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J-Milz
2009.12.28, 09:16 PM
Action RC in Staten Island is having their Winter Nationals on 2/27/10. Its up to us (the racers) to decide the third class. here is a few of the favorite choices.
1. Monster / OL
2. Pan Car 70t / Stock class motor
3. AWD Pan Car
4. F-1
5. trailer race ( gotta tow something)
6. LM class
7. 90mm Bettle / mini cooper
8. Helicopter
9. Nascar
10. Drift

tommy_greeneyes
2009.12.28, 09:25 PM
Action RC in Staten Island is having their Winter Nationals on 2/27/10. Its up to us (the racers) to decide the third class. here is a few of the favorite choices.
1. Monster / OL
2. Pan Car 70t / Stock class motor
3. AWD Pan Car
4. F-1
5. trailer race ( gotta tow something)
6. LM class



i think
Pan Car 70t / Stock class motor :D

ActionRC
2009.12.29, 11:09 AM
I like the idea of an LM class also. Lots of bodies available - unpainted and Autoscales!

Scrapper
2009.12.29, 11:24 AM
drift tokyo style oh yeah

JeremyC
2009.12.29, 11:41 AM
What are the classes that are sure to run?

Scrapper
2009.12.29, 12:14 PM
narrow body stock, and wide body stock

CDR racing
2009.12.29, 05:15 PM
Narrow Body Spec(not stock) and wide body stock

tommy_greeneyes
2009.12.30, 12:13 AM
I like the idea of an LM class also. Lots of bodies available - unpainted and Autoscales!

LM class be cool. al go for it. which motor will you use.:D

J-Milz
2009.12.30, 02:01 AM
My 1 cent:
The winter nationals is a one day event, so there should be a class that is not usually run on a normal bases. We are currently running Nascar, so that should be eliminated. F1, and Renault was the previous series that was run. So I think the interest in those classes are limited. I'm guessing, Pan car should most likely be the next series to follow Nascar, and may run during the time of the Winter Nat's. So, again we can possibly eliminate that as well. Those looking to run LM can run that body right now during the stock series. That leaves us w/ 90 mm beetle / cooper, spec class, drift and my personal favorite Monster / OL in which we ran at the last Nat's, and was a favorite among many (except those who didn't run, and did the marshaling). My other request is a show and shine competition, where a trophy is awarded for the best Mini.
.....and, I would love to see an LM class 3 hr. enduro event in the future with headlights, etc. Ala Rolex 24 hrs. :)

ActionRC
2009.12.30, 10:49 AM
I have been thinking lately about making each week after the conclusion of a points series an enduro night. They are so much fun, and in my opinion, the longer the better. I also like creating races within races, like teams, class winners, timed sections, etc. I think we'll start enduros this after this series. I love the idea of an LM body enduro because it would look so realistic, but the headlight thing was tough when we tried it because you couldn't see well in the pits, although the new place might be more condusive to this since one light switch actually shuts the lights right over the track, and the rest could stay on. Finally - one electrical feature of the new place that actually worked out well! :D

minittrackmann
2009.12.30, 10:56 AM
I think we should do a Speedy 07 Pan car class. PN pan car body only. And everyone should have to use the same tires.

Say
Kyosho20 radials rear

PN 8 slick up front

Any tires that works for everyone. This will give everyone an even chance. You will really need to no setup skills and the winner of that class truely will have to be a good driver. I feel this will make new drivers faster as well, running nearly the same setup as the faster guys!

JeremyC
2009.12.30, 11:25 AM
I think we should do a Speedy 07 Pan car class. PN pan car body only. And everyone should have to use the same tires.

Say
Kyosho20 radials rear

PN 8 slick up front

Any tires that works for everyone. This will give everyone an even chance. You will really need to no setup skills and the winner of that class truely will have to be a good driver. I feel this will make new drivers faster as well, running nearly the same setup as the faster guys!

I like Pan Car + Speedy 07, but open tires.

tommy_greeneyes
2009.12.30, 08:47 PM
I like Pan Car + Speedy 07, but open tires.

i 2nd that, that be cool , one fast class:D

JeremyC
2009.12.30, 10:59 PM
i 2nd that, that be cool , one fast class:D

Speedy 07 or Seedy 07 BB?

PN Pan Car or any make? I'd vote for open..

EMU
2009.12.30, 11:35 PM
I think it would be more fun with the ATM stock motor ;) A little more drag brake is welcome at those speeds. Whatever is decided, is fine with me :)

Body choice would be good, they have different handling dynamics. The ATM pan body has a lot more steering and is lighter, but is a little more edgy on the same setup. The PN body is more durable (much more durable). So what you decide to do, the faster car or the one that will last the race, is up to you :p

JeremyC
2009.12.31, 12:01 AM
I have been thinking lately about making each week after the conclusion of a points series an enduro night. They are so much fun, and in my opinion, the longer the better. I also like creating races within races, like teams, class winners, timed sections, etc. I think we'll start enduros this after this series. I love the idea of an LM body enduro because it would look so realistic, but the headlight thing was tough when we tried it because you couldn't see well in the pits, although the new place might be more condusive to this since one light switch actually shuts the lights right over the track, and the rest could stay on. Finally - one electrical feature of the new place that actually worked out well! :D

Al,

LM body would look cool, but for those of us with 1 chassis, not ideal. I don't have much interest in building up an LM car.

But I would love to do an enduro! If you do decide to do this make sure you post it with some advance warning for us non-regulars :)

-Jer

minittrackmann
2009.12.31, 10:50 AM
So a open body pan car class. And the atomic stock motor!

Lets do it Al!

ActionRC
2009.12.31, 02:43 PM
Great ideas, everyone. Jeremy makes a good point about the difficulty of switching over to the LM rear, although if the third class required the plastic rear, and say, X-Speed motors, that's a cheap upgrade to 102mm. Maybe the third class for the Winternats should be Pan car Speedy 07BB, but the Series third class should be LM w/ plastic erar and Kyosho LM bodies? (I like this if we use Jamil's philosophy of doing something different from the normal third class, but I would do Pan Car for Series and Nats if we don't want to have to build and set up new cars.) We'll all talk about it Saturday. At this point, the easiest thing to do for everyone would be to run Pan Car for both - many of us have an extra car at this point, and the ML rear that most of us have works perfectly in a 98mm pan car.

Happy New Year everyone!

Scrapper
2009.12.31, 03:46 PM
drift drift drift drift

EMU
2009.12.31, 04:34 PM
If I use a standard 98mm mount, with a ML damper, then I can very easily switch between 98 and 102mm. It isnt LM, being that LM has a longer diff and wider mount, but should fit under the LM bodies with 3mm offset rear wheels. The DDS plate is also a little higher, but nothing that my trusty friend; dremel cant fix.

I dont have any LM mounts or diffs, got rid of them a while ago... so that would require getting a new mount and diff if we were to do an LM spec. At which time I would opt not to further pursue the class, and run something that I have more of.

I think that the LM class should be restrictive in body and wheelbase only. Chassis, mount/diff, wheel and tire choice should be left to the driver. This will make it a little more cost effective, since almost all 98mm setup cars should be able to run 102mm wheelbase with little changes (possibly only damper plate).

J-Milz
2009.12.31, 09:32 PM
I like the idea of running a "fun" less competitive class for the third class. If pan car is gonna be the next series class, then I don't seen the fun of running it again in the Winter Nats. As far as LM class, most people will likely convert their current NASCAR body car, slap a LM body, change the wheels and tires. Yawn!!! I kinda like the monster /ol class because the fast guys weren't that fast, and it gave others a chance to take a photo with the pretty lady. This is a Semi-annual race and it allows us to dust off the "fun" class cars for once. Besides the enduro idea at the end of the point series race is great!!

EMU
2009.12.31, 09:56 PM
Since there are still people that use MR015 in Nascar... The porsche 962 cannot accomodate an MR015 chassis. The Mazda can with slight modification. Dont know about the Sauber body...

JeremyC
2010.01.01, 12:11 AM
I am digging the Pan Car 07BB class.

I don't think I fully understand the classes and entries though. There is narrow and wide. I have an MR-02 and I assume that means I have to run 'wide'. Right?

EMU
2010.01.01, 12:28 AM
Wide is standard MR02 width or wider. Basically any body that is a 2.4mm offset on an MR015/MR03 narrow/AWD.

You can use an MR02 in the narrow class with the PN MR015 width conversion if you want.

Or you can use an MR015 in the wide class with an EMU track width conversion ;)

Narrow uses either box stock or PN 70t motor with any chassis that uses a narrow configuration. You cannnot use an MR02 with standard width with negative offset fronts...

Its a little confusing at first, but I think its a good balance. The smaller cars are a blast to drive, and are usually close to the same laptimes as the wide cars despite usually having a slower motor.

CDR racing
2010.01.02, 12:43 PM
I am digging the Pan Car 07BB class.

I don't think I fully understand the classes and entries though. There is narrow and wide. I have an MR-02 and I assume that means I have to run 'wide'. Right?

I know its a little complicated but hopefully I can help.
Wide body used to be our 02 Stock class, and Narrow used to be our 015 Spec class, but since the 03 came out we couldn't call it 02 and 015 anymore. So Wide Body you can run any logical chassis(no F1 or overland obviously). So in wide body stock you can run an MR-02, AWD, 015(with EMU tower bars), and MR 03 as long as they all have the wide front end. Narrow Spec includes 015 in its normal narrow set up, 02 with the PN narrow tower bars, 03 in narrow set up and a narrow AWD. All Narrow cars have to run box stock or PN 70 turn motors. I know its a little confusing if you weren't there when we changed it to see the progression of the classes, but I hope this helps!

ActionRC
2010.01.05, 11:02 AM
Thanks guys. You can also go to the website and click the RULES tab, and see the official rules, but Crop and Eugene summed it up really well. (I love having such well versed, knowledgable customers!)

Also, as I said in the other post about the Winternationals, please keep all discussions in the original Winternationals post if possible. (The original has "Winternationals" as one word.) We now have 4 threads about the 'Nats, and I think if it we stay in one spot we'll keep track of the duscussions better. Thanks! (I also don't want to be accused of monopolizing this forum, which I am not, nor have I been, but better to avoid even the possibility of this discussion or thought popping up! :) )

ShortBus
2010.01.05, 11:17 AM
here are my choices:

1) PN Pan Car with Speedy07 (open tires)
2) 90mm Mini Cooper
3) Losi Micro-T Stadium Trucks

jackg
2010.01.05, 11:29 AM
Pan Car Pan Car

danny250r
2010.01.07, 11:03 PM
overland/monster with jumps an whoops :D

J-Milz
2010.01.08, 11:14 AM
Great choice!!

overland/monster with jumps an whoops :D

Scrapper
2010.01.08, 11:19 PM
i regret to inform you that i wont be able to make it as my robotics team has a meet that weekend up in mass

ActionRC
2010.01.09, 01:50 PM
PLEASE go back to using the original "Winternationals" (one word) post!

Davey G
2010.01.12, 06:18 PM
Where do I vote the 3rd class? I thought somewhere on here there was an area that we can vote????

ActionRC
2010.01.14, 12:53 PM
Dave - We're just discussing it in the Winternationals (as one word) thread. Too many threads about the same topic, so we're keepig it in one thread. Hope you can make it! - Al

PLEASE USE THE AFORMENTIONED THREAD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE WINTERNAT'S. THANKS! - Al

J-Milz
2010.01.19, 02:26 AM
Administrator, this thread was started in error please close.