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ocean rodeo
2010.02.02, 12:06 PM
I finally after months of waiting bought a home. This is going to be my rc haven. I really like the realism of Regupol tracks especially the one's I have seen over in Europe, but RCP is nice because it's the standard track for mini-z. So my question is which would you choose and should I build up a table for it or keep it on the flo? This is what I have to work with. 16X25
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss152/tommysal/CIMG4695.jpg

RCPMini-z
2010.02.02, 01:22 PM
I like RCP. It gives you more flexibility to change the layouts and lane widths as often as you like. Not sure that Regupol tracks offer this. I do admit that I have seen some awesome tracks that used Regupol or similar rubber surfaces. I think you can make a much more scale looking replica using Regupol or similar surface, but not sure how flexible the railing would be to change the layout. I think all tracks get boring after awhile if you run the same layout over time. What type of railing or barrier method are you thinking to use with the Regupol?

ocean rodeo
2010.02.02, 03:15 PM
I was going to use plastic duct races. I was going to replicate one of these two.
The first track is Regupol the second is Masonite I think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrDYsvFHMs4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ETqt-Ke0vA&feature=related

RCPMini-z
2010.02.02, 03:35 PM
Both the tracks from the youtube links above look great. If you are looking for a permanent layout that you don't plan on changing, than I would go with one of these layouts or something similar. I would build it on a platform 18" ~ 24" tall. This is the best height for Mini-z track layouts. I would also do some kind of custom lighting above the track. Makes the track look better with some spot or trac lighting to highlight specific areas. If you do a bridge, put it in the back and install lighting under it to brighten up the lower track area.

ocean rodeo
2010.02.02, 03:41 PM
Yeah they are awesome. Changing layouts is little tedious but I like building things. The lines are just white tape and the grass is for train sets. Both of which is cheap. I would like to build up a scale abu dhabi grand prix track with the hotel and all but thats really shooting for the stars:D

Action B
2010.02.02, 03:44 PM
If you are going to race competitively or want to run the HFAY online point series for fun then you want rcp.

I would put RCP for that reason.

ocean rodeo
2010.02.02, 03:57 PM
If you are going to race competitively or want to run the HFAY online point series for fun then you want rcp.

I would put RCP for that reason.

This is just for my enjoyment. There is no place to race mini-z here in South Florida anyway.

EMU
2010.02.02, 04:17 PM
I feel that RCP is too restrictive with layout design. On top of that, it is pretty bumpy, even on a smooth surface. The grip is not as consistant... That being said, I would go with RCP. As said earlier, it is much easier to lay out, and change the setup. However, I would lay out blank tiles, and make my own inner borders. Which gives you more space to work with, and you dont have the restrictions of the modular track. If you lay plywood under it, you could just nail (or screw) the borders through the track, and it shouldnt really hurt the surface. Just dont change layouts too frequently...

cosmicsoul
2010.02.02, 06:02 PM
16 x25 is plenty of room to get creative with RCP. You can easily go 8 tiles wide within 16 feet and have room to stand if you decide to go 25ft long about 14 tiles. That is a healthy size track. My track room is only 12 x 24. I can only go 7 tiles wide which does not allow me to run any HFAY configurations, oh well. Being able to go 8 tiles wide gives you many more possibilities. I would say go RCP!

ocean rodeo
2010.02.02, 06:36 PM
I feel that RCP is too restrictive with layout design. On top of that, it is pretty bumpy, even on a smooth surface. The grip is not as consistant... That being said, I would go with RCP. As said earlier, it is much easier to lay out, and change the setup. However, I would lay out blank tiles, and make my own inner borders. Which gives you more space to work with, and you dont have the restrictions of the modular track. If you lay plywood under it, you could just nail (or screw) the borders through the track, and it shouldnt really hurt the surface. Just dont change layouts too frequently...

Thanks EMU for you reply I didn't even think of using just blank tiles. I think I am going to go this route. I will be able to make my own configuration and still have the RCP surface. Very cool:D

ocean rodeo
2010.02.02, 07:02 PM
I went out and got a exact measurement of the actual space for the track and it comes out to 12X22.

PridgeoK
2010.02.02, 09:29 PM
If you're just shooting blanks (bad pun :p), then they sell them in kits of blank RCP in 25 and 50 packs - look in the shop list here at TinyRC and you'll track 'em down easily. Kind of nice having that border of RCP rails though.

But you know, if we're being hypothetical here...plan for the future and do both! ;) Just have some plywood set aside that you can lay down over your permanent track (with strategically placed supports or brackets, perhaps) and put the RCP on top of that when you want to do some modular tracks like HFAY.

Kev.

leonen
2010.02.03, 11:04 AM
They both look awesome. but as others said, they're permanent layouts. You could do something similar to what real racetracks do, and have multiple layouts on the same track by opening/closing certain sectors. We do that at our club, so we very the layout every week, or every month, because it's really easy and we don't get bored.


But you could emulate something like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7AWWXvU7Mg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E-IC8H6J30

It's a nice track. Obviuosly you have much more space and can think of something better.

ocean rodeo
2010.02.03, 06:35 PM
Ok. I just ordered 2 wide L's to start. I kinda want to keep along the lines of track standard. I can always build a scale track in the future.

ocean rodeo
2010.02.07, 11:22 AM
Well I ordered the L's and didn't realize I didn't have enough space to combine the two. So I switched to a mini-96. I will be buying 2 expansion kits and large radius turns. Does anyone have a set up like this? I am trying to maximize the space I have and I would like to know how much track I can cram into a 12X22 space and what I would need. Pics will help alot. Thanks, Thomas

yasuji
2010.02.07, 11:33 AM
u definitely need to elevate the straightaway!if u raise the straightaway you can increase ur infield alot!like this one!
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=371966#post371966

ocean rodeo
2010.02.07, 12:24 PM
Cool thanks Grant.

hrdrvr
2010.02.07, 12:50 PM
Thanks for pointing him to our track G! Ive been meaning to come on here since I saw the thread, but neglected to get back to it....

Anyway, Ive exchanged PMs with ocean rodeo, and hopefully can lend a hand with some ideas that will help maximinze the space! Elevating our track really has done a lot for the amount of RCP we could use in our space. We went from cramming in 4 wide Ls to having plenty of space for upwards of 6 along with more wide radius corners and expansion tiles to speed up some sections. Our toughest layouts used to be around 8-9 seconds. Now I can put down brutal 15 second tracks :D The old ones averaged 6-7sec, and now we run 9-11sec regularly.

I hope our place can be of inspiration to lots of people to try out elevations. Not only does it utilize the space, but I feel it makes for a much more natural and realistic racing experience!

hrdrvr
2010.02.16, 12:24 PM
I just PMed something to OR, but figured I post some of it here for the public, in case any one else is interested in duplicatig what weve done with our track.

You can see here the brackets for mounting to the wall, and the lighting I used for seeing under the overhang.
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/Track%20room/IMAG0070.jpg

The brackets are slightly sloped which helps visibility on the straght, and blocks the light better from the bulbs below. It also adds some camber to the turns coming on and off of the straight.

You can see on the inlcines I tried to blend the ramps at the top and bottom to try and keep the transistions as smooth as possible. This is VERY important IMO, as too many people end up giving up on the elevations because the transitions are too rough. Having sharp transitions unsettles the car big time, coming up, and going down.
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/Track%20room/IMAG0071.jpg

Even on the secondary platforms we built, I tried to blend the tops and bottom with a slight curve.
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/Track%20room/IMAG0077.jpg

At first I buit two types of tables. A couple were ramps, but the majority were just tables. They fit together in different configurations to have variety of turns in relation to the transition.

With flat apex.
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/Track%20room/IMAG0075.jpg

With transitioning apex.
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/Track%20room/IMAG0074.jpg

Straight transition.
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/Track%20room/IMAG0076.jpg

I have since built a differnt type of incline that isnt as versitile, but a little smoother. I also have about 3 different sized tables that get used in different scenarios depending on the layout and the space available.

The frames were built out of plywood strips and covered with blue insulation foam. The foam is great to keep the frames lightweight, but some thin plywood probably wouldnt add much weight, and would be a little more durable.
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/Track%20room/IMAG0073.jpg

Mine are holding up fine. I just have to re-screw the foam down every now and then, or lately, Ive just been duct taping it down. I found some black duct tape, so its not even really noticable.

LMK if youve got any questions, or if I can provide any further information.

ocean rodeo
2010.02.26, 05:13 PM
Hey guys just want to post up my new track. Finally! If you live in South Florida and want to come by for some laps just PM me. I am going to eventually elevate the straight and add some more tiles to push everything underneath. Once I get everything together I am getting a lap timer, but for now this is great.:D
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss152/tommysal/CIMG4711.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss152/tommysal/CIMG4709.jpg

EMU
2010.02.26, 07:19 PM
Nice choice with the default layout for the Mini-96 (I know track is 50cm tile)... Its a great starting layout. Can you fit another tile towards the wall on the left of the first pic?

What car are you using with the track. I would probably use a narrow body with slower motor (70t or ATM USA) on a track this size. Thats just my preference.

ocean rodeo
2010.02.26, 07:30 PM
Thanks EMU. Nine wide fits perfectly. Right now I am running my Sauber with a PN70. I also can fit three more tiles lengthwise. I figure each week I'll rotate to the tracks that are on the HFAY site.

briankstan
2010.02.26, 08:27 PM
glad to see that you got things worked out. your space is just perfect for the 2 wide L setup. :)