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dabinn
2009.03.05, 06:29 AM
Don't know how to post video here, please check the youtube link below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSRYLtDyPPQ

This "I.C.S. Setting Box" is a small device that can be connected to MINI-Z or dNaNo, setting up I.C.S configuration without computers, and it supports all ASF/dNaNo and AD Band systems.
This project is under developing and nearly completed. The video shows how it works on a circuit emulator.

byebye
2009.03.05, 07:54 AM
That's pretty interesting. Subscribed.

Kris

mk2kompressor
2009.03.05, 10:21 AM
i just bought a new ics kit :rolleyes:
keep us updated

HaCo
2009.03.06, 05:25 AM
Very nice!!

Skv012a
2009.03.06, 09:50 AM
IF you're gonna sell these, any estimate on the price? Or how hard would it be to homebrew?

dabinn
2009.03.06, 01:17 PM
IF you're gonna sell these, any estimate on the price? Or how hard would it be to homebrew?

I think the price would be below 30USD if I sell these in my country (I'm from Taiwan). If you are interesting in having one....Maybe I should start to think about how to sell something overseas. :D

To homebrew, the circuit is not complex, but it works mostly based on the software part and need to write some program for handling the communication protocol of I.C.S..

Ronac
2009.03.06, 02:51 PM
From your video, this looks like its got its own screen. Is it going to be a stand alone module? So we don't have to bring our laptops if we want to change our settings at the track?

rc_bam226
2009.03.06, 03:57 PM
I was wondering if its going to come pre-assembled in kit, or we can assemble it on our own. Looks great in the demo program.

dabinn
2009.03.06, 05:44 PM
From your video, this looks like its got its own screen. Is it going to be a stand alone module? So we don't have to bring our laptops if we want to change our settings at the track?

Yes,no need of laptops.:D

dabinn
2009.03.06, 06:02 PM
I was wondering if its going to come pre-assembled in kit, or we can assemble it on our own. Looks great in the demo program.

I havn't think about this yet.
Though there are'nt much components to assemble, but pre-assembled in kit may be still safer.

arch2b
2009.03.07, 12:09 AM
please let us know if you decide to produce/sell these. i am interested in one.

Skv012a
2009.03.07, 12:14 PM
I would even say that if you can make a USB one for under $30 I'd love to get that as well. Using PC seems pretty good too since you can see everything at once.

rc_bam226
2009.03.07, 01:10 PM
I would even say that if you can make a USB one for under $30 I'd love to get that as well. Using PC seems pretty good too since you can see everything at once.

I'll agree with you on that, the KO version of the software comes up on a dinky UI with some of the features in english, but then in the dialog box, comes up as gibberish. I wish they could improve the design. :(

dabinn
2009.03.07, 02:49 PM
I would even say that if you can make a USB one for under $30 I'd love to get that as well. Using PC seems pretty good too since you can see everything at once.

I've made a rs-232 version before, and it's very easy to connect to PC USB port via a "RS-232 to USB" adaptor. If you prefer using PC to setup, I can post a tutorial about how to make this by yourselft. Total cost of the components is under $5 only.

Ronac
2009.03.07, 02:56 PM
A tutorial would be great! What about the program though?

Would we just use the same one that comes with the Kyosho ICS?

rc_bam226
2009.03.07, 03:06 PM
I've made a rs-232 version before, and it's very easy to connect to PC USB port via a "RS-232 to USB" adaptor. If you prefer using PC to setup, I can post a tutorial about how to make this by yourselft. Total cost of the components is under $5 only.

That tutorial would be great.

As far as the program is concerned, has anyone tried to make a homebrew version of the ICS software?

Skv012a
2009.03.07, 10:07 PM
I looked at screenshots and such and it doesnt look that bad, but that cable is NOT $80. I'd love a tut on how to make one!

dabinn
2009.03.08, 12:44 AM
A tutorial would be great! What about the program though?

Would we just use the same one that comes with the Kyosho ICS?

Yes, same Kyosho/KO ICS software will be used. In fact, the conntection line is just a clone version with the Kyosho/KO one with some modification.

Ronac
2009.03.08, 12:48 AM
http://www.minizracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29870&highlight=ics+asf

I looks like CCL has done something similiar before. Where would you buy the plug that goes into the car?

Theres 3 wires that goes to the RS 232 connector, which 3 pins from the connector goes to the car?

dabinn
2009.03.08, 01:02 AM
That tutorial would be great.

As far as the program is concerned, has anyone tried to make a homebrew version of the ICS software?

I'll post the tutorial later(maybe tommorow?), because I am still busy dealing with the setting box now.

Write a ICS software for PC is possible, but I think that may not be nessessary. Kyosho/Ko version works fine, although they looks ugly:D

dabinn
2009.03.08, 01:27 AM
http://www.minizracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29870&highlight=ics+asf

I looks like CCL has done something similiar before. Where would you buy the plug that goes into the car?

Theres 3 wires that goes to the RS 232 connector, which 3 pins from the connector goes to the car?

The plug for mini-zs is a standard 1.5mm pitch connector. I buy them on a nearby store, if you can't find where to buy, try http://www.digikey.com .

The one in the pics which CCL posted is selled in Taiwan about $15, much cheaper then a kyosho one, and is mostly the same with my homebrew cable.

You can't connect those pins to PC directly, There is a small circuit in the calbe to deal with some conversion, I'll show that latter in the tutorial.

z3zinho
2009.03.10, 04:07 PM
This seems like a nice project... Since I haven't got a cable yet it's going to be hard to try and figure it out, but since I have some time, why not try and burn one of my brand new boards?!? :D

ruf
2009.03.10, 04:34 PM
Alberto - KO will have their handheld programmer card available next week. Email Cristian about it.

dabinn - looks like an awesome project. I've got a Microchip Technology PIC programmer I've been playing with, but haven't gotten very far with.

z3zinho
2009.03.10, 05:36 PM
Ill talk to Cristian about that, i hope he already has the cable for me :rolleyes:... but for now i'm still working on my 'RS232 to TTL converter' ;)

dabinn
2009.03.11, 02:11 AM
Alberto - KO will have their handheld programmer card available next week. Email Cristian about it.

dabinn - looks like an awesome project. I've got a Microchip Technology PIC programmer I've been playing with, but haven't gotten very far with.


I think you'll have lots fun on PIC chips :D

dabinn
2009.03.11, 02:33 AM
I'm sorry, guys. I found I have no time to write a tutorial for the ICS cable right now, for I am still working hard with the ICS setting box. Hope I can complete this project sooner.

Skv012a
2009.03.12, 08:58 AM
Good luck and don't rush. We can wait to save ourselves 70$ :D

dabinn
2009.03.17, 07:34 PM
New pics:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/3364164778_5af44f2c4c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dabinn/3364164778/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3586/3363342687_948c93f451.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dabinn/3363342687/sizes/l/)

LED
2009.03.18, 07:33 AM
just a post to keep track of this thread. Love to get my hands on one to>
Nice job

*edit* Do you have a part number for the little white connector ?
I've been looking on the site you gave in a post above but I cant find it.
Do they sell the RS232 cable you mentioned there to ? Got a number for that to ?

Thx and keep it up. We are all excited about your project.

Skv012a
2009.04.13, 01:17 AM
Hey dab, I'm still very anxious for you to post a tutorial on making the PC cable. Please try to since you said earlier that its very easy.

LED
2009.04.13, 04:52 AM
I send him a pm early last week but he didnt respond.
To late now, spend some money and bought the thing.

Skv012a
2009.04.13, 04:12 PM
I'm just not pressed about owning this for 80$, but otherwise it would be very neat.

dabinn
2009.04.14, 05:21 AM
hello guys,
I post a tutorial of ICS cable here:
http://www.minizracer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=343662

saaboteur
2009.12.16, 09:15 AM
How far is the progress of this project? Is it finished and would be the schematics of the circuit board available?