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RacerRecar
2011.10.03, 10:17 AM
Has this product been reviewed by anyone? Does anyone have it?

RacerRecar
2011.10.03, 11:44 AM
Here are some pics

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32188&d=1317656635

RacerRecar
2011.10.03, 12:05 PM
Here are the pictures.

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32188&d=1317656635

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32191&stc=1&d=1317658046

Atomic-USA
2011.10.03, 12:43 PM
Here is a race video you can see how the cars behave on this track: http://www.youtube.com/user/atomicminiz#p/u/8/KeHrebe6XEQ

Carpet, not necessarily the Atomic carpet, has the following advantages for Mini-z:

- drastically reduce traction roll
- no tire dust
- no need to true tires or lower the car to the ground
- shops generally sell a lot more Narrow bodies and AWD kits/parts since traction roll is not an issue
- carpet tires don't go bad in the package or have limited shelf life
- no need to use any chemical to clean tires (razor blade works well for cleaning tires)
- less "hacking" or flipping other over when you tap another car
- Drivers learning throttle control or finesses
- In general, the focus of driving is more important than having expensive hop-ups
- lower running costs (stock setup or simple DPS equipped cars work fine)
- long tire life (except modified racing - 2WD rear tire wear)
- more stable traction with much less changes due to humidity/temp. change

Here is another local exciting 3-way battle race video(*Kyosho recommended black carpet shown at www.cruizinrc.com)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RFT95jwAzw

As a promotion, any hobby shop who decides to switch to carpet Mini-z racing will receive a generous tire package from Atomic.

I'd also suggest people looking around at Home Depot or carpet store for thin carpet. My friend bought a few inexpensive 6' x 9' carpet from the price club and it works well for Mini-z.

Ancient Artist
2011.10.03, 01:36 PM
Here are the pictures.

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32188&d=1317656635

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32191&stc=1&d=1317658046

Is this track carpet?
I thought it was just a different color rubber type material similar to the RCP surface?

Atomic-USA
2011.10.03, 02:07 PM
This is grey carpet.

Old Crow
2011.10.03, 03:03 PM
I thought there was a copyright/patent issue with this track and RCP?
If not, where is this available in the U.S.?

Cherub1m
2011.10.03, 03:16 PM
As a promotion, any hobby shop who decides to switch to carpet Mini-z racing will receive a generous tire package from Atomic.



Very nice.

I thought there was a copyright/patent issue with this track and RCP?
If not, where is this available in the U.S.?

Looks like they ironed it out, they have a US patent number on their site.

Gofast
2011.10.03, 05:59 PM
I was at this race. The yellow NSX on the lower left of the 1st pic is mine. Even though you can see the tile edges this track is way smoother than RCPs. The only weakness I saw during the 2 day event is that the track pins keep popping off. Hopefully, they have fixed it.

Here are the pictures.

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32188&d=1317656635

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32191&stc=1&d=1317658046

Cherub1m
2011.10.03, 06:57 PM
I was at this race. The yellow NSX on the lower left of the 1st pic is mine. Even though you can see the tile edges this track is way smoother than RCPs. The only weakness I saw during the 2 day event is that the track pins keep popping off. Hopefully, they have fixed it.

:D can you tell us a little more about the feel, traction, and how the 2wd and awd drive on it?

Also, does anyone know if its is available in the US?

Gofast
2011.10.04, 01:18 PM
I have only been on RCPs until that event. Funny you asked about the feel. I felt like the car was on an ice skating ring but with good traction. The traction is very consistent. I was worried about the grain of the carpet from tile to tile. However, it didn't seem to have any effect.

You definitely need carpet specific setup. For AWD you need to have the Atomic SAS or Kyosho DWS.

Interestingly, the 2 tracks in HK are both on carpet and they didn't adopt this new Atomic system though. Just sayin....

Atomic-USA
2011.10.04, 01:51 PM
GoFast, This track was new when you and I first ran on it(I was the blue car clipping the apex on first pic). We had limited to no carpet experience back then. Once a lot of cars with carpet tires run on the track the traction will stabilize(it only took one day that time). Now with new ATM 7 degree Rear carpet tires there is no worry of getting rear traction; even when carpet is new.

Tracks in Hong Kong are built because the labor cost is low and in confined space custom plastic thin rails result in more track space. A modular track is more appropriate for countries where labor costs are high and space is not an issue.

Interestingly, Cherub1m has an insanely fast and simple AWD for carpet racing using only Atomic carbonaceous lightweight knuckles and few other parts. At our local race track we have DWS vs. SAS-III vs. stock type setup.

mitchy2759
2011.10.05, 01:00 AM
does it mean all the indutsrial carpet track setup can be use here? because my car's setup are based on this track. i'm thinking of getting this track to replace the old carpet that are not smooth anymore (too many wrinkle).thx.

RacerRecar
2011.10.09, 08:55 PM
I can't find this track anywhere, is it available in the US?

herman
2011.10.10, 03:09 AM
also curious as to how much they are... :D

Digitalis West
2011.10.10, 04:18 AM
I can't find this track anywhere, is it available in the US?

I do not think distribution is possible in the US

Atomic-USA
2011.10.10, 08:02 AM
The topic of the thread is about the review of a product.

International shipping is the major issue with the track; that's why I recommended people to build an inexpensive carpet track instead in the earlier posts.

RacerRecar
2011.10.11, 02:13 PM
also curious as to how much they are... :D

Looks like a standard L shaped Atomic Carpet Track is selling for $232.30 at EGR Mart but they are located in Hong Kong. Pricing is not bad, just shipping like Atomic-USA said would be very high

RacerRecar
2011.10.15, 10:59 PM
I just saw Atomic-USA post on a thread here on MZR some nice carpet tiles he ran his Mini Z on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU0-wtbiH-k

and a link to the site

http://www.getrung.com/rcmod.html

I may have check it out.

Atomic-USA
2011.10.16, 09:47 AM
I'm re-posting the photos of the generic carpet tiles, which are perfect for Mini-z carpet racing and you may find them at your local hardware stores:

Usually with lighter color tiles the joints are more visible and may appear uneven. However, You can hardly see the joints:

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32243&stc=1&d=1318531881

Thin, light, inexpensive and support the Mini-z well(not bumpy) while providing great traction(with Atomic Carpet tires):
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32244&stc=1&d=1318531881

I am not 100% sure if these tiles are same as Getrung. I believe you can call Getrung for a sample.

I'm sure there are other suitable industrial/commercial carpet out there that racers can build a track for under $1.50 USD / sq. ft.

Once again any track owner who converts to carpet racing will receive a generous tire package from Atomic as promotion. Contact me for details.

Chrismelb
2011.12.15, 08:39 PM
Does anyone have a close up pic of the carpet fibre? and know what these tracks are like for drifting? or have any experience racing on them?

I want to get one, but before I pay the huge cost to sea freight one ($250; live in Australia) id like to make sure they are good for drifting and nice smooth.

I love the idea of carpet tracks and the colour is good, i will be able to see my dark coloured cars on this

Regards

Chris

Skv012a
2011.12.15, 09:58 PM
Oh wow! At first glance it didn't even hit me that this is a jigsaw tile track just like RCP. Good job guys!

LED
2011.12.16, 02:11 AM
How is the use of silicone tires on it?
Same problem with loss of traction for rubber tires, as so many say..