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zround
2012.01.30, 03:15 PM
I have ready the 1.12 release with the following features:

ZRound Manager

• Compact database option in menu "File"
• Championship groups scoring view issue solved
• Average points added to the championship score
• Heat classification can be computed by points
• Different point awarding schemas can be defined for heats, mains and championships
• New option to replace a driver on a race. All results will be assigned to the new driver chosen
• Diploma designer & print out
• Multiple selection allowed in inscription form
• Mean of points in championship can be used as ranking to sort heats
• Point schemas in ascendent sort allowed (best position lower points than worst positions)

ZRound

• All practice sessions are saved into database. They can be viewed from the racer's form
• AMBrc compatibility improvements
• Android support for real time monitor application
• Transponder checking during practice and before the running
• U-Sec RcTimer lapcounter supported
• Transponder/Description shown on practice results

ZRound 1.12 installer can be downloaded here: http://www.zround.com/request.php?43
ZRound for AndroidTM can be downloaded here: http://www.zround.com/request.php?44
(Android 2.2 or higher required)

NoBrainer
2012.01.31, 06:35 AM
w00t!

"need" to get my hands on it NOW....

:D


EDIT1:
ZRound Settings -> Speaker -> Events (2)
Missing check box for "Interval gap reading"

I have installed 1.12 build 1 over 1.11 build 4.

EDIT2:
I'm traveling with my Robitronic and I also have different configurations of different tracks.
Is it possible to make presets with track names?
So that the best lap for that track layout is shown when you choose track layout?
Then I could keep track of my track "records" on different tracks.

LED
2012.01.31, 01:03 PM
Thx Jesus, I will be testing today at our club.

@nobrainer.
I dont think that is done already, asked for the same thing a while ago :)
Give me a PM with your email adress and I'll send you an excell sheet I made wich does what you want. It stores each track and trackrecord you ever done. And you can then put it back into zround before you race that track again.
Only downside, you have to do it manually.
I'll explain it better in the email.

zround
2012.01.31, 02:44 PM
LED is right, it is not implemented the "best lap by track" feature yet :(

There is not a check for "interval gap reading" configuration. You must use the text box to define how you want differences (interval/gap) to be read when needed.

Regards,

Jesús.

dbsteve
2012.01.31, 03:47 PM
Jesus, any chance you make something for iPhone 2 ?

zround
2012.01.31, 06:27 PM
Jesus, any chance you make something for iPhone 2 ?

It is just a budget matter. I own an iPhone but not a Mac to develop with :o.

However I don't dismiss the possibility in the near future ...

Regards.

LED
2012.02.01, 12:39 PM
Bad news !!

My phone has android 2.2.2
So I cant test it :mad:

NoBrainer
2012.02.07, 04:04 PM
Suggestion:
Make an "update" feature inside your ZRound, so that you can check automatically for updates when you start ZRound.
Then have it to ether just download or download and install.

Ether way....
With a new build, you should not have to repeat all the steps again. Just preserve the setup steps done previously and the same setting should be used.

The 1.12 build 2 still has the readme for 1.10 and the date from 2010. Might be updated for the next release?.


Going to check it out on monday. The it's race day.
Thanks for your hard work and all the time you spend on this.

NoBrainer
2012.02.07, 04:12 PM
Just wondering, is it possible to use more than 1 lap counter, so that you can have several timings around your track?
1 total time, and lets say 1/3 and 2/3 of the track??
So you can tell in which part of the track you can improve your driving.....

zround
2012.02.07, 05:11 PM
Bad news !!

My phone has android 2.2.2
So I cant test it :mad:

I think i could so something for you ... It may be possible it will work without the discovery protocol implemented to autoconfigure the device (it is the 2.3 limitation cause).

I'll keep you informed.´

Jesús.

zround
2012.02.07, 05:31 PM
Suggestion:
Make an "update" feature inside your ZRound, so that you can check automatically for updates when you start ZRound.
Then have it to ether just download or download and install.

Ether way....
With a new build, you should not have to repeat all the steps again. Just preserve the setup steps done previously and the same setting should be used.

The 1.12 build 2 still has the readme for 1.10 and the date from 2010. Might be updated for the next release?.


Going to check it out on monday. The it's race day.
Thanks for your hard work and all the time you spend on this.
The automatic update is in my long long to-do list ...
I have not thought to change the current setup process :(

Just wondering, is it possible to use more than 1 lap counter, so that you can have several timings around your track?
1 total time, and lets say 1/3 and 2/3 of the track??
So you can tell in which part of the track you can improve your driving.....
I have received three request about this along 6 years. I really think it is not an useful but a cool feature, at least in miniz tracks where lap times are near 10-12sec (on medium/large layouts).

I tested it out four years ago and it was a failure so i decided to not implement it because it isn't worth the effort.

Regarding larger layouts (1/8, 1/10 scales), AMBrc expensive decoders are used and the clubs doesn't use to have more than one.


Regards,

Jesús.

NoBrainer
2012.02.08, 03:29 AM
Thanks for reply Jesus.

NoBrainer
2012.02.08, 06:06 AM
again, wondering how I can transfer the drivers database from one installation to another.
Just the driver database, so I don't have to make duplicates.
Also to make backup.


And... what files do I need to backup to keep all the track records.

Is it possible to have these files on, lets say, a dropbox folder, so that I can use several computers, but only one drivers database and just one place to have all the track records?

LED
2012.02.08, 05:03 PM
Just wondering, is it possible to use more than 1 lap counter, so that you can have several timings around your track?
1 total time, and lets say 1/3 and 2/3 of the track??
So you can tell in which part of the track you can improve your driving.....

I love this idea tbh, Jesus make it so :p (2 counters would already be enough for me :p)

Thx for the android thing, I'll be waiting for your answer.

@ Nobrainer.
I usually make a copie of the old installation, and the install the new one over the old one. If everything works ok, wich it always does, then I delete the old one. But for your question, the drivers and all the other stuff is stored in the file zround.mdb (access database) in the datos folder. In the past i simply copied this file to restore drivers and championships. But if something would change in this file during a new realse that would probably **** up the installation so make sure to take a backup before trying.

NoBrainer
2012.02.09, 04:56 AM
It would be cool with more than 1 counter.
But you do what you want Jesus. Your DA MAN!


But it's not mainly for backup but for different computers and different tracks.
I travel some just to get the possibility to drive. So this would make it easier to get the same drivers transponders without having to manually edit drivers.

Just because I'm lazy....


But Jesus. Could you provide a list of changes suggested and what your plans are?
I would really like the Track designer to work on both 50 and 30cm tracks and that you could link the race to each track design. It would be cool to have the track design up in the right corner besides your track times.

zround
2012.02.09, 12:39 PM
It would be cool with more than 1 counter.
But you do what you want Jesus. Your DA MAN!


But it's not mainly for backup but for different computers and different tracks.
I travel some just to get the possibility to drive. So this would make it easier to get the same drivers transponders without having to manually edit drivers.

Just because I'm lazy....


But Jesus. Could you provide a list of changes suggested and what your plans are?
I would really like the Track designer to work on both 50 and 30cm tracks and that you could link the race to each track design. It would be cool to have the track design up in the right corner besides your track times.

By the meantime, I've not plans to include the multi lapcounter feature (to measure sector times).

The "Datos" folder is the answer. If you copy all the content of the "Datos" folder you will replicate your installation on any computer. It includes the race data files, html files, etc. but if you only want to share drivers database and results of championship and races then copying zround.mdb (located into "Datos" folder) is enough.

I published a site for feature requests and bug reporting and it was a failure. I was the only people feeding/using the system so I decided to uninstall it as an excell sheet is enough just for me. Now I have some key users helping a lot with tests and feature requests and I've thought to deploy a project management site to facilitate our collaborative work. Unfortunatelly it consumes a time I don't have now.

Track Designer was a "weekend" project acomplished when I had to design a track for my club and I didn't find a good tool to do it. Later I included the "trackplay" feature in ZRound allowing you to see the track layout and the cars moving around (in mean time). I have not plans to include 30cm tiles.

When the "lap times by track layout" feature be implemented I will see where to draw the layout. Top right corner is a good candidate for the console.

Regards,

Jesús.

NoBrainer
2012.02.13, 04:00 AM
Thanks for reply Jesus


Now I did not have time to test Build 2 before you gave out build 3.
So tonight I will test Build 3.

Love your work Jesus!

NoBrainer
2012.02.13, 07:08 PM
1.12 Build 3 worked perfect.
I still can't handle the championship, but will work more on it.
Drivers database works great.

After you showed me the "shortcuts" it's even better.

NoBrainer
2012.02.19, 07:07 PM
Tried 1.12 build 4 today, no errors and something new, but at startup it still says build 3.

zround
2012.02.20, 02:51 PM
Minor chages requested in order to manage electric 1/8 Touring and TT races. I have not renumered the version of all binaries but only the affected modules.

NoBrainer
2012.03.05, 02:41 PM
Can you make a championship by your self?
Not use one of the presets, but make your own setup and store that setup for later, just add racers?

I haven't checked it out, just asking before I'm trying to do it myself.

I'm so new to this so I really donćt know all the possibilities yet.

zround
2012.03.05, 03:14 PM
Yes, you can.

NoBrainer
2012.03.16, 07:25 AM
I miss the computer clock somewhere on the second display where the results is.
Don't have to be a big clock, but it would be nice with the real time somewhere on my big screen.

NoBrainer
2012.03.26, 07:08 PM
Tested some more today.

We missed the option to resize the windows under "Training Sessions", so that we could watch more lap times at once.
It also seemed like ZRound stopped counting the lap times when we opened "Training Sessions".
We used 2 monitors.

ffreitas
2012.03.26, 07:37 PM
Just wondering, is it possible to use more than 1 lap counter, so that you can have several timings around your track?
1 total time, and lets say 1/3 and 2/3 of the track??
So you can tell in which part of the track you can improve your driving.....

We have done that without the need for more than 1 lap counting system, or at least not a full additional system. What we did (using I-Lap Timing System) was to position three sets of 2 sensors each in different segments of the track and then used zround as usual. I-Lap sensors are connected one after the other, so we only needed longer cables.

The only caveat was that each "lap" counted was in fact one segment, that is, in order to figure out the total number of actual laps you have to divide the number of "laps" counted by zround by 3.

Sounds complicated, but it is actually very simple. It only takes a few more sensors. It may not be feasible using other lap counting systems though.

NoBrainer
2012.03.27, 03:20 AM
Thats a possibility, but not an option.
I don't want to "think" when I drive or after.

But it's a great idea for others.

NoBrainer
2012.04.09, 05:49 AM
Why don't race results get saved in the same place as practice results?