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JuniorWKR
2010.05.28, 11:28 AM
is there any chance that pn will be coming out with a 96mm rear pod?... i would really like to see this made available... there are huge benefits to running 96mm with a 94mm body... and i would like to run 96mm using the standard tplates....

Traveler
2010.05.28, 12:19 PM
I'd be very surprised. :eek:

JuniorWKR
2010.05.28, 12:28 PM
yeah me too.. but i would really like to stick with the orange color on my cars ;)....

EMU
2010.05.28, 12:28 PM
I doubt that PN would release a 96mm mount, but I would like to see one.

You can always use the ATM 96mm mount if you want to use a standard t-plate ;)

Number1
2010.05.28, 12:55 PM
Junior using Atomic parts?
Not only it's a "NO", it's a "HELL NO"!:D

Tjay
2010.05.28, 01:18 PM
I had asked about this early 2009... I don't think it'll happen. It would be good to see it though.

JuniorWKR
2010.05.28, 01:41 PM
i really hope he will change his opinion about it if enough racers express and intrest here for it.

JuniorWKR
2010.05.28, 01:48 PM
what i would really like to see is for pn to just modify there latest version of there 94mm pod... i love that pod.. if they could just add 2mm of legnth to the frotn of the pod where the tplate attaches i think it would be awesome... and i guess he would also have to adjust the post holder arm so the dps discs still sit center on the dps plate...

PNracing
2010.05.28, 01:58 PM
I had asked about this early 2009... I don't think it'll happen. It would be good to see it though.

We had new mount coming soon, next week will be testing.
94-96-98-100 in one mount with same MM T-Bar.

EMU
2010.05.28, 01:59 PM
Sounds good Philip :)

ruf
2010.05.28, 02:33 PM
As usual, we're flattered... :D

JuniorWKR
2010.05.28, 02:49 PM
sweet... cant wait.. thank you philip...

JuniorWKR
2010.05.28, 02:50 PM
i think its great that every manufacture was able to come up with their own way to make 96mm work...

Felix2010
2010.05.28, 03:11 PM
We had new mount coming soon, next week will be testing.
94-96-98-100 in one mount with same MM T-Bar.

Phil - will the innovations ever cease?hehe:D

lfisminiz
2010.05.28, 07:16 PM
Philip..........sounds perfect.;):)

herman
2010.05.28, 08:22 PM
hmm... wouldn't it be easier just to come out with a 96mm h/t plate? or maybe i'm missing something...

blt456
2010.05.28, 09:23 PM
Reflex Racing already designed the 96mm t-plate. They were the first to start the whole 96mm scene. Then ATM made their pod and now PN. I think the whole point is to make the pod 96mm so you can use a wider variety of t-plates, the regular 94/98mm ones. With the 94mm pods, to achieve 96mm you can only use the Reflex t-plates

color01
2010.05.30, 03:54 AM
Phil - will the innovations ever cease?hehe:D
Hm? The MRCG1.1 has had 94-96-98-100 since last year. :p Just kiddin' Philip, can't wait to see what you've come up with. :)

Felix2010
2010.05.30, 09:44 AM
Hm? The MRCG1.1 has had 94-96-98-100 since last year. :p Just kiddin' Philip, can't wait to see what you've come up with. :)

Jeez, jump all over me why don't ya:D J/K, hehe.

I was thinking in general about the last year or so's worth of designs coming from PN. Philip's latest parts to me are works of art. I love the extra bit of CNC work to get that extra bit of weight off the PN parts too:)

I am definitely not stepping on your toes with your MRCG chassis color0.:) LOT's of innovation right thurrr my man.:D:D

Tjay
2010.05.30, 11:35 PM
We had new mount coming soon, next week will be testing.
94-96-98-100 in one mount with same MM T-Bar.

Awesome! I'll hold off in buying another 96mm pod then. ;)

herman
2010.05.30, 11:57 PM
Reflex Racing already designed the 96mm t-plate. They were the first to start the whole 96mm scene. Then ATM made their pod and now PN. I think the whole point is to make the pod 96mm so you can use a wider variety of t-plates, the regular 94/98mm ones. With the 94mm pods, to achieve 96mm you can only use the Reflex t-plates

thanks for the info... :D

QuantumRC
2010.05.31, 01:29 AM
We had new mount coming soon, next week will be testing.
94-96-98-100 in one mount with same MM T-Bar.

Waiting with baited breath..

luvs2hate
2010.06.04, 09:39 AM
As usual, we're flattered... :D

Who would have thought an arrogant response by REFLEX.

JuniorWKR
2010.06.04, 09:58 AM
Who would have thought an arrogant response by REFLEX.

there really is just no need for that kind of response...

MantisMMA
2010.06.04, 11:22 AM
Who would have thought an arrogant response by REFLEX.

how old are you man? and how was that arrogant? definately no need for that......

JuniorWKR
2010.06.04, 11:35 AM
PN, any chance im gonna have these 96mm mounts before i head to myrtle beach?

PNracing
2010.06.04, 12:31 PM
PN, any chance im gonna have these 96mm mounts before i head to myrtle beach?

Sorry, can't make it, still on making sample.

JuniorWKR
2010.06.04, 01:10 PM
sorry to hear that... i was really looking foward to getting my hands on it for this race... ill take the prototype if its done in time:D

ruf
2010.06.04, 01:50 PM
Who would have thought an arrogant response by REFLEX.Sorry you took that the wrong way. Philip is a good friend of mine. We often bounce product ideas off each other, and I'm glad that they're going forward with this project (as well as the Atomic version). Competition strengthens the breed. I'm sorry that the friendly context wasn't communicated (by the smiley face). I thought an open forum might welcome some friendly banter between us, but clearly it's being misconstrued.

On a side note, while some drivers can't tell the difference between a 96mm motor mount and a 96mm t-plate, 96mm isn't just about wheelbase and weight bias. The 96mm t-plate has a specific balance of roll stiffness to fore/aft stiffness. Just another way to solve the puzzle.

color01
2010.06.04, 05:29 PM
Username suggests a troll... just sayin'.

SAGISI
2010.07.25, 10:48 PM
Got to see the prototype motor mount this week at the pn regionals! Looks awesome!

Davey G
2010.07.26, 12:52 PM
I can show mine off at the PN regional this upcoming weekend at MHS as well for those that are interested. (SHAMELESS PLUG) ;)

Felix2010
2010.08.14, 10:59 PM
Any pics at all that could maybe be shared about this 94-96-98mm PN motor mount? I am jonesing to see this thing. If no pics, could I ask - Is it a completely-different design than the PN 94-98 V3 pod and the PN 98-102 V4 pod? I really don't want to buy another PN motor pod right now since if the new 96mm-compatiable pod becomes available soon I'ma have a basically-new $35 PN 94-98mm pod collecting dust:(

blt456
2010.08.14, 11:16 PM
I got to see it and yes, it is very different. I don't want to give it away but from what I heard at a regional it should be out soon...

yasuji
2010.08.14, 11:49 PM
rumor has it it will be GIMBALED capable ;)

color01
2010.08.15, 05:05 AM
That'd be the easiest thing in the world, seeing as how the pod is constructed... ;)

EMU
2010.08.15, 10:47 AM
Gimbaled 96mm sounds exciting :)

Felix2010
2010.08.15, 05:22 PM
rumor has it it will be GIMBALED capable ;)

Oh Baby!:D

yasuji
2010.08.15, 06:59 PM
close ur eyes....imagine a single mount that is capable of doing it all...:eek:even making you faster!;)...that is what this mount will be!:D
well...i dont know if it will make u faster but it will look good!

Felix2010
2010.08.15, 07:17 PM
Looking good is more important than being faster...lol:D:D At least to me it is..:D

Seriously though, that sounds great. Thanks for the info, and... When is it coming out again!?:D

skyler
2010.08.30, 09:50 AM
Can somebody please post some pics?

Felix2010
2010.09.12, 03:18 PM
Any updates? Is this pod going to be available to the public by the PNWC finals? If not than can we just find that out plz? Thanks!:D

PNracing
2010.09.12, 08:31 PM
Any updates? Is this pod going to be available to the public by the PNWC finals? If not than can we just find that out plz? Thanks!:D

The production is done, just waiting for design pattern registration done.
Should be release within 10 days.

Felix2010
2010.09.12, 09:05 PM
The production is done, just waiting for design pattern registration done.
Should be release within 10 days.

Holy Jumpin', now that's what I call service!:D Thanks Philip for the update and the quick reply!

CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS!!!! Should be VERY cool....So cool it deserves a double:cool::cool:
:D

chad508
2010.09.12, 10:01 PM
the new pan body now the new pod all to be released in 10 days. looks like i'll be broke again this month

PNracing
2010.09.12, 11:29 PM
the new pan body now the new pod all to be released in 10 days. looks like i'll be broke again this month

Yes, the fisrt sample we tested last Friday in my track, Grant make the new record in my regional layout record 7.19, Chad make 7.25. If everthing smooth, should be arrive next Tuesday.

Felix2010
2010.09.13, 09:16 PM
Any prototype pics or CAD design photos for this new PN pod - Anything? Just a little taste... Please!:D

Treadmule
2010.09.13, 09:41 PM
Here are a few YouTube videos of Friday's action at RCKenon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ABamG9VkNc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh_10fEb9iI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnHeOyStW7k

The new pan cars are so small and these guys are so fast, you can't really tell anything about them in these vids, but you _did_ ask for "Anything"...
:)

Felix2010
2010.09.13, 11:01 PM
Thanks for the "something". hehe:D

color01
2010.09.14, 03:16 AM
To be cryptic, let's just say that I thought Philip borrowed my car... ;)

Felix2010
2010.09.14, 05:01 AM
^You mean your MRCG?:)

herman
2010.09.14, 09:51 PM
just saw the vids... faaaast...
any spy pics of the new body? and motor mount lol :D

SAGISI
2010.09.21, 02:59 PM
Its Tuesday! Will these be avaliable today??? I checked kenon and it seems philip listed something about a new motor mount on new arrivals but link says "no product".

Felix2010
2010.09.21, 03:00 PM
Its Tuesday! Will these be avaliable today??? I checked kenon and it seems philip listed something about a new motor mount on new arrivals but link says "no product".

Saw it too:D Just a lil' tease by Phil before the unveiling tonight.... I hope:D

SAGISI
2010.09.21, 05:21 PM
pictures up on rckenon of new mount!

http://pnracing.us/productsphotos/MR2996-1.jpg

herman
2010.09.21, 11:04 PM
that is sick... :D

cocowawa
2010.09.22, 12:22 AM
this is really pretty,love the carbon fiber mixed with alum.

PNracing
2010.09.22, 01:26 AM
http://www.pnracing.us/productsphotos/MR2996-instruction.jpg

Tjay
2010.09.22, 01:48 AM
I'm still running 96mm config and this pod is, SICK!!! I want one w/ Ti screws. :)

Great work Philip Ng and Staff!

lfisminiz
2010.09.22, 04:29 AM
I'm still running 96mm config and this pod is, SICK!!! I want one w/ Ti screws. :)

Great work Philip Ng and Staff!

Exactly what i was thinking.;)

PNracing
2010.09.22, 09:29 AM
Thanks Tj and Larry, more parts with reconfigure the mount coming soon, 90mm Carbon Base Plate with RM design, RM Motor Plate work for 90mm 94mm even run 98mm RM wheel base.

JuniorWKR
2010.09.22, 09:56 AM
very nice... i have a few on the way for me... any chance you have a weight comparision from this pod compared to the last version of you r 94mm pod?

thanks in advance...

PNracing
2010.09.22, 12:00 PM
very nice... i have a few on the way for me... any chance you have a weight comparision from this pod compared to the last version of you r 94mm pod?

thanks in advance...

almost same weight.

JuniorWKR
2010.09.22, 12:58 PM
sounds good... even if it is slightly heavier it might be good for the very light chassis of the 03... cant wait...

Felix2010
2010.09.25, 12:58 AM
Phi; Ng - Congrats on making the best better:D I need one of them now... Time to mortgage the house...and the car:rolleyes:

chad508
2010.10.01, 11:18 PM
not sure if im the only one with this problem so im asking. got 1 each of both pods, but have found that the pn diff adjusting nut rubs on the alum. bracket. i have swaped it out for a qteq and it works fine. but on the non drive side the hub nut also rubs on the alum bracket. ive tried a few other brand hub nuts but they all rub and start to bind. i find my self having to shim it off the bearing about .4mm to get it to clear. but then i have clearance issues with that side tire and body when running 0* offsets. anyone else have a better solution?

skyler
2010.10.02, 12:25 PM
not sure if im the only one with this problem so im asking. got 1 each of both pods, but have found that the pn diff adjusting nut rubs on the alum. bracket. i have swaped it out for a qteq and it works fine. but on the non drive side the hub nut also rubs on the alum bracket. ive tried a few other brand hub nuts but they all rub and start to bind. i find my self having to shim it off the bearing about .4mm to get it to clear. but then i have clearance issues with that side tire and body when running 0* offsets. anyone else have a better solution?
Hi Chad, Have you fixed the rubbing problem yet? I have that same pod and have tried it every way ( 94-96, lowest adjuster with hole down) and no problems. I can see that there is enough clearance but it isn't a gigantic amount. what bearings are you using? I am using PN ceramic and it's just right. If you were to use a narrower bearing than the PN's, i can see where you would have issues. The diff i am using is the PN lightweight with the star diff hubs and delrin adjuster nut. Let us know what you come up with.

EMU
2010.10.02, 03:00 PM
I havent tried this mount yet but there are a few options to fine tune the spacing. You could shim the wheel adapter out 1mm, and use a -1mm wheel on the left side... You can also shave down a wheel adapter a little, and then shim it. You can also shave down the mount a little, which would be my approach, since I tend to swap out diffs pretty frequently when changing gear ratios rather than rebuilding the diff with a different spur each time.

chad508
2010.10.02, 03:31 PM
thanks for all the input. i only have problems with the pn diff. which i find odd. it is the first light weight diff that is all orange alum with a alum diff nut. it seems to work best with all qteq parts, as they are all tapered way from the pod. other than these issues the pod is well made and looks great.

mleemor60
2010.10.02, 05:17 PM
Chad, Are you going to try and set it up with the Tri-shock rig? If so let me know how it turns out. Please.

chad508
2010.10.02, 06:04 PM
I plan to as soon as soon as I can get my hands on one

mleemor60
2010.10.02, 06:52 PM
How many do you want?

chad508
2010.10.02, 08:54 PM
ive got one on order. but thanks

mleemor60
2010.10.03, 09:25 AM
Which one gets used at 96mm? The 94 or 98?

lfisminiz
2010.10.03, 12:23 PM
Mike, the 94 pod you can do 94 or 96. The way im understanding is, what ever pod you get, there will be adapters comming out to do all wheel bases with the same pod.

mleemor60
2010.10.03, 01:04 PM
Thanks Larry. I have one of the new mounts in 98+ and I have the tri shock that Davey G assembled for me at Maj's. When you try to mount everything it doesn't line up. The damper bracket seems to pull everything off center. Likely my fault.

lfisminiz
2010.10.03, 01:23 PM
Mike, im not sure how you have it. 1 of mine has the side shocks and all is good. I think it gives you more space with this pod.

Double check your lower carbon bar/piece. For some reason my 98 version has more holes in it than my 94(where the screws go to the aluminum axle pieces). Im thinking they may be for other wheel bases. If so, you may be able to do 96?

mleemor60
2010.10.03, 02:49 PM
I will keep fooling with it. I really feel that this is not the way to go but until I try it I can't be sure. With the T-plate at least.

chad508
2010.10.03, 07:20 PM
from what understand the 98-100 pod will be able to do from 90-100. all that will be needed is motor mount, as this pod is drilled with the 94-96 holes in bottom plate. i think with the 98-100 mount you can already do 96 with the 98 motor mount if you run a small tooth pinion. i have yet to try it though. plus you could also do 102 with rr 96 t plates.

mleemor60
2010.10.03, 07:43 PM
I might be working on something that can't be done with the existing bit's. I am currently working at 98mm but ultimately will want to take it to 102.

EMU
2010.10.03, 09:20 PM
You should be able to do 102 by using an RM t-plate, or moving the MM t-plate back one position. Then you just have to work on the damper, which I am sure that you can figure out something.

From what I see, the difference between the 94 and 98 mounts are the lower carbon plate, and the motor adapter (98mm mount has adapter that lays the motor flat).

chad508
2010.10.03, 10:17 PM
the 98s carbon plate has the holes drilled in it to do 94-96 its just the motor mount that is needed. the 98 plate is just 2mm longer to allow 98-100.

EMU
2010.10.03, 11:37 PM
98mm mount
http://www.rckenon.com/public_html/shop2/catalog/images/MR2999S.jpg
94mm mount
http://www.rckenon.com/public_html/shop2/catalog/images/MR2996B.jpg

You can see in the first picture, that the 98mm mount has 2 sets of screw holes for the lower plate, ones for 94/96, and ones for 98/100 when using a standard MM t-plate in the shortest position.

When using the 94/96mm position, you would need to use the 94mm motor adapter.

When using a 98+ wheelbase, with the 98 plate, you can use the motor adapter that comes with the 98mm mount and lays the motor flat. The damper remains in the same position, but the rear axle moves back. I would assume that you could use the 94mm motor adapter as well, but would have higher CG (which isnt always a bad thing)

You can use the 94mm mount in the 98mm position by moving the t-plate back one position, but then you have to move the damper back with it. This is possible with current tri-damper setups. For 102mm, you would need to use the 98mm mount, with the 94mm tri damper set to the 98mm wheelbase setting.

benmlee
2010.10.04, 02:01 PM
not sure if im the only one with this problem so im asking. got 1 each of both pods, but have found that the pn diff adjusting nut rubs on the alum. bracket. i have swaped it out for a qteq and it works fine. but on the non drive side the hub nut also rubs on the alum bracket. ive tried a few other brand hub nuts but they all rub and start to bind. i find my self having to shim it off the bearing about .4mm to get it to clear. but then i have clearance issues with that side tire and body when running 0* offsets. anyone else have a better solution?

Are you checking the clearance with the ball diff tightened or loose? If the adjuster is loosened, it can rub on the motor mount, but with it tightened, there should be clearance even with no shim.
For the bearing, a small washer should be used regardless of clearance. That way, the rotating parts do not contact both the inner and outer race of the bearing.

chad508
2010.10.04, 03:11 PM
im finding the pn orange nut to be the only one with the problem. with it as tight as i can get it, not that i would race it this way, it leaves 1 maybe 2 threads on the shaft and still hits the lower part of the of the alum bracket just below the bearing. ive noticed that the new pn delrin nut has its corners knocked off and may be what has to be done with this nut as well.

color01
2010.10.27, 02:03 PM
The new mount isn't entirely backwards-compatible, so buying a new nut may be part of the price of switching over. Thankfully they're not expensive. :o Have you shimmed out the axle to see if you can make clearance? With the newer PN shafts you can shim each wheel out almost a full mm to make clearance for stuff (don't forget to use a narrower offset wheel).

I just ordered one of the 98+ mounts in blue, along with V2 plates for the TDS. Hoping to get that TDS as low as humanly possible and then slap a lightweight body on top of it. :)