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herman
2010.06.17, 01:30 AM
hi folks...
was able to get my hands on a sauber mercedes c9... pretty cool looking autoscale given its history (http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33858&highlight=mercedes)....

upon looking it over though... i saw one thing in particular which i really didn't like...

i'll give you three guesses... :p:D:rolleyes:
apologize for the quality/grainy pics...
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30066&d=1276752594

well if this isn't an episode of pimp my sauber, i don't know what is... like what was kyosho thinking??? dang...

official kyosho released photos looked pretty good
http://www.kyosho.com/common/image.php?id=119940

so what really happened?

herman
2010.06.17, 01:36 AM
so i looked under the hood to find out what was wrong... and whalla...

the body clip looked low, which in effect 'raised' the whole body
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30067&d=1276752896

solution... relocate the darn thing... take off both body clips
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30068&d=1276752939

the other side... (note the inner part of the body where the blade is pointing, may need some reducing... so bring out your good old friend mr. dremel)
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30069&d=1276752964

and relocate the body clip...
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30070&d=1276752987

herman
2010.06.17, 01:47 AM
here's the result...

pretty good, but i would have liked it a bit lower...
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30071&d=1276753636

herman
2010.06.17, 01:54 AM
other pics...
can you tell the difference? answer below... :D

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30072&d=1276753780

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30073&d=1276753802

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30074&d=1276753877

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30075&d=1276753894

answer...
different focal points... top pic rear wing 'aeg' is more in focus compared to the other elements in the shot... second from the top... the michellin man/tire is in focus... third from top... tire rims... fourth... ''mercedes benz v8'' and drivers names are in focus... i like this the best... i think the grainy pic add a bit character to the whole photo... hope you didn't mind the quality...

lastly...
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33799&stc=1&d=1371203088

herman
2010.06.17, 02:20 AM
apparently somebody else had this problem

click picture to see thread

http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/ManiacalTyrant/IMGP0099.jpg (http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34169&highlight=mercedes)

i also mentioned that i wanted it a bit lower... but after running it for a while, i noticed a weird noise, and upon inspection, i noticed part of the gear diff spur hitting up against the body when the motor mount moves up and down...

so i guess lowering it isn't much of an option without hitting inside the body... i may have to do some dremel work on inside of the body as well... if anything i may have to raise the body again?!?! haven't done any racing with it so can't really give any feedback as to how it is during races...

as a side note i wonder how this thing was able to escape kyosho's quality control???

that's it for now... :D

akura2
2010.06.17, 03:56 PM
these pics are HUGE... LOL

i had the same problem... so i bought a white body Sauber so I can place the body clips where ever I want.... That is of course after I bought the black one initially, and was disappointed with the raised rear, so I bought the Silver, thinking that my black one was a defect (and after messing up my black one trying to re-glue the clips on).... the autoscale chassis has the body sitting just about right, but when you put it on the "real" chassis it looks like a dragster

When you look at the inside of the body before you take the clips off, you can see there is a space right above the clips... the two middle ridges out of the four inside have a notch where it look like the clips are supposed to rest against, but they are JUST below the notch... they based the location of the clip on being flush with the bottom of the body instead of being up against the notches in the ridges

Pierro
2010.06.19, 03:37 PM
Nice pics Herman!

I'va had the same problem with the sauber I bought today. On the chassis it looks like a dragster besauce of the side clips beeing too low.

I carefully took them off and glue them back a little higher in the body. But not at the full height in fact cause as mentionned in the other thread, the spur is hitting the body. So I had to compromise between beauty and usability.

Too bad for such a beautiful body...

herman
2010.06.20, 11:39 PM
When you look at the inside of the body before you take the clips off, you can see there is a space right above the clips... the two middle ridges out of the four inside have a notch where it look like the clips are supposed to rest against, but they are JUST below the notch... they based the location of the clip on being flush with the bottom of the body instead of being up against the notches in the ridges
couldn't have said it any better... er... can anybody tell me how to resize pics?

i relocated the clips to be flush with those notches... unfortunately though doing that runs the risk of the spur hitting the body... as observed by me and pierro... and emu & lfisminiz (on another link)

or we can all do what pierro did... totally agree
Too bad for such a beautiful body...

wonder if there will be a redesign... and if kyosho has caught this and started rectifying the problem....