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lfisminiz
2010.05.10, 09:30 PM
Robert/KO. Can you post some info on the EURUS............

English instruction manuel.
Tips on settings as they pertain to 2.4(02), 2.4(03), 2.4(03 board into the 02 chassis).
:)

KO PROPO Staff
2010.05.11, 09:52 AM
Robert/KO. Can you post some info on the EURUS............

English instruction manuel.
Tips on settings as they pertain to 2.4(02), 2.4(03), 2.4(03 board into the 02 chassis).
:)

English instruction manual in PDF has not been released by KO Japan.
Settings for the Eurus would be the same as the ASF boards that we have posted to our site.

WSR
2010.06.24, 07:24 AM
Robert/KO. Can you post some info on the EURUS............

English instruction manuel.
Tips on settings as they pertain to 2.4(02), 2.4(03), 2.4(03 board into the 02 chassis).
:)

Robert sent me this fantastic description of the functions and their purpose. This might be a bit elementary for you but I hope it can help other newbies out there as it did for me. Thanks again to Robert and the whole KO family for putting out this amazing product. See below

-------------Email From Robert at KO-------------


MD (Model Menu)
SELECT - Select the model memory number that you would like to use.

NAME - Create or alter the name for the current model memory that you are using.

COPY - Copy a model memory number to another model #.

RESET - Reset the current model # to factory default settings.

D.P. Format - Format the optional model memory expansion so that you can use it. If it is not plugged in, you won't be able to format. This item is sold as an option.

ST (Steering Menu)
TRIM - Set the trim for the steering to make the car go straight while in operation.

TRAVEL - This setting will allow for the maximum steering movement left to right.

BALANCE - Allows you to set the end points (how far the steering should move) for the left and right. This should be set correctly so that you don't put too much stress on the steering servo and damage it.

SUBTRIM - allows you to center the servo. If you put a servo horn on the servo and it is not at center, you should use this function to get it to center.

TRIMRATE - Allows you to set the rate at which the TRIM will move. Smaller number will create less movement in the trim.

SPEED - Allows you to set the speed at which the servo moves. You can assign two points in the steering throw to set the speed. You can set the turn speed and the return speed for the steering.

PUNCH - Increases the initial movement of the servo from center.

CURVE - Changes the speed of the servo exponentially. Positive number increases the initial reaction, slows the speed as you approach the steering endpoint. Negative number will decrease the initial movement, speed up the speed as you approach the steering endpoint.

REVERSE - Reverse the throw of the steering servo.

DualRate - This is mainly used for oval racing. This is the similar to the Travel & Balance function but an over-ride of the two functions. Once you assign the KEY (either to an ET lever or Button) and set whether you want it to toggle or act as a push button function, you can assign a new Travel and Balance function. So as you are driving you press or push the assigned key and this will over-ride your settings for the current Travel & Balance and use the DualRate settings.

TH (Throttle Menu)
TRIM - Same as the steering trim function but for the throttle.

HPOINT - Sets the throttle end point.

BRAKE - Sets the brake end point.

SUBTRIM - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

TRIMRATE - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

SPEED - Similar to the steering speed function but for the throttle. You can set three points in the throttle travel to move at different speeds. This is for the initial movement and the return movement.

PUNCH - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

CURVE - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

REVERSE - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

NutBrake - Allows you to set up neutral brake (or drag brake) for the throttle. You will have to assign this to a key and set the action to be push or toggle.

AutoStart - Allows you to set up the throttle to a preset position once the trigger reaches the set % of the throttle trigger movement. Can be set for electric cars for a quick start.

ABS - Allows you to set a pulse action to the brakes for better braking.

ACCEL - Allows you to set up pulse to the throttle.

IDEL UP - When assigned to a key, will allow you to move the throttle forward or back. Mainly used for gas cars.

OP (Option Menu)
CH3 & CH4 - Allows you to set mixing of the steering or throttle to either channel or set positions for these channels.

RSP - Response modes that you can set the transmitter to NORM (Normal) is the slowest response (8.0ms), HSP (High Speed) is the next fastest response (6.0ms) and ADV (Advanced) is the fastest response (4.0ms). When a non-digital module is connected the response speeds are slower. The digital mini-Z module speed is fixed and can not be altered. The non-digital mini-Z module will allow you to change the response speeds but will not be faster then the digital module, only slower.

[INPUT] with sub functions
Setup - Allows you to check and assign the ET levers and buttons to any function that you want.

AdjustVR - This is to reset and calibrate the potention meters (steering & throttle) in the transmitter. Volume refers to the volume restister or potention meter.

AutoRep - change the LCD scrolling speed.

PowAlrm - set the alarm if the transmitter is not used for X minutes. Good reminder if you left your transmitter on.

LED - Assign LED to flash when certain functions are being used.

CONTRAST - Adjust the LCD contrast

B.Light - Set the LCD backlight

Title - Display a function in the first menu screen
[ ] - If a digital module is inserted, the module will be displayed. Non-digital module will be left blank.

Buzzer - Assign a sound to a function.

CustomTone - Create your own sound or ring tone.

StopWatch - Stop watch feature.

Down Timer - Count down timer function to let you know if your runtime is finished.

If you are using this for the 2.4GHz mini-Z, you should use the settings that are posted. These are recommended for all 2.4GHz mini-Z's and is a good starting point. Not all mini-Z's will be the same due to the servo and motor used.

WSR
2010.06.24, 07:26 AM
Robert/KO. Can you post some info on the EURUS............

English instruction manuel.
Tips on settings as they pertain to 2.4(02), 2.4(03), 2.4(03 board into the 02 chassis).
:)

Settings from the KO website

When setting up your 2.4GHz Kyosho Mini-Z with any of our supported KO brand transmitters, you will need the following settings.

Set the steering Travel to 70 or 70%.
Set the steering Balance to NO MORE then 70%.
Set the throttle High Point to 60.
Set the throttle Brake to 60.
DO NOT use the Quick Steering or Quick Throttle Response found in the EX-1 UR transmitter.
These settings for your transmitter will help to ensure that you 2.4GHz Mini-Z will operate correctly.

monkey19
2010.06.24, 07:32 AM
WSR- thanks for this very helpfull

WSR
2010.06.24, 07:34 AM
WSR- thanks for this very helpfull

Anytime man, After many nights of bashing my head against the wall trying to figure this thing out I figured I might as well ask the manufacturer. Im glad I did. Good luck with it.

chad508
2010.06.28, 08:08 PM
i just got a euros and im guessing you do not have the same dual rate function as the helios. i cant seem to get it to work like the helios. im assuming its more like the ex1 where you have to adjust left and right balance separately. this is more like my 3pk was but ive gotten to use to the helios. if im wrong pls let me know

KO PROPO Staff
2010.06.30, 08:06 PM
chad508-
The dual rate function is the same as the Helios "Travel". It is assigned to the ET4 lever just like the Helios.

EPA (End Point Adjustment) or as we like to call it "Balance" is also the same as the Helios. The short cut to this function is to hold the steering wheel full lock in the direction that you wish to adjust and hit the ET1 lever to set the end point for that direction. This short cut works for both the Helios and the Eurus.

WSR-
You are welcome and hoped that it helped to explain a lot that the manual was lacking. KO Japan has released the manual in pdf for download on their site (http://www.kopropo.co.jp/sys_e/archives/category/technicalguide/download/manual-download-technicalguide).

-Robert

chad508
2010.06.30, 08:57 PM
after looking at my radios side by side again you are correct. what i was calling dual rate was travel. but one thing i do see different on eurus is if i set travel to lets say 70 and i adjust travel on et4 it changes the travel up are down. but on the helios it changes it in a % of the 70. so on the helios if travel is set to 70 and i adjust the travel with the et4 button 100% is 70 were 50% would be 35 is this correct?

KO PROPO Staff
2010.07.07, 05:44 PM
after looking at my radios side by side again you are correct. what i was calling dual rate was travel. but one thing i do see different on eurus is if i set travel to lets say 70 and i adjust travel on et4 it changes the travel up are down. but on the helios it changes it in a % of the 70. so on the helios if travel is set to 70 and i adjust the travel with the et4 button 100% is 70 were 50% would be 35 is this correct?

Yes the % has been removed as some users have requested this be changed due to if they want more travel (meaning more then 100% of the initial setting). Same for the brake high point setting as well.

vesahyp
2011.03.25, 02:20 AM
chad508-
The dual rate function is the same as the Helios "Travel". It is assigned to the ET4 lever just like the Helios.

EPA (End Point Adjustment) or as we like to call it "Balance" is also the same as the Helios. The short cut to this function is to hold the steering wheel full lock in the direction that you wish to adjust and hit the ET1 lever to set the end point for that direction. This short cut works for both the Helios and the Eurus.

WSR-
You are welcome and hoped that it helped to explain a lot that the manual was lacking. KO Japan has released the manual in pdf for download on their site (http://www.kopropo.co.jp/sys_e/archives/category/technicalguide/download/manual-download-technicalguide).

-Robert

The link doesn't work anymore. Can you dig out an updated link, pretty please?

moz
2011.03.26, 01:25 AM
Yes the % has been removed as some users have requested this be changed due to if they want more travel (meaning more then 100% of the initial setting). Same for the brake high point setting as well.

Hello KOPropo Staff :)...If I ON the dual rate for the eurus the et4 will be the % like the helios?Is this correct?Thx...

KO PROPO Staff
2011.03.30, 12:27 PM
vesahyp- KO Japan changed the English site and you can find the downloads here (http://www.kopropo.co.jp/sys_en/support/download).

moz- No, there is no % anymore. Just number value.

monkeyZ
2011.04.04, 08:52 PM
Are the settings from the sticky post valid for the Eurus? I am asking because if I set the controller to have these settings then the steering servo does not travel to the actual end points of it's travel. The throttle also does not drive the motor to full throttle with these settings. If I set it to 60 it is not the full motor speed, but if I put it to a higher setting you can tell the motor is going faster just by the sound of the motor.

lfisminiz
2011.04.04, 09:20 PM
I have the Eurus since it came out. I have 03 boards in all my cars (03s, 02s, AWD, F-1). The settings are definitly higher to get the correct steering/throttle to work right.

monkeyZ
2011.04.04, 10:06 PM
I have the Eurus since it came out. I have 03 boards in all my cars (03s, 02s, AWD, F-1). The settings are definitly higher to get the correct steering/throttle to work right.

Good! I am not going crazy.... or am I! Love the feel of the Eurus so far only have about 20 laps on it, but the steering response is amazing. Money well spent!

Mrs Mini-Z
2011.04.05, 03:00 PM
Just wanted to mention that for anyone who is in need, we have the Eurus (http://shop.tinyrc.com/product.php?productid=20847&cat=0&page=1&featured) in stock in the shop. :)

rajiex
2012.01.30, 08:42 AM
MD (Model Menu)
SELECT - Select the model memory number that you would like to use.

NAME - Create or alter the name for the current model memory that you are using.

COPY - Copy a model memory number to another model #.

RESET - Reset the current model # to factory default settings.

D.P. Format - Format the optional model memory expansion so that you can use it. If it is not plugged in, you won't be able to format. This item is sold as an option.

ST (Steering Menu)
TRIM - Set the trim for the steering to make the car go straight while in operation.

TRAVEL - This setting will allow for the maximum steering movement left to right.

BALANCE - Allows you to set the end points (how far the steering should move) for the left and right. This should be set correctly so that you don't put too much stress on the steering servo and damage it.

SUBTRIM - allows you to center the servo. If you put a servo horn on the servo and it is not at center, you should use this function to get it to center.

TRIMRATE - Allows you to set the rate at which the TRIM will move. Smaller number will create less movement in the trim.

SPEED - Allows you to set the speed at which the servo moves. You can assign two points in the steering throw to set the speed. You can set the turn speed and the return speed for the steering.

PUNCH - Increases the initial movement of the servo from center.

CURVE - Changes the speed of the servo exponentially. Positive number increases the initial reaction, slows the speed as you approach the steering endpoint. Negative number will decrease the initial movement, speed up the speed as you approach the steering endpoint.

REVERSE - Reverse the throw of the steering servo.

DualRate - This is mainly used for oval racing. This is the similar to the Travel & Balance function but an over-ride of the two functions. Once you assign the KEY (either to an ET lever or Button) and set whether you want it to toggle or act as a push button function, you can assign a new Travel and Balance function. So as you are driving you press or push the assigned key and this will over-ride your settings for the current Travel & Balance and use the DualRate settings.

TH (Throttle Menu)
TRIM - Same as the steering trim function but for the throttle.

HPOINT - Sets the throttle end point.

BRAKE - Sets the brake end point.

SUBTRIM - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

TRIMRATE - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

SPEED - Similar to the steering speed function but for the throttle. You can set three points in the throttle travel to move at different speeds. This is for the initial movement and the return movement.

PUNCH - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

CURVE - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

REVERSE - Same as the steering subtrim function but for the throttle.

NutBrake - Allows you to set up neutral brake (or drag brake) for the throttle. You will have to assign this to a key and set the action to be push or toggle.

AutoStart - Allows you to set up the throttle to a preset position once the trigger reaches the set % of the throttle trigger movement. Can be set for electric cars for a quick start.

ABS - Allows you to set a pulse action to the brakes for better braking.

ACCEL - Allows you to set up pulse to the throttle.

IDEL UP - When assigned to a key, will allow you to move the throttle forward or back. Mainly used for gas cars.

OP (Option Menu)
CH3 & CH4 - Allows you to set mixing of the steering or throttle to either channel or set positions for these channels.

RSP - Response modes that you can set the transmitter to NORM (Normal) is the slowest response (8.0ms), HSP (High Speed) is the next fastest response (6.0ms) and ADV (Advanced) is the fastest response (4.0ms). When a non-digital module is connected the response speeds are slower. The digital mini-Z module speed is fixed and can not be altered. The non-digital mini-Z module will allow you to change the response speeds but will not be faster then the digital module, only slower.

[INPUT] with sub functions
Setup - Allows you to check and assign the ET levers and buttons to any function that you want.

AdjustVR - This is to reset and calibrate the potention meters (steering & throttle) in the transmitter. Volume refers to the volume restister or potention meter.

AutoRep - change the LCD scrolling speed.

PowAlrm - set the alarm if the transmitter is not used for X minutes. Good reminder if you left your transmitter on.

LED - Assign LED to flash when certain functions are being used.

CONTRAST - Adjust the LCD contrast

B.Light - Set the LCD backlight

Title - Display a function in the first menu screen
[ ] - If a digital module is inserted, the module will be displayed. Non-digital module will be left blank.

Buzzer - Assign a sound to a function.

CustomTone - Create your own sound or ring tone.

StopWatch - Stop watch feature.

Down Timer - Count down timer function to let you know if your runtime is finished.

If you are using this for the 2.4GHz mini-Z, you should use the settings that are posted. These are recommended for all 2.4GHz mini-Z's and is a good starting point. Not all mini-Z's will be the same due to the servo and motor used.

I just got the Eurus and am in love with it. It made the Mini Zs so much better. Almost getting 2-3 extra laps per race.
Does the ABS feature work on a Mini Z.

lfisminiz
2012.01.30, 02:41 PM
It does work. Not sure if you really need it. The little i use brakes...i just make sure that when i use the brakes the car stays fairly streight, not fish tail or squerm.

Mike Keely
2014.01.26, 05:10 PM
I am having a issue with the reverse on my 03. I have 5 of these cars and my Box Stock car is the only one with this issue. If I get stuck I can hit the throttle 20 times forward and it will never go in reverse. If I count one thousand one, one thousand to, one thousand three and then hit it forward it will go into reverse everytime. I have messed with the subtrim in both directions and nothing seems to help. I have tried to mess with settings using the setting card and that does not seem to help. Any thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance!!!

Traveler
2014.01.26, 06:35 PM
Got an 02 board in that 03? Is what you are describing similar to the reverse delay on the 02s?

Mike Keely
2014.01.26, 08:37 PM
No, it is a 03

Garug
2014.01.26, 11:16 PM
Though throttle sub trim should do the same job, you could still try to use the throttle trim as follows. First centre the sub trim.

Highpoint 85, break 30 all other throttle settings default. Set throttle trim so that the wheels just start to spin forward, now count the clicks and set the throttle trim so that the wheels start to spin backwards. Divide that by 2 and apply that amount of clicks forward. Now the neutral is centred.

If this does not help, then the problem is likely the ICS settings or broken electronics on the car. If I remember correctly there is a break delay setting
on ICS, set that to minimum. You could also try the neutral range to medium.

I hope this helps.

BTW. I do not like mush the Eurus user manual, but K.I.Y user manual is very good and helpful also for Eurus. The K.I.Y manual explains well how the different settings affect the handling of the car.

Mike Keely
2014.01.27, 12:04 PM
I will give it a try. Thanks for the help.