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pedrocamp
2011.03.08, 10:36 PM
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Join us for the first Carolina Cup Race of the 2011 Season. We will be racing at the new Hobbytown USA Mooresville, NC Indoor RC Track. This will be our largest track event of the Carolina Cup Challenge, featuring the nearly unlimited, superfast CanAm Class! We will also be running the competitive LeMans Prototype Mod Class and of course the Stock Handout Motored GT2s. We will also have a Sportsman GT/LM class for new racers, young and old, who want to join the fun.

Track open for practice all day Friday April 8th (10:00AM - 8:00PM)
Saturday April 9th Schedule: Morning Practice (8:00AM - 11:30AM)
Qualifications Start at 12:00 Noon
Three 4 Minute Heats with 8 Minute Mains

Race Location:

HobbyTown USA: Mooresville, NC
168 Norman Station Blvd
Mooresville, NC 28117
US
(704) 799-9332

THANKS to our Prize Sponsors!

DG Designs
Team Scream
Vasquez Painting
Reflex Racing
PN Racing
Action B (FET Upgrades)
Microsoft
Atomic



Race Fees:

First Class: $20.00
Second Class $10.00
Third Class: $5.00
Use of Handout Stock Motor Included

Sportsman: $10.00 (Handout Motor not required)

Friday Practice: $10.00 per Racer, All Day

ILap Transponder Rental: $5 with harness (Available for purchase as well)




RACING CLASSES
GT2 - LMP1 - CanAm1 - Sportsman GT/LM

SEE RULES BELOW:


Grand Touring Classes

Chassis: Any 1/28th scale 2WD chassis.
Track Width: 80mm max
Wheel Base: 86-102mm

Body: Kyosho ASC, White Body or equivalent (TRP, Iwaver, X-Mod, etc...) hard plastic bodies allowed, excluding LM-LeMans Prototype bodies (See LMP class list) or Can-Am/Pan-type bodies. No thin shell Lexan/polycarbonate bodies allowed. Bodies may be altered for wheelbase but a maximum wheel opening of 31mm measured horizontally must be maintained. Wheel wells may be altered for tire clearance but the body must cover the tire completely when viewed from above. Cabin window must be retained but may be lightened internally, polycarbonate (Lexan) windows allowed. Headlight buckets may be removed but lenses or covers must be retained. Taillight lenses and housings may be removed. The rear fascia or bumper maybe cut but no higher than 18mm from the chassis bottom plane. Holes are legal in the remaining fascia. Small body parts such as mirrors, canards and exhaust pipes may be omitted. Front air-dams, splitters and body sides may be trimmed for track clearance.
Width: 82mm max.
Length: 200mm max
Height: 70mm max
Wing: All wings original to the body are legal. Aftermarket or non original wings must fit within the confines of main body. Wing must not extend higher than roof line relative to chassis bottom plane (excluding extensive roof scoops, for example Kyosho NSX), past widest point of body, or beyond rear of body work. This includes all parts of wing (side dams, etc...).

Electronics: Unlimited.

Batteries: 4 x AAA NiCad, NiMh or Alkaline (Lithium based batteries NOT allowed)

Wheels: Any Mini-Z type wheels, plastic or aluminum.
Front: 9 x 22mm max
Rear: 11 x 22mm max

Tires: Any rubber Mini-Z type tires (no foam).

GT1

Min Weight: None.

Motor: Any 130 size brushed motor. Brushless not allowed.

GT2

Min Weight: 175g with transponder.

Motor: Spec motor designated by the Event.



Le Mans Prototype Classes

Chassis: Any 1/28th scale 2WD chassis.
Track Width: 80mm max
Wheel Base: 102mm only

Body: Kyosho LM-LeMans Prototype ASC or White Body only:

Porsche 962, any version.
Mazda 787, any version.
Sauber C9, any version.

Wheel wells may be altered for tire clearance but the body must cover the tire completely when viewed from above. A maximum wheel opening of 32mm measured horizontally must be maintained. Cabin windows must be retained but may be lightened internally, polycarbonate (Lexan) windows allowed. Headlight buckets may be removed but lenses or covers must be retained. Taillight lenses and housings may be removed. The rear fascia maybe cut but no higher than 18mm from the chassis bottom plane. Holes are legal in the remaining fascia. Small body parts such as mirrors, canards and exhaust pipes may be omitted. Front air-dams, splitters and body sides may be trimmed for track clearance.
Width: 82mm max.
Length: 200mm max
Height: 60mm max
Wing: All wings original to the body are legal. Aftermarket or non-original wings must fit within confines of main body. Wing must not extend higher than roof line relative to chassis bottom plane (excluding extensive roof scoops, for example Kyosho NSX), past widest point of body, or beyond rear of body work. This includes all parts of wing (side dams, etc...).

Electronics: Unlimited.

Batteries: 4 x AAA NiMh or Alkaline (Lithium based batteries NOT allowed).

LMP1

Wheels: Any Mini-Z type wheels, plastic or aluminum.
Front: 9 x 22mm max
Rear: 11 x 22mm max

Tires: Any rubber tires (no foam).

Min Weight: None.

Motor: Any 130 size brushed motor. Brushless not allowed.

LMP2

Wheels: Any Mini-Z type wheels, plastic or aluminum.
Front: 9 x 18.5mm max
Rear: 11 x 20mm max

Tires: Kyosho LM specific tires only.

Min Weight: 175g with transponder.

Motor: Spec motor designated by the Event.




Can Am Classes

Chassis: Any 1/28th scale 2WD chassis.
Track Width: 85mm max
Wheel Base: 90-106mm

Body: Atomic VDS (any version), PN Pan Car (any type), Le Mans Prototype or Can-Am style polycarbonate (Lexan) body (open or closed ****pit), Kyosho Le Mans ASC, White Body or similar.
Width: 85mm max.
Length: 200mm max
Height: 60mm max
Wing: No limitation other than must fall within Body Width-Length-Height envelope.

Electronics: Unlimited.

CanAm1

Min Weight: None.

Wheels: Any Mini-Z type wheels, plastic or aluminum.
Front: 11 x 22mm max
Rear: 11 x 22mm max

Tires: Any rubber or foam tires.

Batteries: 7.4V max. (Lithium based allowed).

Motor: Any 130 size motor. Brushless allowed.

CanAm2

Min Weight: 170g with transponder.

Wheels: Any Mini-Z type wheels, plastic or aluminum.
Front: 9 x 22mm max
Rear: 11 x 22mm max

Tires: Any rubber Mini-Z type tires (no foam).

Batteries: 4 x AAA NiMh or Alkaline (Lithium based batteries NOT allowed).

Motor: Spec motor designated by the Event.



Sportsman GT/LM

Chassis: Any 1/28th scale or similar 2WD or 4WD chassis.
Track Width: 80mm max
Wheel Base: 86-102mm

Body: Kyosho ASC, White Body or equivalent (TRP, Iwaver, X-Mod, etc...) hard plastic bodies allowed, including LM-LeMans Prototype bodies

Electronics: Unlimited.

Motor: Stock Kyosho or Stock PN 70T.

Batteries: 4 x AAA NiCad, NiMh or Alkaline (Lithium based batteries NOT allowed)

Wheels: Any Mini-Z type wheels, plastic or aluminum.

Tires: Any rubber Mini-Z type tires (no foam).



Driver List:

GT2
Traveler (Marwan)
Pedrocamp (Pedro)
Daddy Rabbit (Andy)
Chad508
Kromie (Eric)
EMU (Eugene)
Cosmicsoul (Jay)
Don
VAzRacer (Matt)
kwsmith (Wade)
Rodney
Connor
Rob
Pick (James)
Hrdrvr (Landon)



LMP1
Traveler (Marwan)
Pedrocamp (Pedro)
Daddy Rabbit (Andy)
Chad508
Colin
EMU (Eugene)
Cosmicsoul (Jay)
Hrdrvr (Landon)
Don
kwsmith (Wade)
Rodney
Connor
Pick (James)


CanAm1
Traveler (Marwan)
Pedrocamp (Pedro)
Daddy Rabbit (Andy)
Chad508
Kromie (Eric)
Colin
EMU (Eugene)
Cosmicsoul (Jay)
Hrdrvr (Landon)
Don
VAzRacer (Matt)
kwsmith (Wade)
Rodney
Rob
Pick (James)



Sportsman GT/LM
Lil Josh
Lil Josh's Dad
Lincoln
NitroJunkie?
Braden?

chad508
2011.03.08, 11:07 PM
sounds great cant wait, but im still hoping for a later start so i can save on the hotel.

hrdrvr
2011.03.09, 07:44 AM
Me too! 11 or 12 would be my vote. :)

pedrocamp
2011.03.10, 09:14 AM
Please note the way wing height and rear cut out heights are measured: wing has to be no higher than the top of the roof based on a line parallel to the bottom of the chassis and the rear bumper cutout is based on the chassis bottom as well. Set 'em and forget 'em, change tires, ride height, etc... you will stay legal unless you change the body front or side clips. I will have new tech gear at the race but it is easy enough to check with a block, square and ruler.

color01
2011.03.10, 10:00 AM
For LMP1 I think the R246 Nissan R390 should be allowed, it's in exactly the same vein as the older LM cars. :)

pedrocamp
2011.03.10, 10:22 AM
We did have a long discussion about about this body and since it was actually raced in the same full scale class as the Porsche GT1 and the big McLaren that we do allow in our GT class then we really should allow the R390 in GT as well. Notice that the GT rules do allow up to a 102mm wheelbase. We had a similar discussion when the big Mac came out and we put it in GT since it was a 98mm wheelbase. This does allow someone that wants to run the stable 102mm wheelbase in the GT classes the ability to do so, though in our area no one runs the body or the wheelbase in GT at the moment. We do let new racers run their LM cars in the GT classes but as their skills improve they switch over to a legal body. I do though see that PN calls the R390 an LM.

hrdrvr
2011.03.10, 12:43 PM
PN makes their decisions based on the R246 and Kyosho labels though, and we base our decisions on real world racing. :D

Sounds good about the measuremnt tool! I can't wait to see it. Ive been setting mine with the car on the table. I'll go back and check to make sure I won't have any problems.

pedrocamp
2011.03.11, 06:49 AM
Added race location. Driver's List and Sponsors up soon!

Traveler
2011.03.11, 10:38 AM
I'll be there. Please put me down for all 3 classes.

pedrocamp
2011.03.11, 11:43 AM
Started Driver List, bottom of first post.

Daddy Rabbit
2011.03.11, 11:46 AM
Pedro,
Put me down for all three classes.
Thank you.

chad508
2011.03.11, 12:23 PM
put me down for all 3 as well

Felix2010
2011.03.11, 07:25 PM
I gotta see some of the CanAm class chassis'. Please...WHoever races CanAm I'd like to see the beast you drive!:D

kromie101
2011.03.11, 08:35 PM
i'm down for stock and can-am.

collin will be running LM mod and can-am.

pedrocamp
2011.03.11, 08:53 PM
I am sure we'll get some cool ones, can't wait!

EMU
2011.03.12, 12:35 AM
Im planning for all 3 classes... Nothing too special for Can Am at this stage, just a lexan Pan MR02... but its a pretty fast car on every track I have driven it on ;)

pedrocamp
2011.03.12, 09:14 AM
Great EMU! Looking forward to racing with you again.

pedrocamp
2011.03.12, 09:19 AM
Sponsor List added.

DG Designs will be doing our Race Plaques! Dave does great work and I am sure he will come up with something cool for our Event! See:

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35525

We will also have his "Love Lubes" as giveaways.

We sincerely thank Team Scream for helping to promote racing in the Carolinas. I am sure everyone will want some HOT cells!

Vasquez Painting's support goes well and beyond. Jay is one of the biggest Mini Z nuts around and a shameless promoter! Thanks!

pedrocamp
2011.03.12, 05:17 PM
Reflex Racing will be providing prizes! RR has always been a supporter of our local scene and most of us use his cool products (hope I get that motor mount for this race!). Thanks again CT!

pedrocamp
2011.03.13, 11:35 AM
Check out the new graphic by DG Designs! Thanks Dave! The race plaques should be very cool.

pedrocamp
2011.03.14, 07:13 AM
Action B is on board, 2 FET upgrades! If you haven't seen his work check him out on this forum. These are great prizes, especially for the FET deficient! Thanks!

pedrocamp
2011.03.14, 09:14 AM
Thanks to Mike Downey of Microsoft, we'll have some nice swag to give away. Mike, based out west, has become a big fan of Mini Z racing and we thank him for his support of our series in the east. I know alot of us would love to be able to make his race out in Vegas! Thanks again Mike!

pedrocamp
2011.03.14, 09:16 AM
Atomic is also sending some nice stuff, THANKS Sai!

chad508
2011.03.14, 01:03 PM
good to see all the sponsers jumping on board. and the event pic looks pretty cool

pedrocamp
2011.03.15, 05:26 PM
PN Racing is supporting the CC again this year! Thanks Philip!

chad508
2011.03.15, 06:28 PM
any idea on start times for saturday yet. still hoping for 12.

pedrocamp
2011.03.15, 07:34 PM
Got a prelim schedule worked up. I need to contact the HT to see if they have a desired end time. I will try to do a later start.

cosmicsoul
2011.03.15, 08:57 PM
If Daddy Rabbit is going to run all three classes then so will I! Put Lincoln down for stock as well.

hrdrvr
2011.03.16, 07:49 AM
I'm definitely in for Can Am. Ive got to figure out which other class I am gonna run. I'd rather run GT2, but it all depends on start time. If its an early start, Ill probably do LMP1 so I dont have to mess with a motor.

I am driving up Saturday morning for sure.

pedrocamp
2011.03.16, 08:00 AM
I am looking at a later start, just need to check on our cutoff time with HT. I'll put you down for CanAm with a ? in GT and LM. Thanks...

hrdrvr
2011.03.16, 08:50 AM
Myssie turned 11 5-minute heats and 10 mains into an 8 hour day with 30+ poeple at the MD race. We had delays up there, and were still done by 8 with a 12ish start.

cosmicsoul
2011.03.16, 10:04 AM
Will Myssie be available to help us out this go round or does she have a prior commitment.

I am pretty sure this has already been addressed, if so sorry for bringing up again.

chad508
2011.03.16, 10:09 AM
last i heard from eric. she will not be coming due to griff having a baseball game.

hrdrvr
2011.03.16, 10:35 AM
Are they on ZRound at HT? I doubt any of us know the system they are using anyway.

pedrocamp
2011.03.16, 12:35 PM
They are currently running Laps Free but we may use ZRound for the event.

kromie101
2011.03.16, 06:48 PM
thats a negative ghost rider.

pedrocamp
2011.03.16, 09:12 PM
Is a later start, say 11:30-12:00 good for all our out of town travelers? I would think we could be done by 8:00-8:30.

The CanAm class is bigger than Stock right now!

hrdrvr
2011.03.16, 09:37 PM
Sounds good to me Pedro. You can also take me out of stock, and leave me in lmp1. I put one together, and made some slight mods to my c9. Its feelng pretty good. :)

VAzRACER
2011.03.16, 10:27 PM
Put me down for GT2 and Can AM.

Thanks

chad508
2011.03.16, 11:20 PM
that time works for me.

kwsmith29
2011.03.18, 12:32 AM
I'm in for all three..

Wade

pedrocamp
2011.03.18, 07:42 AM
Driver's List updated. We are getting a full field of CanAm cars! I know we have a few more locals that have yet to sign up.

I hope to be posting a prelim schedule and race fees soon (it'll be reasonable), couple of details to firm up.

pedrocamp
2011.03.19, 04:56 PM
Driver's List updated.

We are also able to offer a Sportsman/New Racer class for those that may be interested. Any GT or LM car with a Kyosho Stock or PN 70T motor. Half the price of the regular entry fee! Details soon!

pedrocamp
2011.03.22, 01:32 AM
Sportsman Class and Race Fee info added

chad508
2011.03.22, 09:02 AM
whats the situation with transponders. will we have enough to go around.

pedrocamp
2011.03.22, 09:46 AM
We are working on it, hope to have at least 14 Mini Z specific ILaps. There are 10 house transponders but they have a pigtail with a Futaba J on the end. The MZ specific use a Giro harness. I am pushing HT to use ZRound with the ILap so if we do need to switch to Giro they will know the software. They are watching Jesus' videos...

chad508
2011.03.22, 10:21 AM
on top of the 14 would any others be for sell? if this is what will be run i may just buy one.

pedrocamp
2011.03.22, 10:26 AM
Yes, HT will have some, they are $37 and are not limited to 26 like the Giro, you get your own personal number.

Traveler
2011.03.25, 01:36 PM
I already got Chad's number. j/k :)

chad508
2011.03.25, 02:56 PM
I already got Chad's number. j/k :)

as long as its one above you were all good.:D

Traveler
2011.03.25, 03:02 PM
Last I checked 2 is above 1, and I'll be tickled with 1st place :cool:

check your PMs ;)

pedrocamp
2011.03.29, 12:28 PM
We will be running the ILap system, HT will have plenty of Mini Z specific transponders for sale and loan.

Just 2 weeks away!

Let's get some Sportsman drivers signed up!

Traveler
2011.03.30, 03:33 PM
You can put me in Sportsman too :D

EMU
2011.03.30, 04:11 PM
I am still trying to figure out what I will run for GT2... I like trying something different each time... Anyone have any suggestions/requests?

I just booked my flights :) Flying in Friday/noon, out Sunday morning, so I shouldnt miss all the fun, and wont be pressured if things fall off schedule.

I do have my own I-Lap transponder. After using all of the more popular systems, I-Lap is my favorite... Their own tranponder plugs/wires are better than the ones for Giro-Z. I cant tell you how many Giro-Z plugs I have broken removing them from transponders... and both systems plugs are the same for the Mini-Z version...

cosmicsoul
2011.03.30, 05:03 PM
I think you should run a skinny Mini-Cooper. Just so us immature, I mean ammature drivers can stand a chance.;)

pick
2011.03.31, 12:17 AM
Hey EMU, my boy Kyler said you could borrow his backup car............

http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp145/held1823/wing%20car%20collection/Cars%20movie%20-%20King/kingrc.jpg

If you let me know soon enough, I'll have Pedro through some fets in it :eek:. It should handle GREAT on the RCP :p.

pedrocamp
2011.03.31, 11:46 AM
Track hours posted.

pedrocamp
2011.04.04, 06:13 PM
Looking forward to the weekend!

EMU
2011.04.04, 09:24 PM
Im getting anxious, especially because I hope that my flight doesnt have a sunroof :eek:

I will be flying back Sunday morning, I didnt want to try to rush the races on my behalf... and wanted to be able to hang out for a little while after... :)

chad508
2011.04.04, 09:41 PM
I too am getting stoked. we havent raced since the capital challenge so im really looking forward to it. i made a few prep mistakes at that race that will not happen again. i hope everyone else is geting ready as well.

VAzRACER
2011.04.04, 10:51 PM
I'm ready, but the cars arent. lol. I'm gonna work on that tomorrow.:D

pedrocamp
2011.04.05, 12:55 AM
Working late getting mine ready plus two loaners, I convinced a big scale racer to come run with us.

Traveler
2011.04.05, 06:59 AM
Matt, no one from your area interested in coming with you? I thought Larry (not your area) might come back, or some of the guys from VA/DC area like one of the Mikes? This will probably be the largest layout we in NC will have for a CC event.

pick
2011.04.05, 03:12 PM
Hey Pedro,
Put me down for all three! Looks like I'm gonna be able to make it after all :D .

chad508
2011.04.05, 03:16 PM
Hey Pedro,
Put me down for all three! Looks like I'm gonna be able to make it after all :D .

just another notch i'll have to carve:D

lfisminiz
2011.04.05, 04:06 PM
Matt, no one from your area interested in coming with you? I thought Larry (not your area) might come back, or some of the guys from VA/DC area like one of the Mikes? This will probably be the largest layout we in NC will have for a CC event.

Hey buddy,

Sorry i couldnt make this one. I would really like to get back down again. Between the D.C. race, Majs upcomming race and manditory Saturday overtime:mad:, its been a bit busy. Hope to see you guys along the way!:)

geeunit1014
2011.04.05, 05:10 PM
Matt, no one from your area interested in coming with you? I thought Larry (not your area) might come back, or some of the guys from VA/DC area like one of the Mikes? This will probably be the largest layout we in NC will have for a CC event.

I would've made the trip with Matt, but you guys picked a bad weekend for me, the 1/18th Nationals in Connecticut is this weekend as well (ask anyone who was at the ALS charity race about me and 1/18th cars :eek:)

EMU
2011.04.05, 05:16 PM
I would've made the trip with Matt, but you guys picked a bad weekend for me, the 1/18th Nationals in Connecticut is this weekend as well (ask anyone who was at the ALS charity race about me and 1/18th cars :eek:)
His 1/18th cars are rediculously fast. Fastest lap set at the ALS race... Matt and I were talking the entire race about how fast he was (especially since he made the A main with an AM MR02 that was bouncing all over the place), and that we had to get him to come down to the PNWC finals which were the next week... which he did, and did well in his first drive with an ASF MR03 (3rd place if I remember correctly).

Wish you could make it Gee... next time...

pedrocamp
2011.04.05, 05:28 PM
Wish you could have made it Larry and Mike, always great to race with more of the fast guys from up north. Hope you guys can make the next one.

Great James! Is Kyler coming?

Please note, Hobbytown will be charging $10 for all day practice on Friday, 10AM to 8PM. On Saturday MiniZ specific ILap transponders will be available for rent or for sale. You can rent for $5 with harness or purchase the transponder for $37 plus about $3 for the harness. They have 22 transponders available. For those on a budget, ILap transponders with a long pigtail and Futaba J plug will be available for loan. The wires or plugs may not be modified, you just need a Futaba J female on the car.

pick
2011.04.05, 05:46 PM
just another notch i'll have to carve:D

Carvings, I love carvings :rolleyes:! In fact, I just completed one of you, Landon, and the sexy Bald Guy :eek:...............

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/brianharnett/Wood%20Carvings/DSCN2506.jpg

chad508
2011.04.05, 06:24 PM
sweet, i just cant tell who is who. the one on the left has to be landon as his mouth seems to be running

VAzRACER
2011.04.05, 06:51 PM
His 1/18th cars are rediculously fast. Fastest lap set at the ALS race... Matt and I were talking the entire race about how fast he was (especially since he made the A main with an AM MR02 that was bouncing all over the place), and that we had to get him to come down to the PNWC finals which were the next week... which he did, and did well in his first drive with an ASF MR03 (3rd place if I remember correctly).

Wish you could make it Gee... next time...

He finished second with my stock 03.;) He would have been down for coming if it wasnt for the Micro Nats. Like you said, next time. Now that hes knows the cars better hes even more of a threat. I told the people at our track he was going to be beating all of us and sure enough, hes the one we are all normally chasing. We arent that far behind though.:p

Mike Keely
2011.04.05, 07:13 PM
Matt, no one from your area interested in coming with you? I thought Larry (not your area) might come back, or some of the guys from VA/DC area like one of the Mikes? This will probably be the largest layout we in NC will have for a CC event.

I would have loved to come and meet more of the Mini-Z crowd from down south but one of my dogs just had a very costly operation and I just bought a new nitro car + engine before that. I still need to buy fuel and tires before the start of the season. I just don't want to make my wife to crazy all at one time!:D Matt knows that I am in the Mini-Z thing for the long haul so I will meet you all most likely next season. Enjoy the race everyone.

hrdrvr
2011.04.06, 10:12 AM
Pedro, go ahead and put me down for all three! I decided to convert my Can Am car to GT, and Ill run the LMP in both other classes.

Question though, do the rental transponders have the Giro plug on them? If so, put me down for a rental.

You guys from VA will be missed, but hopefully we will catch y'all on the flip side. Larry, I know Ill run into you before the year is out :D Good luck at Maj's!

pedrocamp
2011.04.06, 11:41 AM
Cool Landon.

Rentals do have Giro plugs, they have harness available as well.

nitrojunkie
2011.04.06, 03:37 PM
Word came down today gotta work so we're out this time.you guys have fun.

lfisminiz
2011.04.06, 04:23 PM
Pedro, go ahead and put me down for all three! I decided to convert my Can Am car to GT, and Ill run the LMP in both other classes.

Question though, do the rental transponders have the Giro plug on them? If so, put me down for a rental.

You guys from VA will be missed, but hopefully we will catch y'all on the flip side. Larry, I know Ill run into you before the year is out :D Good luck at Maj's!

Landon, Thanks and good luck to you as well. Im sure we will meet up somewhere......maybe when DC/MD has another big race?;)

Traveler
2011.04.06, 04:39 PM
Hey buddy,

Sorry i couldnt make this one. I would really like to get back down again. Between the D.C. race, Majs upcomming race and manditory Saturday overtime:mad:, its been a bit busy. Hope to see you guys along the way!:)

I would've made the trip with Matt, but you guys picked a bad weekend for me, the 1/18th Nationals in Connecticut is this weekend as well (ask anyone who was at the ALS charity race about me and 1/18th cars :eek:)

I would have loved to come and meet more of the Mini-Z crowd from down south but one of my dogs just had a very costly operation and I just bought a new nitro car + engine before that. I still need to buy fuel and tires before the start of the season. I just don't want to make my wife to crazy all at one time!:D Matt knows that I am in the Mini-Z thing for the long haul so I will meet you all most likely next season. Enjoy the race everyone.

Thanks for the quick responses guys! Sorry you can't make this one. Hope to see you all at other events in the year.

Davey G
2011.04.06, 07:01 PM
All race plaques are done, and race prizes are on the way!

hrdrvr
2011.04.06, 07:11 PM
Can you send my stickers with the plaques, so I can rock them at the race?

pedrocamp
2011.04.06, 09:34 PM
The plaques are printed and they look awesome! Thanks Dave!

MillerTime
2011.04.06, 10:43 PM
Will there be any vendors on site - at least selling the items that HT USA doesn't stock? I still need some wheels/tires and probably won't have a chance to do anything before Saturday.

-Chris

pedrocamp
2011.04.06, 11:13 PM
HT has not built up their inventory yet, they have some Kyosho stock but no PN. Mike M usually has ample stock on hand as well as a few others. I am sure someone can fix you up. And... if you need something from High Speed I am sure a few of the Kannapolis based guys could pick it up. Hope to see you Saturday!

hrdrvr
2011.04.07, 08:17 AM
I always bring a box of stuff that I can sell as well. I dont usually advertise it, as I dont want to step on the toes of the shop owners, but Brent knows I'll be bringing some to the races I attend there. If there is anything specific any one needs that HT or HS doesnt have, let me know. I have a good variety of stuff, just not much quantity.

Daddy Rabbit
2011.04.07, 08:26 AM
Is there a raised drivers stand?

kwsmith29
2011.04.07, 08:35 AM
Nope, this is a BYOB race...Bring your own box.... :-)

Wade

Daddy Rabbit
2011.04.07, 08:47 AM
Thanks Wade, see you there.

kromie101
2011.04.07, 03:20 PM
are there pit tables,chairs and do we need to bring a power strip?

pedrocamp
2011.04.07, 03:59 PM
Chairs and tables, yes, bring a strip though. Look forward to racin with you again!

Faded92mx5
2011.04.07, 10:42 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c228/low69bug/IMG_20110407_213122.jpg

chad508
2011.04.07, 10:50 PM
a 2wide to 3 wide staight, that will be something new for me. Layout looks pretty interesting to say the least. Can't wait to get there saturday morning.

kwsmith29
2011.04.08, 12:39 AM
You better bring tables and chairs......

Wade

hrdrvr
2011.04.08, 07:40 AM
Chad, The last cup race at HS had a 2 wide entry to a 3 wide straight. You really dont remember past races do you? :D

The layout looks good though guys! I like it. It looks like its got a good balance of low, mid, and high speed corners. That slalom section on the right looks tough, but then again, I wouldn't expect anything less from a Wade design :D

See every one tomorrow!

pedrocamp
2011.04.08, 07:43 AM
It is a lot of fun! Fast sections to open up the mod motors and a bit of tight technical. We will see quite a bit of difference in stock to mod times.

EMU
2011.04.08, 07:44 AM
Looks like its going to be a tough layout :D Need a car thats good on speed, but good infield as well... Getting ready to go to the airport, see you guys soon...

chad508
2011.04.08, 08:36 AM
i dont remember march's mzr layout.im surprised i remember the last turn on a layout.

hrdrvr
2011.04.08, 09:06 AM
I think Eric and Daddy Rabbit are already on the way up there. I will bring a table and chairs for Chad and I, but if we could have some space close to DR and Eric, that would be awesome. Dad and I share a bunch of stuff, but Chad and I aren't coming up til tomorrow.

Traveler
2011.04.08, 09:15 AM
There's plenty of room to squeeze tables and chairs in, but not many power outlets, so bring lots of extension cords and power strips.

Hope we don't cause a blackout in the town of Mooresville! I can see the headlines now, Miniature Cars Banned from Town after Creating Big Headache.

kromie101
2011.04.10, 08:31 AM
well i got an 8 hour race report from landon:p:D. sounds like you guys had a good time. it was good to see everybody again.

james,i came home and watched a bunch of cop episodes.i thought i might see you tazer someone :D.

jay,good to hang out with ya again. i bet the waiter from applebee's guit his job after we left:D:). your little boy lincoln is a cool little dude:).

i'm sure i will be back sometime:confused:. talk to you guys soon.

pick
2011.04.10, 09:41 AM
Had a great time yesterday guys. It's always cool to hang out in the pits with my buddies and trade some paint on the track :cool:. Pedro and the Hobby Town crowd put on a very polished event with the help of Wade, Jay, and others donating some time and track :D. Big thanks to the sponsors and congrats to the winners as always.

Only downer for the event was seeing my buddy Eric (Kromie101) sell off all his junk and head to the house :o. It looked like an aisle 9 blue light special at the Super K-Mart on a Friday night :eek:. Crap dude, who's gonna keep that MBMZR crowd straight now :confused:? Either way, I missed the sweat glistening off your bald head from across the room. Hopefully you'll see the error in your ways shortly and beg me to sell you some cars back ;). Anytime you need a loaner for you, Collin, or Griff.........we'll beat the crap out of Landon and take his junk :p. Hey big guy, we've still got breakfast at Tiffany's :(.

To those who couldn't make the event, you truly don't know what your missing. Great friends, good times, and fast racing......................that's what HSH, MBMZR, and the Carolina's Cup is all about :).

pedrocamp
2011.04.10, 11:55 AM
Well, we pulled it off, even without kromie! Why kromie? WHY? Though we were small in number we were big on fun and exciting racing. We had nearly all of our local crew plus our buds from Myrtle Beach (Andy, Landon, and Chad) and our good friends from NY and VA – EMU and Matt. We really appreciate all you guys travelling to this event… adds an air of respectability to it!
We do of course need to thank Hobbytown USA Mooresville, especially Mark Pelto, for hosting this event. They provided us with a large, comfortable space and Mark did a great job as our race director, he learned the ZRound software in short order and though there was the expected hiccup or two it wasn’t anything that couldn’t be sorted with the help of ZRound experts Landon and Chad.
Thanks to all who helped organize and setup the event. Nearly all of our local guys stepped up to put this all together. Marwan and Jay were great promoters for the Cup and our area in general, thanks guys! Jay’s company, Vasquez Painting in Greensboro provided lots of great prizes as well! If you gotta paint a house or a mailbox, call Jay.
A special thanks to all of our prize sponsors. For example… Hobbytown gave away an ILap transponder (system worked great by the way). Action B kicked in some FET jobs won by Lincoln Vasquez (Jay’s son) and Rodney (does he really need more speed!). An extra special thanks to Reflex who awarded four $25 gift certificates won by Marwan, Conner (Rodney’s son, do they really need more speed!), Josh and big winner of the day Lincoln Vasquez! Reflex was also represented at this event by Matt and EMU, fast racers (as you will see in the results) and super nice guys.
I am short on time so I will just post some quick results now, more detailed and videos to follow later.

Stock GT2 A Main
Matt
Landon
Rodney
Pedro
Emu
Wade

Stock GT2 B Main
Wade (Bump)
Rob
James
Chad
Marwan
Jay

Stock GT2 C Main
Rob (Bump)
Josh
Don
Albert
Conner

LMP1 A Main
Emu
Rodney
Pedro
James
Wade
Jay


LMP1 B Main
Jay (Bump)
Marwan
Don
Andy
Albert
Conner


CanAm A Main
Emu
Matt
Pedro
James
Wade
Jay
Chad

CanAm B Main
Chad (Bump)
Rodney
Marwan
Rob
Don
Andy

EMU
2011.04.10, 02:47 PM
I just got home, turned the TV/DVR on to F1 qualify (then the race after). . . It was a long weekend, but went in the blink of an eye... The first and most important, I would like to thank everyone who supported the event, whether hosting, sponsoring, racing, or just attending. The Carolina Cup has been a great race series, and continues to be one. Everyone at the event did a good job. Mike, thanks for such great hospitality, and Pedro the tech station is super.

One thing that I would like to point out, is that I was using the Qteq t-bar on all of my MR03's (even the one I got from Eric on Friday night). I didnt have to change any parts on my cars besides wheels and tires to dial in the setup going from the carpet that I have been racing to RCP. A few tiny adjustments each run, and the cars were able to find pace (it also helps standing on Wade's box, shaves off at least a tenth).

I came down with the least equipment that I have travelled to a race in a long time. I had 6 bodies and 5 cars to run 3 classes. I normally have at 2-3 cars per class :rolleyes: All of my GT bodies were 90-94mm. I felt that this track worked well for 94mm, but would have been a better 98mm track. I tried a 90mm F40 70t first. The car worked well, but had too much of a push getting on throttle with my standard tire setup for stock (ATM Slick-R 40 front with Kyosho 20d rear). I then tried my mod car from the Capital challenge with a pn39t. The car felt pretty good, but was a little edgy. A better start I thought.

I quickly checked wing and body cutout height with the neat tech tools to make be sure that that I complied by the rules, and proceeded to adjust what was needed. I really like that the wing height is measure from the chassis, not the ground. Wheel diameter, and suspension settings dont have an effect on wing height, so it wont change as you make adjustments from round to round. After my adjustments early Friday, I had no problems in tech.

I started out with LM 30 front and LM 20 rear (the tires that I ran for LMP2 at the first Carolina Cup that I attended, so they are pretty low profile) on the f430. This was a little too edgy for my stock driving style. I swapped the front tires for my normal Slick-R 40 and the car behaved better. While I felt that it was a little slower, it was considerably more consistent. After the 2nd round of qualifying in attempt to gain a little more rollout without increasing rear traction, I changed the rear wheels to narrow +2mm wheels that I borrowed from Matt (didnt have any over 1mm), and put on a set of new front LM20 wheels that I trued down to 23.5mm. The results were exactly what I thought they would be, grip felt about the same, but I gained a little more speed down the straight and a little better entry into the corners. I managed to get TQ in the third round of qualify by 1.4s over Matt in 2nd place. In the main, I felt it was anyones game. Matt got into trouble early, Landon got by me for the early lead. I managed to get by and lead for some time, but got into an incident that dislodged the right body clip, which was in front of the chassis mount point in the battery tray. Knowing that the body work would take me out of the lead, and possibly more positions, I continued to drive but couldnt push the car. Matt came up behind me, and I couldnt do anything to hold him back. Landon was next, I tried to defend a little, but ended up tagging a board and having him t-bone me flipping my car on the track. I was surprised that the body didnt come off, but was still in the same dilemma that it was before... I rejoined in last place and the marshall got to the car quickly (thats how close the field was running), and tried as hard as I could to regain anything I could. I managed to get past Wade after he had a hiccup on the last corner of the last lap.

Coming into this race, I have been regularly driving my LM car. But on carpet (same as the Dnano tracks). I knew that my car would be strong for this class, but didnt know how much I would need to change to suit the RCP. I used ATM 21.5mm wheels on the rear with K20 radial (same that I used last time for LMP1 at CFI), fronts were Mantis 19mm 0mm offset with Kyosho 30d radial trued slick. I drove this on the small RCP test track that I have at a friends house, and it felt OK. The setup on the car has only changed since the last event with the Qteq t-bar instead of t-plate. This made it easier to adjust the car to the different surface. I loosened the lateral stiffness a little to get a little more corner entry and push out of the corner. With the Chili motor that I had installed, I wanted the car to be good into the corner and consistent out so I could drive the car with less throttle to keep my batteries from dumping in the main. The third qualify round was a test run for the main, focus on consistency and stay at a good pace without overusing the throttle like I had in the first two rounds, this was the only 20L run in qualifying. In the main, I did a lot of coasting and battery management for most of the race. I pushed hard on the last lap when I had open track, and it was the fast lap of the race :)

On Friday night I set up the car that I bought from Eric that night; MR03 with MR02 board. I installed a tri-damper, top shock, Qteq t-bar, changed the front wheels and tires, and mounted the PN bumper and body mounts for the pan car. I tried it on the track Sat morning, and it felt pretty good. I swapped the motor out for an ATM 48t round can, and decided to run it for the first round of qualify. While it wasnt bad, it wasnt as good as my MR02. I think with more development time, it could be better. I ran the MR02 in the 2nd round, and it was better, but Matts car was in a world of its own. In round 3, I had a clean run and managed to steal TQ from Matt by 1.7s, but knew that he would be faster and it would be very hard to stay ahead in the main. On the start Matt tagged a board and gave me breathing room. I pushed the car to get the tires up to temp (LM30 front on Group C wheels, LM20 rear on ATM dish +2mm wheels), Matt started to close in... when the tires came up to temperature, I could push the car more consistently, and I pulled the pin and tried to pull out as much of a gap as I could. All that I focused on was each corner and section of track. Everything else was completely blocked out, I just didnt have the mental stamina to think about anything else other than my line and my cars reactions to input. At one point I hit Pedro in the rythm section (sorry Pedro :)) since I saw Matt about half a straight behind me, and didnt know if he had worked his way back up to me... I asked for the gap, and was relieved to hear that I was up 1L... I couldnt lay off at all though, the car needed to be driven hard or it wasnt consistent. I tried to slow down, but my rythm was off and I tagged a few boards...

The racing was a lot of fun, and the Carolina Cup is a race that I want to attend every time if I can. The racing environment is very comfortable, fun but also fierce. If you slip an inch, you get swallowed up by the field.

Eric, sorry to see you get out of the scale. I always look forward to racing with you. Hope to see you at the next race. If you ever come to an event that I am at, I will always hook you up with a ride if you want to race. Just give me enough advanced notice so I can get one setup per your request ;)

Cherub1m
2011.04.10, 04:06 PM
Looks like it was a very nice event nice work. Congrats to the participants and winners. Nice write up Eugene and congrats on your LMP1 A Main win and CanAm A Main win.

peter
2011.04.10, 06:28 PM
congrats eugene well done...hope to see you soon

Traveler
2011.04.11, 06:12 AM
Good to see everyone and enjoyed getting a little practice on a large layout. Not sure who will be posting the results, but it would be nice to have them sooner than later. :o

hrdrvr
2011.04.11, 09:50 AM
Marwan, I stole the results with my phone, and Ill get them uploaded as soon as I can. I forgot my USB cord, but if I figure out how to use drop box, I may still have them up today. :D


Man, what a great race day! It was a long day for me....just under 23 hours total, but well worth the effort! Pedro, and Mark did a great job moving the races along, and although there were a few snags, they still took care of everything in a very timely manner. The problems they had with ZRound were very tough ones to overcome, but once I showed them how to fix it, they jumped right in and got it done. I will be dropping Jesus an email about this dilemma, as this is the second event in a row that I attended that had this issue. All I can say is, these guys had to work overtime between rounds to keep everything straight, and they did it well. The HT location was perfect for an event. There was plenty of space for pit tables, the track layout was a perfect size, and although there was no air, and the weather outside was crazy, the room stayed comfortable, and ironically, it didn't seem to effect traction.

Pedro, you personally did an awesome job. I know you got a little stressed at the last cup race of 2010, but you held it together like a pro this round :D You did a lot of promotion, and worked your butt off running the event. You also threw down some great runs. You and Jay always give me a lot of props for organizing/running an event, and performing well. You did it better than I can remember ever doing it myself! Two thirds and fourth among this crowd is a strong weekend without the event stuff going on! :D

Rodney, Wade, James, Jay, Marwan, you guys are truly a joy to be around track side, and on track. I'm glad I didn't run so many classes, and I got to hang out and BS more than usual this time. Don, you and Daddy Rabbit need a rematch. You've got me thinking that Mike and I missed something in the last race. Ill be watching the video closely to make sure Don did get the position on that one :D Either way, the racing between y'all was some of the most exciting of the weekend! You are getting faster Don. DR and I are gonna have to work on some set ups a little, and come after you hard next round!

EMU, Matt, y'all are a credit to the hobby, and Cristian is very lucky to have the two of you representing him and his brand at races like this. Matt, I can remember us battling for like 3 years now, but joining the RR team has really stepped up your game! EMU, I remember meeting you at the PA regional back in 08, and looking up to you. I think you were running a little 350Z street version and made the A in stock (Matt and I were in the C at the same race), and I was totally impressed. I started looking up to you almost immediately, and am happy to get to race with you so much in recent years. I finally have my name above yours in official final results! Having you and Matt at these races has really done a lot for my game. Whether its skill, luck, or equipment (as you claim), you and him being just out of reach has done a lot for my motivation to do well and get better. Y'all have really pushed me upwards, and I learn something from each of you at every single event. Thanks for continuing to come, and for always being willing to lend a hand, a car, or a tip on just about anything.

Wade, I was a little skeptical about your layout on paper, but I've got to hand it to you, this was one of my favorite layouts that I've ever raced on. It had a perfect blend of high, mid, and low speed corners, with some open area, and some tight. It was very conducive to close, clean racing, and I loved it.

A big thanks goes out to all the guys who donated track, and help set up and tear down.

Mike, thanks for handling tech. I know you would have liked to have raced, but it was nice having a tech official at the table to help us keep our cars straight all day. The jig Pedro designed is a marvel of engineering genius, and worked like a champ. I thought some of our tech rules were going to be too hard to police (considering we wrote them more like for real cars than most RC rule packages), but the jig took all the guess work out of tech, and worked flawlessly.

The sponsors came through with some good prizes, and I was lucky enough to win an I-Lap transponder from the HT donations! It was funny because I told Chad that was the prize I wanted, then right before Pedro called the number, I told him it was mine. :D Thanks to all of the sponsors though, especially Reflex Racing who continues to show support for racing in the south east at every event, and to Vasquez Painting who isn't really mini-Z affiliated (well except for the owner being completely obsessed :D), but purchased usable prizes to hand out!

I know there are others who helped behind the scenes, and their effort appreciated too! The event was awesome, and it shows that you guys can come together as a group and throw down a top notch event!

Ill type up a full race report from my perspective. If its not too long, Ill post it here. Otherwise I'll link my blog, so y'all can check out my view of the day. I've got work to take care of today, but will still try and make ground on the results.

EMU
2011.04.11, 11:07 AM
Nice writeup Landon... I think that the first time we raced was at DOW. I dont remember running the 350Z at the regional, I think I ran a yellow Murc... But I did run the 350Z for modified with a Kyosho stock motor at DOW...

I totally forgot to thank Wade for the layout... After a pretty long straight, to dive into that rythm section it was pretty difficult, but a lot of fun. With the combination of multiple tracks, there were sections that I felt had more grip and less grip. I think this added to the feel of the track. If you adjusted to get the car good at one section of the track, it hurt in others. Since Matt and I usually drive larger layouts, I think this worked to our advantage, but not too much, as the field wasnt too far away.

Pedro, I also wanted to comment that you had a good show on the track. Judging by the stats, I think that puts you in 2nd place overall for the weekend :) Job well done my friend. (although I dont know how the points are distributed).

I did see Landons pic of f******k of the GT2 A main stats (he just wants the world to know that he beat me :P) Everyone was so close on pace. There was just .7s difference in average lap time from everyone in the race. With the exception of Matt, the fast lap was seperated by .2s for the field :eek:
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207686_10150160589963464_817423463_6606684_917723_ n.jpg

pedrocamp
2011.04.11, 12:18 PM
Landon, thanks for the kind words. I wish I could have been a bit more fluent with the timing system but Mark did well with very little experience with it. We picked the ZRound to use with the ILap though because we knew Chad and yourself would be there to help us out of the inevitable jam.
Thanks EMU. I have to thank my wife for my decent showing, she let me go to the track Friday night to sort out my junk. I always show up at these events with a car I have never driven and this was no different, other than this time I did have the opportunity and got my CanAm working alright. My LM had been junk for most of the Reflex series at High Speed but with a bit of tuning Friday it came right and was the car I had the most fun driving, extremely tossable... I could pitch it sideways at full speed to slow it down at the end of the long straight to get it into the slaloms. Maybe not the fastest way but really fun! I ran the QTEQ t-plates on all my cars and recommend them, they take a bit of setup time but when right they work very well.
I can't thank the rest of the High Speed guys enough. I took the lead on this deal at HT cause I live just down the road and have been obviously pushing for MiniZ racing at this venue. All the guys pitched in and I hope all had fun. I also hope we can have some other events at HT, as well as High Speed, in the near future.

hrdrvr
2011.04.11, 05:19 PM
Nice writeup Landon... I think that the first time we raced was at DOW. I dont remember running the 350Z at the regional, I think I ran a yellow Murc... But I did run the 350Z for modified with a Kyosho stock motor at DOW...

After a pretty long straight, to dive into that rythm section it was pretty difficult, but a lot of fun.

I did see Landons pic of f******k of the GT2 A main stats (he just wants the world to know that he beat me :P) Everyone was so close on pace. There was just .7s difference in average lap time from everyone in the race. With the exception of Matt, the fast lap was seperated by .2s for the field :eek:

It was at the PA regional at the mushroom bowl where Ed and the DOW guys hosted. Thinking back, I really don't remember which class it was in, or if it was even a main. I distinctly remember you running the little 350Z along side people with their big and wide cars, and was very impressed :D I also remember you ran a myriad of cars that weekend, including a couple of different pan cars (one being the MRCG, and one being a car you had just gotten from Khang).

The end of the straight complex was my favorite spot on the layout. Maybe because I was faster than most people through there :D The last layout we ran at CFI had the same 3 wide straight leading to the offset hair pins. It was more like a chicane than a rhythm section, but entry was equally as important, and the line was almost exactly the same coming in. That teamed with the fact that I was standing almost directly across from my lift point, and I was running through the section coming right back at me gave me some what of an advantage there. I passed Pedro there for third position in the main, and was constantly gaining ground on whoever was close to me. The left side of the track was where I made 95% of my mistakes.

You are right, I posted that pic on FB 'cause I want the world to know I got ya! :D I can remember at least a half dozen races where I have finished less than 2 seconds behind you, with a few under a second. I can also distinctly remember one where I gave you the position on the last lap :(

The first one is the hardest to get, so watch out! :p


Pedro, You deserve the kind words. You'll deserve them more if you get the GT A-Main video loaded soon :p:p

I didn't get a chance to work on the results, but I will try my best to get them up tonight or tomorrow.

Daddy Rabbit
2011.04.11, 05:43 PM
I am not a man of many words, unlike my son and Eugene.:D BUT that was a great day of racing and socializing.:)
Many thanks to Pedro and Mark and the people behind the scenes such as Wade and his crew. Thanks to all the sponsers for their generosity.
It seems that the young (you guys are lucky to have Conner, Lincoln and Lj and the others coming up in the ranks) get better and an old guy like me gets slower.:( I know you guys at HSH realize how fortunate you are to have such a great crowd of new and experienced racers. I look forward to the next race and the comradery with a great group of guys from all over.:D

cosmicsoul
2011.04.11, 06:15 PM
Thanks Sai for coming through with some great prizes from Atomic! Can't wait to try my new batteries

Thanks Christian, Reflex is the bomb!

Thanks PN!

Action B you are awesome!

Thanks to all the sponsors and those who donated there time, resources and efforts!

Really thanks to everyone who showed up! It's really because of all of you that these events are a success.

Especially thanks to all the out of towners we know it took alot of effort to get here!

Until next time friends!

EMU
2011.04.11, 07:09 PM
It was at the PA regional at the mushroom bowl where Ed and the DOW guys hosted. Thinking back, I really don't remember which class it was in, or if it was even a main. I distinctly remember you running the little 350Z along side people with their big and wide cars, and was very impressed :D I also remember you ran a myriad of cars that weekend, including a couple of different pan cars (one being the MRCG, and one being a car you had just gotten from Khang).


I think you are right... I probably drove it for the first qualifier, and decided that I needed a little more stability. So many races since then, and you remember what cars I was driving :eek:

Traveler
2011.04.11, 07:10 PM
Creepy! I'd sleep with one eye open Eugene in case he's stalking you in your sleep. :eek:

VAzRACER
2011.04.11, 08:18 PM
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28906&highlight=2008&page=17

Chek out post 248. The only reason I remember this is because the Mclaren I raced was in the pic. :D

EMU
2011.04.11, 08:52 PM
So, now there is proof. lol. That little MR015 had some boogie... It was a lot of fun to drive as well. Ah, the good old days.
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc129/michvin27/PN2of8.jpg

Look how wide my line was back then :eek:

Mike Keely
2011.04.11, 09:55 PM
[QUOTE=hrdrvr;411853]Ill type up a full race report from my perspective. If its not too long, Ill post it here. [ QUOTE]


I thought that was the race report! LOL:D

lfisminiz
2011.04.11, 09:56 PM
Thanks for the memories! HOT and HUMID and a great race with freinds.:)

Felix2010
2011.04.11, 11:10 PM
Who ran what motors in the CanAm Race(s) with the Open Motor/Open Battery/Open Tire rules??? I'm really curious to hear what guys brought the fire for the All-Open quasi-Outlaw CanAM class! :D

EMU
2011.04.11, 11:43 PM
I ran the motor that was in the car from the previous race that I used the car... it was a handout PN 50t bushing motor, with Team Scream 900 cells. In the MR03 that I ran for the first qualifier I used an ATM 48t 17mm, but the car was just a little too edgy, and I couldnt push it as much (new build from the night before), so I went with the MR02 that was about .5-1s faster. It carried more speed in the corners, so it didnt bother me that I was a little under powered.

Matt ran the ATM 35t round can (T2 Plus) if I remember correctly.

In Lemans, I ran a Chili with Team Scream 900 cells.

pedrocamp
2011.04.12, 07:13 AM
Ran an 03 with a Speedy 07 arm in a new style PN can with thin neo mags. R246 LiFe batteries. LM K30 fronts on Mazda wheels and standard K20 on 21 +3 PN dish rear. Car was quite a bit more edgy then my LM class car which had LM tires all around, 43T PN and TRP 900 batts.

hrdrvr
2011.04.12, 08:13 AM
I think you are right... I probably drove it for the first qualifier, and decided that I needed a little more stability. So many races since then, and you remember what cars I was driving :eek:

I don't always remember so much, especially about what others are driving. That weekend was kind of special to me. It was my first race out of the Carolina's, first PN race, first race with more than 20 people, first race with sponsored drivers present, etc... I met a bunch of people up there who are big names in hobby as well as meeting a bunch of guys who I consider good friends now (you, Matt, Larry, Ed, etc..).


Creepy! I'd sleep with one eye open Eugene in case he's stalking you in your sleep. :eek:

Doesn't every one sleep with one eye open...or am I just paranoid? :o


Chek out post 248. The only reason I remember this is because the Mclaren I raced was in the pic. :D

I think that picture is part of the reason I remember so well. There were a lot of great pics from that event, and for some reason, this one always sticks out in my memory. I didn't even know that was your McLaren, but I have memories of that yellow 575 :D Wasn't that berm, or mini berm? They sat behind my dad and I, and were super nice to us.


So, now there is proof. lol. That little MR015 had some boogie... It was a lot of fun to drive as well. Ah, the good old days.

Look how wide my line was back then :eek:

Just say you were going wide to carry more speed down that little straight that followed the sweeper :D I don't think I hit the hairpin at the end of it right, but maybe a dozen or so times that whole day. Every time I hit it right was in the F1. The other two cars wouldn't turn enough, and I didn't have the discipline to let off.


I thought that was the race report! LOL:D

Lol, this is a full race report ;)
http://ccrecap.blogspot.com/2011/03/lts-capital-challenge-recap.html

Ironically after all this talk of memory, I don't remember the one race I was in all that much, lol. I was only in one, and it was only a couple of days ago, but honestly, I only remember but about three of four corners from the it. This report will be much shorter, lol.


Thanks for the memories! HOT and HUMID and a great race with freinds.:)

It was hot and humid, but some of my first mini-Z memories and friends were made that weekend!

Traveler
2011.04.12, 09:54 AM
Who ran what motors in the CanAm Race(s) with the Open Motor/Open Battery/Open Tire rules??? I'm really curious to hear what guys brought the fire for the All-Open quasi-Outlaw CanAM class! :D

I'm not a top driver by any stretch, so keep that in mind while reading this!

My CanAm car was a 100mm WB MR-03 under a PN hard shell Pan Car body with the rear totally cut out (thanks for the loaner James!). In terms of motor, I started out with an old PN Saber (35T) which worked very well. In practice on Thursday, I switched to the new style PN 35T, but it was way too much motor for my driving skill. For the heats and main, I ran a PN 43T which was about right for my level, but I'm wishing I'd stuck with the PN Saber. :)

hrdrvr
2011.04.12, 03:16 PM
Here are the couple of pics I took of the layout.

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-09_17-38-33_251.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-09_17-42-21_41.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-09_17-42-44_102.jpg


I had a little trouble with the file converter, so I decided to do it the old fashioned way. It doesn't have the lap times, but at least it has the position chart, and the final rankings.

Sportsman
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-33-06_239.jpg

hrdrvr
2011.04.12, 03:16 PM
GT2
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-33-16_409.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-33-26_996.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-33-36_316.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-33-48_376.jpg


LMP1
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-34-03_122.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-34-12_618.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-34-22_794.jpg


CanAm1
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-35-01_83.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-35-09_798.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/MBMZR/20110412%20CCC%20R1/2011-04-12_13-35-21_822.jpg

Traveler
2011.04.12, 04:06 PM
Thanks for posting these Landon! I have to give it Chad, he delivered this time. Good runs!

On a separate note, I'd like someone to explain to me how a racer can finish on the same lap as the guy ahead of him, but with a lower mean that the guy ahead. Seems like something is wrong with the software. Don't think its mathematically possible:confused:

hrdrvr
2011.04.12, 04:21 PM
The mean is based on full laps, but the rank is based off of total time. If you are talking about Wade and EMU, its because EMU started on pole and crossed the line the for first time way before Wade who started last. Then Wade finished rigbt behind him.

Traveler
2011.04.12, 05:14 PM
Was talking about me and Jay in the LM B Main, but this same thing appears in several races. I was assuming that the mean was total time devided by total laps. But if I understand what you're saying, the mean calculation excludes the amount of time it takes to get from your starting point on the grid to the bridge (the first time), but that amount of time is included in determining the rank. That would explain how someone running faster laps (lower mean) could come in behind someone running slower laps (higher mean) if it took the faster car longer to get to the bridge from the start. This is consistent with what EMU tried to tell me. Thanks! :)

EMU
2011.04.12, 05:15 PM
Landon is completely right about the mean time... Since I crossed the timing loop first off the start, and finished just in front of Wade, his average lap was faster than mine, even if just slightly...

Thanks for the data... :)

hrdrvr
2011.04.13, 02:40 PM
Was talking about me and Jay in the LM B Main, but this same thing appears in several races. I was assuming that the mean was total time devided by total laps. But if I understand what you're saying, the mean calculation excludes the amount of time it takes to get from your starting point on the grid to the bridge (the first time), but that amount of time is included in determining the rank. That would explain how someone running faster laps (lower mean) could come in behind someone running slower laps (higher mean) if it took the faster car longer to get to the bridge from the start. This is consistent with what EMU tried to tell me. Thanks! :)

You understand it. I was short on words, since I was typing from my phone :D In the LM B, you finished .3 behind Jay. You must have started less than that in front of him, which is also understandable, since he should have been right behind you coming under the loop. That was a great run by the way. If you car would have handled for 8 minutes like it did the last two, you would have run away with that race. Jay had a great run to get out in front though. He has really stepped his game up lately too!


In case any one is interested, here is a link to my blog on the event. I know its a lot of text, but I really enjoy re-living the race as much as I like living it :D If no one else benefits from my ramblings...oh well :p

http://ccrecap.blogspot.com/2011/04/carolina-cup-challenge-round-1-recap.html

EMU
2011.04.13, 05:19 PM
If I remember correctly, Marwan missed the start in LM B. Must have been daydreaming or something... envisioning victory. He had the fastest car on the track, but it looked like he pushed a little too hard once he got near the front. In general, when Im leading or close to the leader, I cruise as much as I can to keep consistency up.

Nice write up on the blog. I felt like I was reliving the race in realtime... I love this quote "On a good run off the straight, I came through the rhythm section quick, and saw on the last apex EMU parked, and Matt going wide to get by. I tried to tuck inside thinking EMU would back off of the wall by the time I got there, but he did the responsible thing and waited for me to get by. So, instead of getting by, I hit him in the side and knocked him off of the wall." Im pretty sure that was when the body dislodged... And it stayed that way for the rest of the race. Even when I tumbled... it stayed on, I called for body work, but it probably looked and felt like it was on correctly... Funny thing was, Matt asked me if I wanted body tape right before the main :rolleyes: Nobody to blame but myself.

Traveler
2011.04.13, 06:45 PM
If I remember correctly, Marwan missed the start in LM B. Must have been daydreaming or something...

You're exactly right. I wasn't ready and don't think I even had my hand on the wheel. By the time I could react, some had gone around me and the rest plowed into me :( Will have to confirm this when the vids are uploaded. Won't happen again!

cosmicsoul
2011.04.13, 11:20 PM
[ I called for body work, but it probably looked and felt like it was on correctly... Funny thing was, Matt asked me if I wanted body tape right before the main :rolleyes: Nobody to blame but myself.[/QUOTE]

I heard you call for body work but it was all I could do not to roll all over the straight while getting your car turned over. My ankle still hurts from that manuever. I hate marshalling the A main races.

It was a very unfortunate start for Marwan in the LM B we did trade positions on several occasions, he had several opportunities for victory. It really could have been anyones race.

Mostly I am just happy I made it to the A main in 2 of three classes. I know it was a small field overall but I'll take it. Next time I am shooting for a podium postion or multiple podium positions in the A's.

I would like to give a special shout out to James Pickard my pit crew chief and his super tuning abilities. Pedro my electrical engineer. Last but not least Wade my body man and R and D engineer.

If you need a good body mounting system and paint job for the new PN bodies Wade is the man.

hrdrvr
2011.04.14, 08:03 AM
Haha, EMU, body tape can make a big difference. You said it was effecting the handling though, right? You need to get some of whatever that stuff is that Chad gave me, lol. My body came off like 10-12 times in practice. Sometimes just from soft hits on the outside wall coming onto the straight. I used his goo, and the body didn't come off one single time during any qualifiers or the main. I had some pretty good hits with the wall through out the day, and I was murdering Pedro in the second round. We got together like 5 or 6 times that one race. The body never budged with the goo.

I don't know why I thought your body came all the way off. You must have called for body work after the second hit. I thought I dislodged it on the first one. I know I never saw you on track again after the second hit. Your body looked half jacked up to me the whole day though, lol.


Marwan, never say never :D If you race enough races, you'll miss a start again :D Your car looked great at the end of the race, but Jay is right, you had a few shots to seal the deal, and couldn't make it happen :D For me the LM B was the most exciting race of the day to watch. I missed your start. I was watching Daddy Rabbit, who had a tough one too. He and Don had a great battle going through the middle of the race, and about the time Don started looking comfortable, you started getting close to Jay. Actually Jay was following them while they were battling for quite a few laps. If he could have gotten by, the end of the race may not have been so close. Neither of them wanted to let him go, as they were neck and neck :D He did the responsible thing, and it made for a good race at the end!


You've come a long way Jay. ;)

Traveler
2011.04.14, 08:24 AM
It was a very unfortunate start for Marwan in the LM B we did trade positions on several occasions, he had several opportunities for victory. It really could have been anyones race.


Marwan, never say never :D If you race enough races, you'll miss a start again :D Your car looked great at the end of the race, but Jay is right, you had a few shots to seal the deal, and couldn't make it happen :D For me the LM B was the most exciting race of the day to watch. I missed your start. I was watching Daddy Rabbit, who had a tough one too. He and Don had a great battle going through the middle of the race, and about the time Don started looking comfortable, you started getting close to Jay. Actually Jay was following them while they were battling for quite a few laps. If he could have gotten by, the end of the race may not have been so close. Neither of them wanted to let him go, as they were neck and neck :D He did the responsible thing, and it made for a good race at the end!

You've come a long way Jay. ;)

If it came across like I was trying to downplay Jay's win, that wasn't my intent. I was just trying to figure out how someone with a lower mean could finish behind someone with a higher mean. :confused: Now I know and am satisfied. :)

For the record, Jay won that race fair and square, and I have no one to blame for my performance but myself. :o

Everybody happy now? :)

hrdrvr
2011.04.14, 08:41 AM
Haha, I was happy before :p I didn't think you were downplaying it at all. I was just pointing out another facet of the race that you may not have known about. Honestly, while Jay was held up behind them, I could see him getting nervous about you coming for him. You were actually clicking off fast laps, and Jay was having to listen to it over the speaker while keeping his cool and letting the old guys battle it out. I saw a lot of maturity in his racing at that point, which is the other reason I wanted to make a note of it.

Traveler
2011.04.14, 09:10 AM
Landon, I'd like to see both the individual points standings (which I suspect EMU is at the top of) and the standings for NC/SC clubs. Not sure how the points system works, so I'm waiting for you to compile this info and post it :)

Davey G
2011.04.14, 09:28 AM
DId anyone take trophy presentation pics??

Daddy Rabbit
2011.04.14, 11:00 AM
The reason Marwan missed that start was because I was talking to him to keep him off gaurd.:D JUST KIDDING!!!! He did make a good come back, good racing to Jay and Marwan in all the races.

Traveler
2011.04.14, 12:11 PM
Thanks DR! You always know the right thing to say. Wish I had come down a day early and spent the night with Jay. We could have had a good time.

Next time I will try not to run all classes so I can have some time on race day to socialize a bit more like Landon did. I always feel too rushed to have a decent conversation with anyone.

Daddy Rabbit
2011.04.14, 01:02 PM
I think LT enjoyed that race more than any race he and I have been together,
I could see it in his face, voice and accomplisments on the track.
DID I SPELL THAT CORRECTLY?
He even had time to help me, even though I did not put it to good use.:confused:

hrdrvr
2011.04.14, 04:15 PM
DID I SPELL THAT CORRECTLY?

Close enough to get credit ;)

I did have a great time, and really had the time to work on my car, which is never the case when I am either marshalling, or racing every single heat. That, and I am typically giving support on the PC between heats.

Daddy Rabbit
2011.04.14, 08:02 PM
Thanks DR! You always know the right thing to say. Wish I had come down a day early and spent the night with Jay. We could have had a good time.

Next time I will try not to run all classes so I can have some time on race day to socialize a bit more like Landon did. I always feel too rushed to have a decent conversation with anyone.

I stay away from Jay the night before a race, he gets me in trouble, us old guys cannot keep up with that youth.:)

EMU
2011.04.14, 08:44 PM
Hanging with Jay the night before the race was great. I havent laughed that much in a while. I think that it made me faster the next day ;)

chad508
2011.04.14, 09:02 PM
Hanging with Jay the night before the race was great. I havent laughed that much in a while. I think that it made me faster the next day ;)

dang it Jay. :D

pedrocamp
2011.04.16, 12:53 PM
Sorry guys, hope to get the videos up soon, having trouble getting the races off my old Canon MiniDV camcorder... been at it all morning with no luck. I knew I should have passed this off to Landon!

I also need to stop by the printer's and get the missing certificates.

Davey, I think someone got some photos of at least some of the certificate presentations... anyone?

Sorry about the delays, had to take care of a few things outside of MiniZ.