around 800mah. If I conserved, and ran less warm up laps, it could probably go 15 minutes. Much better than the Anima II.

:eek:WOW!!! That is excellent output. It provides more run time than the ATM T2.
Is that on the 2wd or 4wd car???
Thx for the info Eugene.
Cheers

eztuner12
2009.04.22, 11:25 PM
Big Track 18-20/31, Medium Track 16-17/31, small tracks DO NOT USE :P (you will actually go slower around the track)

Hi Cristian
Please, what would you recommend for 4wd?
Thx;)
Cheers

EMU
2009.04.23, 12:00 AM
Hi Cristian
Please, what would you recommend for 4wd?
Thx;)
Cheers

Those are AWD ratios :p

I ran the Z2 and my PNWC 33t Pan car handout in different MR02s this past weekend. Both had similar power and discharge. Z2 had a little more torque on the top, but both felt very linear and had similar top speed. I geared them identically as well (10/52).

I ended up getting the win with the PN in my Pan car, and DNF'd with a tire off on my mod 2wd (GTR body). Both cars had similar setups; same motormount, differential, DDS, Reflex WTF, bearings and diff balls...

I have yet to use one in an AWD... but I may try it soon.

Richard,
You may be comparing your runtime in an AWD on a small track where you do alot of acceleration, where my runtime is in a 2wd on a large track where you do more coasting around the corners and carry more speed. So I dont think runtime would be much different than the T2. I would recommend the 35t for the AWD instead of the 33t.

AFMiniz
2009.05.16, 06:17 AM
I tried 33T on AWD, I geared it up to 19/31 for a better end speed (before I used stock R at 18/31). I would comment it is a torque motor. Hard to imagine 35T needs to gear up to what level.

bamaboy379
2009.06.08, 12:55 PM
I'm gonna get the 33 turn motor for my AWD soon:D;):)

ZicZicZoom
2009.06.09, 12:19 AM
How is the stock R compared with the PN mod 33t?

EMU
2009.06.09, 12:42 AM
Stock R has more mid range torque, 33t is very smooth and linear. Not as much torque, but more RPM. You would gear the Stock R up higher than the 33t. 33t feels like a Speedy 07 with more RPM, Stock R has more kick when you get on the throttle. Depending on your driving style, and preference, each motor has its benefits. I like the 33t more than the Stock R. I like the Z2 more than the 33t. It feels similar, but has more power accross the band, and a little more drag brake. On a smaller track, I would prefer the 33t to the Z2.

eztuner12
2009.06.09, 11:26 AM
Good valuable info Eugene, thaxxx…:):)

So the PN 33T would be you numero 1 choice on short technical tracks, over the ATM T2 and PN 35T?
Won't the PN33T get hot?

Keep in mind, I run an 4wd.

Thank you!

Cheers;)

EMU
2009.06.09, 01:07 PM
On an AWD, the PN 35t may be a better choice for a smaller track. The AWD can handle more torque better than the 2WD. I like both the 33t and the Z2 for my driving style. Higher grip, I would go with the Z2, lower grip the 33t. Chili just doesnt have the drag brake that I want. I havent used the 35t or the T2.

ZicZicZoom
2009.06.09, 07:25 PM
Good valuable info Eugene, thaxxx…:):)

So the PN 33T would be you numero 1 choice on short technical tracks, over the ATM T2 and PN 35T?
Won't the PN33T get hot?

Keep in mind, I run an 4wd.

Thank you!

Cheers;)

well i think that as long as u have bearings a smooth drivetrain and a good heat sink that u will be find with the heat just be sure to watch and see how fast it gets warm so u dont overdo it during a race or something