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Programmers
2009.09.10, 01:49 PM
I've been trying to get my AWD lighter over the last week and in making it lighter it has developed stability issues.

Without body or batteries, but still with the antenna and body clip, mine weighs in at 102.6 grams.

It would be great to see what everyone has theirs at so I can get a ballpark figure on a sensible weight.

Thanks in advance!

MantisMMA
2009.09.10, 07:51 PM
mine is 193g with everything, light weight AWD's seem jittery to me too, i would rather have them a little on the heavy side and more stable.

Skv012a
2009.09.10, 10:52 PM
I've been trying to get my AWD lighter over the last week and in making it lighter it has developed stability issues.

Without body or batteries, but still with the antenna and body clip, mine weighs in at 102.6 grams.

It would be great to see what everyone has theirs at so I can get a ballpark figure on a sensible weight.

Thanks in advance!

I had a thread or two about this, try to search for it. It was definitely for MRs, but might have been for MAs as well.

Only found my RWD project, but with my old weight of 185 grams (probably a little over 190 with the front diff). http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31456

Eman
2009.09.11, 02:10 AM
Mines weighs in at 103 grams. Same config as yours. With body (R-34 Calsonic) and batts its at 203. I'd say your in the ballpark. And yeah I noticed a handling difference. I can't remember what I did to make it better but I do know it likes worn ATM Grooved 40's in front. I agree with Mantis. I like a heavier car. I have a modified car that weighs in at 123 grams, 222 with body (Gzox 350) and batts. I like the way it drives. Its fun but a handful with all that power. My favorite weighs in at 120, 215 with body (Enzo Test) and batts. I really like the way it goes around the track. Not as quick as the Gzox but real easy to drive. Its 98mm wb so maybe its not all about the weight.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/willis67017/Mini%20Z/DSCI0009.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/willis67017/Mini%20Z/DSCI0021.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/willis67017/Mini%20Z/EnzoTest9.jpg

Programmers
2009.09.11, 04:30 AM
mine is 193g with everything, light weight AWD's seem jittery to me too, i would rather have them a little on the heavy side and more stable.
Yeah, I know what you're saying. However, I am hoping to overcome this for a better car in the long run... As I said... "hoping".

We'll see how it goes on the HFAY boards!

I really like the way it goes around the track. Not as quick as the Gzox but real easy to drive. Its 98mm wb so maybe its not all about the weight.
That's interesting. I've heard a lot of positive feedback regarding 98mm AWD's...

Old Crow
2009.09.11, 08:48 AM
Alot of this has been covered before, I find alot of what's been said here to be true. There does seem to be a point that, at least for me, a AWD can be too light, and cause performance issues. I usually don't like the weight to be lower then 194g total grams(body, batteries, transponder). Also I've found the lighter you go, the wider you should go, narrower seems to run better with weight. I do feel 98mm is better for stability and ease of driving, I have been using 94mm lately with some success. Bodies for the AWD should "wrap" around the chassis, and be low slung.(Enzo, SC430, NSX, ect.). That being said, everyone is different in what they want to feel and how they drive.

MantisMMA
2009.09.11, 01:11 PM
all of you REALLY need to try 96mm, it changes the game totally!! you get the best of both WB's!

Programmers
2009.09.11, 03:28 PM
What bodies are 96mm?

TannerT
2009.09.11, 03:51 PM
Kyosho doesn't produce 96mm bodies that I know of. I think you have to dremel a 94mm body to fit a 96mm wheel base.

Programmers
2009.09.13, 11:26 AM
Ah right, okay then.

dvsstrike
2009.09.18, 07:48 PM
i rather have my awd on the heavier side also mine weighs at 198 loaded