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Atomic-USA
2011.12.22, 08:32 AM
EDITED..........See post #5 below

Coil-over conversion for MB-010.
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32443&stc=1&d=1325087076
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32434&stc=1&d=1324564310

GIHOSU
2011.12.22, 08:35 AM
Pretty cool idea, will there be a selection of springs too?

EMU
2011.12.22, 10:20 AM
Looks good. I like that they are retaining the stock shock bodies :p

oXYnary
2011.12.22, 03:06 PM
Oh nice. Like the progressive springs. Still hope someone makes hard/teflon coated rebuildable big bore shocks for it though.

Atomic-USA
2011.12.28, 09:42 AM
Here are the part numbers.

KMB002 -- Mini-Z Buggy adjustable coil-over shock conversion kit

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32443&stc=1&d=1325087076

- Increased coil spring diameter for better shock absorbing performance

- Quick and easy ride height changes by turning the spring collars

- Each package comes with four coil springs and collars
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KMB001 -- Mini-Z Buggy Alunimun dog bone. (1 pair)

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32442&stc=1&d=1325087034

cdog4w
2011.12.29, 02:55 PM
How does the threaded sleeve that the shock collars thread onto mount to the shock body? Glue it down? Something needs to hold it down so that you can rotate just the collar and not the sleeve with it.

Looks great otherwise. Price/date for US?

EMU
2011.12.30, 01:33 AM
I assume that it is a snug fit, installed without the collar, and when the collar is installed it tightens onto the shock body sufficiently that it wouldnt move.

oXYnary
2011.12.30, 02:44 AM
But then isn't there a chance it could bind the piston? I realize its a thick body, but still its only plastic.

kryten
2011.12.30, 04:53 AM
If those drive shafts are available before kyosho CVD's,i can see them selling lots!

nicov
2012.01.16, 06:53 AM
I mounted this atomic coil-over conversion - it is a tight fit indeed.
KMB002 comes with 'black' springs - already a bit harder than the stock Kyosho
KMB002-SS is silver springs - softer
KMB002-SG is gold springs - harder

The great thing is that the springs are shorter, so you can lower the ride height to about 5 milimeters only.

kryten
2012.01.16, 06:54 AM
We got them in today,drive shafts too. :D

Q t
2012.01.17, 11:46 PM
has anybody made a full video or reviewed these upgrades yet?

kryten
2012.01.18, 05:08 AM
I have fitted them,but not had a chance to do a full test yet. Though if you have kyosho ball diffs fitted you will have to open up the outdrive slots a little for the drive shafts as they are extremely tight.

Atomic-USA
2012.01.19, 08:27 AM
New products:

KMB005 -
Mini-Z Buggy Graphite Oil Shock Stay Set (Fr/Rr) + body mount

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/medium/atomic/KMB005_m.jpg

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/addition_atomic/KMB005_inst.jpg


Effectively increases buggy stability upon landing after a jump
Multiple shock angle settings
Made from 2mm Graphite for weight reduction and low CG
Body mount design body prevents body from popping off.

Atomic-USA
2012.01.19, 08:32 AM
KMB004 - Buggy Wheels for On-road/all-terrain tires

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/medium/atomic/KMB004_m.jpg

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/addition_atomic/KMB004_inst.jpg

Tires:

TL-026 --- TL-029 10deg - 40deg tires
http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/large/atomic/TL026_028_l.jpg

kryten
2012.01.19, 09:09 AM
Nice tyres :) Do you intend do do any in std lazer size,but different compounds?

nicov
2012.01.19, 09:41 AM
I can see that these tires are Atomic for Team Losi Micro-T .
Worth the try on RCP tracks I believe :)

What happenned to part ref KMB003 ?
If these are narrow rims for front wheels, I need them :D

oXYnary
2012.01.19, 02:50 PM
New products:

KMB005 -
Mini-Z Buggy Graphite Oil Shock Stay Set (Fr/Rr) + body mount

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/medium/atomic/KMB005_m.jpg

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/addition_atomic/KMB005_inst.jpg


Effectively increases buggy stability upon landing after a jump
Multiple shock angle settings
Made from 2mm Graphite for weight reduction and low CG
Body mount design body prevents body from popping off.


Are these available now in Hong Kong? I know somebody over there right this minute (though I think he is coming home in next few days.

Because

ME WANTS!


The tires, not so much. Ruins the look of the Lazer with them being same size. f/r. They also are a smaller diameter rim, which may be good for on-road, but off road not so much. If you came out with some tires that fit the stock lazer size rims without repurposing some micro-t tires...??

Q t
2012.01.19, 11:06 PM
kinda off the topic but in the pics, the front cvds are silver instead of red. maybe a new cvd design already? or just a different color. hoping that its a cvd attached to the spindals....

kryten
2012.01.20, 05:21 AM
universals are due end feb/early march.

Rune
2012.01.20, 07:04 AM
Silicium Rubber?
This means they contain silicone right?

Any plans for RCP tires for the Lazer rims in the future?

oXYnary
2012.01.20, 08:07 PM
Sweet, a local racer is in HK right now and got those towers for me. Of course, he wont be back until Feb. But since the Chinese new years is next week, I still might get it before Atomic can ship to distributors internationally.

GIHOSU
2012.01.20, 10:13 PM
Nice score oXYnary, best of luck :D

Q t seems to have good eyes, my guess is that the buggy in the pics has front CVDs

I like the body post that was added to the rear setup and the alloy shock mounts look great. I may have to get one and thread the wing tab holes for my Short Course body mount.

Are there any plans for another color beside red? The Atomic color poll indicates lime green as having 16.2% support in 2nd place and red behind it with 11.4% of the vote. I want to see some green parts or there will be some oven cleaner and a sharpie in my future. Green and gold go so well together. Does anyone else have a thought to add?

Guinness
2012.01.23, 08:29 AM
Do the tires fit the stock optima rims?

nicov
2012.02.07, 11:30 AM
Just mounted on-road rims + tires, quite smaller overall diameter, same width for front and rear, so you need to play on tires softness to balance your car.
Need to try these on RCP now :D
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/13/00/17/86/atomic10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=52&u=13001786)

First run with 40 front and 30 rear on RCP: good balance of the car, but due to smaller wheels diameter, higher revs of the motor. You need a bigger pinion and higher RPM motor than stock to enjoy these on-road wheels.

oXYnary
2012.02.09, 03:07 AM
So I got the Towers in today. They are pretty cool. However there seems to be an error with the peg hole for the wing mount. Its too small on the aluminum tower mount. So I had to wittle the peg down on the plastic mount a little to get it to fit.

Also was missing one of the longer screws for the balls.

Dont have a camera, but cdog4w got a set as well so maybe he will post when he installs? That and I sealed my tower edges with CA, and got a little over zealous so there is that white discoloring from too much CA.

Atomic-USA
2012.02.14, 02:03 PM
New Buggy Parts:

KMB003 Aluminum Universal shafts:
http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/medium/KMB003_m.jpg

KMB006 6mm wheel nuts for MB-010 Buggy:

Larger clamping area for tighter wheel fit and less wobbling:
http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/medium/atomic/KMB006_m.jpg

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/addition_atomic/KMB006_inst.jpg

cdog4w
2012.02.21, 02:46 PM
Some comments on the shock stay kit and the threaded shock adapters. I haven't run with them yet, but have installed them.

Threaded shocks:
It would have been nice if the springs could slip over the shock end so I don't have to unscrew them to change springs. oxynary suggested you can but it requires a bit of extra force. Are these designed to slip over the end (tightly) or not? As other people said, the ability to lower the buggy should prove nice when running on RCP.

Shock towers:
Look great and offer more positions, but I feel like the included parts were a bit off. The biggest issue was the rear body post, the manual called for a 2x6 machine screw, but that length is not adequate to the task. The manual content list shows 5 2x8 machine screws, but only 4 were packaged, so I had to use a 2x8 machine screw I had in a parts box. The next issue is that the holes for the wing mount's plastic key tabs were too small. I had to shave the tabs to get them to fit in. Additionally, atomic provided extra screws to mount the CF towers that are nice to have spares of, but no reason the stock tower mount screws can't be used. I'd have rather gotten that 5th 2x8!

I'll post again when I've run the buggy with all parts installed. Looks great :)

oXYnary
2012.02.23, 03:27 PM
The threads on the shocks adapters and the retaining screw are somewhat too loose, so I can come back into the pits after a run and my rideheight has lowered. Im going to see if I can find some clear enamel or clear nail polish to put a strip down the back side of the threads to see if that retains the screw better without making it too hard to turn.

Also, setting my ride-height with the dogbones level in rear and slightly raised front end. When I use the stock droop without screws. At full droop the Atomic shocks aren't long enough and disengage from the retaining screw. So in other words, coming off jumps and landing, the first few mm of the arm hitting the ground, I have no spring retention until the arm moves high enough that the spring reengages/recenters on the retaining screw.

These springs may be good for on-road and I seem to have more stable recovery from jumps. I do question though if they are a mm too short for stock maximum droop??

Atomic?

gctkaz
2012.03.01, 05:03 PM
First run with 40 front and 30 rear on RCP: good balance of the car, but due to smaller wheels diameter, higher revs of the motor. You need a bigger pinion and higher RPM motor than stock to enjoy these on-road wheels.
I'm running these wheels 40F+40R just on hard floor/tile around my house, and yeah it's pretty slow-ish using the 15t pinion and stock motor. Somehow my buggy never had a 13t pinion in the package, but I'm going to use 15t all the time.

I installed a 3Racing super stock AWD motor and agreed it's way more fun now :) Also using the coil-over set and alloy universals after stripping a dogbone.
I should have a chance to rip it on RCP this weekend.

Atomic-USA
2012.03.08, 12:07 AM
http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/medium/atomic/TS-134_m.jpg

TS-134 Titanium Screw set:

Hex, 2 x 10 mm TPB ---- 8 pcs.
Hex, 2 x 8 mm TPB ---- 4 pcs.
Hex, 2 x 6 mm TPB --- 18 pcs.
Hex, 2 x 6 mm TKB ----- 8 pcs.
Hex, 2 x 4 mm TPM ---- 2 pcs.
Hex, 1.2 x 3.5 mm PM -- 2 pcs.

oXYnary
2012.03.12, 07:28 PM
What allen/hex wrench size will be appropriate for the above?

Atomic-USA
2012.04.05, 08:12 AM
What allen/hex wrench size will be appropriate for the above?

1.5mm Hex Wrench

Atomic-USA
2012.04.05, 08:15 AM
KMB007

1-piece Hardened driveshaft coupler with pinion gear

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/atomic/KMB007_l.jpg

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/addition_atomic/KMB007_inst1.jpg

-One piece Gear with Drive Cup design resolves the gear slipping problem with original unit. Improves driving/jumping/mid-air performance along with higher stability.

-Center drive cup is hardened for added durability.

-High precision machine cut brass gear resulting in longer gear life.

gctkaz
2012.05.13, 01:34 PM
I bought the new adjustable motor mount from EGR Mart. Mine did not come with screws! Also, it seems like some other option part - I am guessing the Atomic graphite shock stay set - is required, otherwise there is no way to mount the body and the stock ball links?

I really want to install this but it is completely useless to me right now. I'm a bit disappointed with what seems to be a trend in careless packaging, since another Atomic MR-02 motor mount I bought was also missing screws.

oXYnary
2012.05.13, 07:28 PM
I bought the new adjustable motor mount from EGR Mart. Mine did not come with screws! Also, it seems like some other option part - I am guessing the Atomic graphite shock stay set - is required, otherwise there is no way to mount the body and the stock ball links?

I really want to install this but it is completely useless to me right now. I'm a bit disappointed with what seems to be a trend in careless packaging, since another Atomic MR-02 motor mount I bought was also missing screws.

Wow thats just silly if its the same shock tower. You would have to buy it twice.

When are they coming out with a rear center gear? I don't have wear with my front, I have it with the rear.

gctkaz
2012.05.13, 08:34 PM
I don't think the shock tower included with the motor mount is exactly the same as the one in the shock stay set.

In the motor mount shock tower, if you connect the 4 shock tower mounting holes, a perfect rectangle is formed. From what I can tell in pictures, the shock stay mounting holes form a trapezoid. So if you already have the shock stay set, (I think) you just need to replace your rear shock stay with the new one provided. But if you don't have the shock stay set then you need to purchase it. Would have gone a long way to mention this in the installation notes.

I guess the buggy is still young and 1st-generation hop-ups are still getting their wrinkles ironed out, but forgetting to put screws in the package is just sloppy QC IMO.

d1nzfe
2012.05.14, 03:25 AM
Its just plain stupid to buy the shock stays and motor mount and end up with a extra rear shock stay.:mad:

arch2b
2012.05.14, 10:48 AM
To help clarify, does the new motor mount require the use of the included shok stays? If so, it's not uncommon at all for new parts to come out making previous ones obsolete or incompatible. Especially for a new to market product. Being an early adopter has its downsides.

I've had missing screws from every manufacturer. It happens. Twice from the same is a bad pattern though.

I believe all manuf. could do a better job at providing user friendly instructions with parts. For a long time, we simply did not get them at all so it's much better now than not long ago.

gctkaz
2012.05.14, 11:17 AM
As far as I can tell, you need to use the included shock stay with the motor mount. The hole spacing on the stock plastic shock stay is too wide for the Atomic motor mount. Even if you could use the plastic shock stay, you will need the ball links from the shock stay set anyway.

I have accepted this is part of being an early adopter too. Anyway, now the rest of you know what you need to get this installed!

edit: I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote this - if you could use the plastic shock stay, obviously you would have the tapping ball links already. You need the ball links and body post from the carbon shock stay set to use the motor mount.

arch2b
2012.05.14, 11:45 AM
i can't tell you how many times i've received parts and found myself either missing tool(s) required to install or missing fasteners/shims necessary for installlation:rolleyes:

there are some fundamental criteria that should be provided with any parts, from anyone:
1. list of tools required if not provided
2. list of fasteners/bits required if not provided
3. basic instructions on assembly

very helpful to get:
4. list of other parts required for installation, meaning if you need a specific motor mount to install a damper, etc.
5. known compatibility issues, meaning if you have to modify existing parts for adequate clearances, etc.

nothing more frustrating than getting some cool new parts only to find you don't have the tool to install it or other bits. i've had it happen many times.

arch2b
2012.05.18, 07:52 AM
would the shock spring set fit the aluminum shocks that we've seen pictures of?

Atomic-USA
2012.05.18, 04:03 PM
KMB005-MH

Mini-Z Buggy Adjustable Heat Sink Motor Mount

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/atomic/KMB005-MH_l.jpg

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/addition_atomic/KMB005-MH_inst.jpg

- Enhanced motor cooling from aluminum heat sink mount.
- MA-010 motor pinion compatible, wider range of gear ratio selections.
- Requires motors with two mounting holes for secure motor fitment.
- This is the upgrade kit for KMB005.
- Fit Mini-Z Buggy MB-010.

oXYnary
2012.05.18, 09:46 PM
would the shock spring set fit the aluminum shocks that we've seen pictures of?

Pictures or it didn't happen! (droolz)

arch2b
2012.05.18, 10:23 PM
kyoshosan (http://kyoshosan.blogspot.com/2012/05/mini-z-buggy-aluminum-oil-shocks.html).... ;)

oXYnary
2012.05.19, 06:04 PM
kyoshosan (http://kyoshosan.blogspot.com/2012/05/mini-z-buggy-aluminum-oil-shocks.html).... ;)

Mmm.. Looks like they made the shaft bigger which is great since the stock one bends so easily. However, no big bore shocks with the larger shaft = less fluid...

(Sorry OT Atomic)

On topic, Atomic, please release a bronze rear idler gear.

Atomic-USA
2012.06.08, 10:46 AM
This is a must have for all MB-010 owners:

Mini-Z Buggy Chassis Protection Skid plate Cover (Part No. KMB009)

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32970&stc=1&d=1339170349

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32971&stc=1&d=1339170349

Highlights:

- Effectively reinforce front part of chassis
- Prevents chassis breakage and increase chassis strength
- S.S. reinforced lightweight design
- Direct fit with no custom modification involved
- Perfectly shaped lower cover which retains and stabilizes factory caster angle setting
- Securely holds steering ti-rods in place

hrdrvr
2012.06.08, 01:50 PM
When will this be up on the EGR site?

oXYnary
2012.06.08, 04:39 PM
This is a must have for all MB-010 owners:

Mini-Z Buggy Chassis Protection Skid plate Cover (Part No. KMB009)

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32970&stc=1&d=1339170349

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32971&stc=1&d=1339170349

Highlights:

- Effectively reinforce front part of chassis
- Prevents chassis breakage and increase chassis strength
- S.S. reinforced lightweight design
- Direct fit with no custom modification involved
- Perfectly shaped lower cover which retains and stabilizes factory caster angle setting
- Securely holds steering ti-rods in place

Your going to sell lots of those!

gctkaz
2012.06.30, 02:29 AM
I just saw the teaser on EGR Mart's website, and oh God I NEED it!!!!

So I'm guessing this replaces the stock thingie that holds the tie rod in place?

Atomic-USA
2012.06.30, 08:08 AM
You are correct

gctkaz
2012.07.05, 12:53 PM
I see the skid plate is now available at EGR Mart. I might not actually buy one yet since at the moment I have my chassis screwed together with an aluminum plate and there isn't much else I need to buy. I'll get it next time I have a number of items to get.

Atomic-USA
2012.08.02, 09:06 PM
New High Downforce Lexan Body with decals:

Part no: KMB012-BG

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/addition_atomic/KMB012-BG_inst.jpg

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/medium/atomic/KMB012-BG_m.jpg

Atomic-USA
2012.10.08, 05:10 PM
KMB-010

Anti-roll bar kits

http://www.egrracing.com/shop/images/medium/atomic/KMB010_m.jpg

Anti Roll Bar Set For Kyosho Mini-Z Buggy
*requires KMB005 prior to installation