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civilian
2010.04.23, 09:25 AM
this is my tryout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiJHIyVaKGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svph295-430

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwTfkBFxdUU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDzNJ6D_TlE

something still wrong.
my cars can't go straight.
always turning at higher speed.
anyone can help?
:(

Jonah
2010.04.23, 09:37 AM
whats your diff setup?

ChiMiniRc
2010.04.23, 10:14 AM
I was wondering about this too. Is it best to have a one-way or locked diff in just the front or just the back?

civilian
2010.04.23, 10:54 AM
whats your diff setup?

solid axel in rear
balldiff in front


I was wondering about this too. Is it best to have a one-way or locked diff in just the front or just the back?

well, depends on drivers...
my friends who drive 1:10 only put oneway or balldiff in front.
they always put solid axel [locked diff] in rear.

Jonah
2010.04.23, 11:54 AM
i would suggest for the front have the regular stock diff and in the rear have a locked diff. that should work.

color01
2010.04.23, 07:05 PM
If you're running the "countersteer setup" the 1/10 drifters have popularized (rear end is geared faster than front end), then there is no solution for going in a straight line -- you're physically not supposed to be able to go straight.

If you want to go straight AND have countersteer, you'll have to 1) set the gearing back to a normal configuration and 2) turn your front diff into purely a viscous coupling. That way you can actually have the car going straight once you've got it settled down, but applying power will cause the rear wheels to break traction first (the front wheels receive less power).

civilian
2010.04.23, 10:14 PM
If you're running the "countersteer setup" the 1/10 drifters have popularized (rear end is geared faster than front end), then there is no solution for going in a straight line -- you're physically not supposed to be able to go straight.

If you want to go straight AND have countersteer, you'll have to 1) set the gearing back to a normal configuration and 2) turn your front diff into purely a viscous coupling. That way you can actually have the car going straight once you've got it settled down, but applying power will cause the rear wheels to break traction first (the front wheels receive less power).

well, i already do before, but the countersteer isn't really visible...

like seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiJHIyVaKGM

it can go straight.

after make rear diff faster, it become like 2nd, 3rd and 4th attempt.
can't go straight, but it's very2 good countersteer!
any solution sir?
and why the 1:10 can do what "we can't" do?
coz of the weight?
balance of the 10th scale?
motor position? as i remember the TT01 almost the same motor position like the Z AWD.

color01
2010.04.24, 02:15 PM
The 1/10 boys can't go straight either using the "countersteer setup", this is well documented. They just have to drift left and right down a straightaway, or attempt to go as straight as possible through rapid corrections (the size and weight makes this easier vs. a 1/28).

At least with the viscous coupling setup, you can physically go straight if you're careful with the throttle. :)

civilian
2010.04.24, 04:10 PM
The 1/10 boys can't go straight either using the "countersteer setup", this is well documented. They just have to drift left and right down a straightaway, or attempt to go as straight as possible through rapid corrections (the size and weight makes this easier vs. a 1/28).

At least with the viscous coupling setup, you can physically go straight if you're careful with the throttle. :)

how to make it smaller for 1:28?

color01
2010.04.24, 07:37 PM
I'm not sure I understand your last question, but here is how I do viscous couplings for the Mini-Z AWD:

http://tinyrc.com/forums/blog.php?b=115

You can of course add weight to your countersteer-setup AWD to make it more manageable, but this will put an increased load on your motor, which makes it hotter and makes runtimes shorter (just keep it in mind, it's not crucial).

civilian
2010.04.25, 02:06 AM
I'm not sure I understand your last question, but here is how I do viscous couplings for the Mini-Z AWD:

http://tinyrc.com/forums/blog.php?b=115

You can of course add weight to your countersteer-setup AWD to make it more manageable, but this will put an increased load on your motor, which makes it hotter and makes runtimes shorter (just keep it in mind, it's not crucial).

THANKS!
i'll give a try a.s.a.p!

civilian
2010.04.26, 07:47 AM
not working...

addicted
2010.04.26, 10:17 AM
you are too heavy on the steering adjustments, so can't really telling if it's counter-steering or not to be honest

civilian
2010.05.24, 12:31 AM
you are too heavy on the steering adjustments, so can't really telling if it's counter-steering or not to be honest

heavy?

you just don't get it on the countersteer drift i think...