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pinwc4
2012.02.20, 06:16 PM
I am releasing a test build that I would like some people to try and report back to me any issues. I have changed enough internally that I want more testing done before I release it to the general public.

Starting with this release I am changing my version numbers to be the year followed by the release number. This makes more sense with the incremental builds that I continue to release.

You can download version 12.03 from here:

Windows Zip File (http://www.flipsideracing.org/downloads/fsraceWin-1059.zip)
Windows Installer (http://www.flipsideracing.org/downloads/FlipSideRacing-windows-installer-1059.exe)
Mac Zip File (http://www.flipsideracing.org/downloads/fsraceOSX-1059.zip)

Some of the key changes are the following:

You can edit racers during a practice race or Free Play. Be very careful with this. For example if you enable a different racer with a duplicate transponder that new racer will get the laps while the existing racer will no longer get laps.
No longer need to set max racers, it is always 24.
The race screen does not show empty racers anymore, it will only display racers in the race
You can define individual racer colors instead of slot colors. Enable this on the General Config. screen and then define the racer colors in Edit Racers.
Multiple copies of the software can be ran at once, make sure to install the copies to different directories to prevent conflicts
The window can be resized smaller, 400x300 is the smallest size though this cuts off controls
Row height will be changed automatically if all racers do not fit on the screen. The row height setting now just controls the default
The email function filters out non-printable characters as those can create problems with the emails sent
Windows graphics now use the newer GDI+ graphics library, this might cause problems with Windows 2000 and older systems
Added none to the make menu on the edit racers screen to fix the behaviour if you click a racer with a make and then click one without, it will now default back to none instead of the previous racers make
Errors in manually edited xml files no longer send me a crash report they just give the user a warning
When a racer is first added to a race they are put in last place instead of first place for their initial lap
Lowered audio priority


Please test this release and let me know if you do or do not run into problems. I would like some people to verify functionality or identify issues so I can do any needed fixes/updates before this is released to the public.

Also if you do not like the implementation of some of these changes such as emptying the race screen, row space, racer colors etc. please give me input on a better approach.

As always your help is appreciated

Racer-HH
2012.02.21, 05:45 AM
I think the new features are positive and will improve overall usability and handling. Personally I see no downside to the changes.
I will download the test version and test it in an event tomorrow evening. Hopefully everything works fine as usual.

RFick73
2012.02.21, 09:50 AM
I'll also be trying it out tomorrow at a very small GTG seeing I was having half those issues.

Oh, and sorry about all those e-mails as I was configuring the race.xml file!
If I had known it was going to e-mail you, I would have disconnected from the internet! =/

Thank you for all the time you put into this program, I know it's just a hobby for you.

But we all appreciate it! :D

pinwc4
2012.02.21, 10:13 PM
I think the new features are positive and will improve overall usability and handling. Personally I see no downside to the changes.

Yeah, the usability changes are what always concerns me. I like to get feedback in case maybe the way I am thinking things should work does not line up with everyone else.

But most of the usability changes in this case were getting rid of some leftover behaviors on how the program used to operate when you had to manually add each racer to a race.

Oh, and sorry about all those e-mails as I was configuring the race.xml file!
If I had known it was going to e-mail you, I would have disconnected from the internet! =/


No need to be sorry. I wanted the software to submit any exceptions that occur and it was not emailing me crash reports. Instead I made a quick little web app with a database that the software submits the reports to. So I periodically check the latest errors recorded in the database and knew to just filter out anything that said XML parser related errors.

Racer-HH
2012.02.22, 04:36 AM
Downloaded and installed the beta over the current 0.76 without problems. First impressions are positive - all changes are available as described. No errors occured with first test laps.
Today we will have a race event with 5 drivers, so tomorrow I can give you more feedback.

Racer-HH
2012.02.23, 03:24 AM
Sorry to report this, but we had several issues yesterday I'd like to address.

EDIT RACERS
1) I had to change an email-address; in the respective field the change was saved and shown. The report nevertheless was send to the old address.
2) One racer had his name also in the SPEAK field. I tried to remove it, but after deleting and saving it still showed up. (this is no real issue, just an uncommon behavior)

RACE SREEN
1) When starting a session, sometimes the starting horn sound was not played, the countdown itself (3, 2, 1) worked fine though. In a rough estimation only 5 out 8 times the horn sounded. I also like to add, that if I select a countdown from for example 5, the first number annouced via voice is always one less, in this example 4. This was also in the previous versions.
2) There seems to be a delay after the first crossing of the counter and showing the racer on the screen compared to 0.76 where it was nearly the same time. The delay is sometimes only 1-2 secs, but sometimes up to 7-8 secs.
3) When the racers appears the first time only the picture and the time was shown. No rank, no name. After 5-10 laps (7-8 secs average) rank and name where suddenly there. Lap count was correct and name was announced for best laps correctly, even when not showing.

If you need further details please let me know. Hope you can allocate the bugs and fix them. (Systems: Win XP SP3, Kyosho IC Tag)

RFick73
2012.02.23, 11:32 AM
I am also seeing issues as well with the Racers names.

It seems most of the times I started a new race, it took two laps to show the users name & picture.
After it saw the transponder through the loop it would place up only timing info, then a lap later it would usually add the name.
Not a biggie, but sometimes it took longer than that or it didn't happen at all.

See screen captures I uploaded here:
http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/showphoto.php?photo=15569&size=big&cat=
& here:
http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/showphoto.php?photo=15570&size=big&cat=

As a side note, it was originally REALLY bad, but we noticed we somehow were running two copies of the software.
IF it's possible, maybe adding a toggle option in the settings window to allow, or disallow multiple windows to be opened and having it unchecked as default.

We also experienced a few missed laps but it only seemed to be for one racer, so we will have to look into that.
We only had three of us and we only really ran it for like 20-30 mins as we were doing a lot of wrenching. ;)

Hopefully I'll have more track time soon again, if not, we have a GTG with about 12+ guys scheduled for the 4th of next month so your sure to hear from me then.

BTW, my E-Mail issues seem to be fixed now as it sent out the Race Stats perfectly after each Timed Practice.

That's all from me for now.

RFick73
2012.02.23, 12:53 PM
BTW Racer-HH,

The Countdown actually starting one lower than what you set it for, that is something I worked around a while back, but it is still an issue...

I have it start at 6, and well, it starts speaking at 5. Issue bandaided. =/

Racer-HH
2012.02.23, 02:29 PM
Actually this is the work around I use too. I just wanzed to address this issue together with my new findings.

pinwc4
2012.02.24, 12:59 PM
Thanks for checking this and giving feedback. I had expected the graphic changes to impact Windows 2000 some but not XP. I have updated the code and think I have it taken care of now. Plus I added the code back to prevent multiple copies from running and fixed a couple other things.

You can download version 12.03 from here:

Windows Zip File (http://www.flipsideracing.org/downloads/fsraceWin-1059.zip)
Windows Installer (http://www.flipsideracing.org/downloads/FlipSideRacing-windows-installer-1059.exe)

Racer-HH
2012.02.25, 02:59 PM
Thanks for the update. You fixed every single bug I reported with 12.02. The current beta is now a big improvement to 0.76. Well done!

cmenard
2012.02.27, 10:39 PM
The new version is really nice. The only problem I have to report is the starting horn never sounds. The countdown just ends at one. Also noticed that laps used to beep and announce times. That doesn't seem to be the case now.

pinwc4
2012.02.28, 03:25 PM
The new version is really nice. The only problem I have to report is the starting horn never sounds. The countdown just ends at one. Also noticed that laps used to beep and announce times. That doesn't seem to be the case now.

If you are using Windows you will want to check your sound mixer. I have had a couple of people encounter this and in each cause the Wave audio device volume was turned down even though the main volume was turned up. In Windows the Horn and Beeps are handled by a differently audio device than the speech.

To check this on Windows XP you need to double click the speaker icon on your start bar. In Windows 7 you need to single click it then click the word mixer. When the mixer comes up make sure the volume for the Wave device is turned up. It might be named something different on Windows 7.

If that does or does not take care of the problem please let me know.

cmenard
2012.02.28, 05:45 PM
It is running on Win7. Version 0.76 works fine but not the last beta. No starting horn or finish horn. The volume levels are all correct. Any other things to try? Thanks for the response.

pinwc4
2012.02.28, 07:16 PM
It is running on Win7. Version 0.76 works fine but not the last beta. No starting horn or finish horn. The volume levels are all correct. Any other things to try? Thanks for the response.

One more thing that you can test. From within the program go to the General Config. screen. On this screen click Manage Themes. It is a button on the right side of the screen about in the middle. This will open up a new window. On this window select the theme you are using to load it in the theme editor. Then click on the sounds tab. On this tab you can try to play the sounds individually.

Try that and let me know if you can hear sounds or not then.

If not then my next question is did you use the installer or the zip file? You might try running the application from a different directory such as off your desktop. For the sound effects the program has to create temporary files, maybe this is failing. Windows 7 got a lot stricter about directory permissions, I have the installer change permissions to help with this.

cmenard
2012.02.28, 07:52 PM
No sounds from the theme manager either. I made sure that everyone had full control to that directory. Also have shortcut to run as admin. The one difference between the versions is the new one gives me a security pop up when I launch it. Says it needs to make changes to my computer. 0.76 doesn't do that. I did use the installer instead of extracting the zip file. Thanks for the help.

pinwc4
2012.02.28, 10:23 PM
No sounds from the theme manager either. I made sure that everyone had full control to that directory. Also have shortcut to run as admin. The one difference between the versions is the new one gives me a security pop up when I launch it. Says it needs to make changes to my computer. 0.76 doesn't do that. I did use the installer instead of extracting the zip file. Thanks for the help.

Thanks for the additional information. I have a new build for you to try. It should report as being version 12.03. I still suspect maybe something is not right with the audio mixing levels since security does not appear to be the problem (I checked the code and the temp files get written to the OS temp directory, not the install directory). All I did with 12.03 is force the volume to 100% for the sound effects. This does not override the system volume level, they will just be as loud as the system volume.

You can download version 12.03 from here:

Windows Zip File (http://www.flipsideracing.org/downloads/fsraceWin-1059.zip)
Windows Installer (http://www.flipsideracing.org/downloads/FlipSideRacing-windows-installer-1059.exe)

Let me know if that does or does not work.

cmenard
2012.02.28, 11:33 PM
Thanks!! That did the trick. All the sounds work like a champ.

pinwc4
2012.02.29, 11:56 AM
Thanks!! That did the trick. All the sounds work like a champ.

Thanks for following up with me. Glad to hear that it works now.

Are there any problems remaining that must be corrected before I release this version to the public?

If anyone else has tested this I would like to hear back from you.
Thanks

RFick73
2012.02.29, 07:19 PM
I got a 3 guy GTG tonight.
I'll letcha know by tonight/tomorrow if we encounter anything. I'll be sure we install that newer version you JUST put up last night.

cmenard
2012.03.01, 10:08 AM
Everything is working great! Thanks again for the Win7 help.

Racer-HH
2012.03.01, 01:19 PM
Just tested 12.03, especially for possible sound issues. Just did ten test laps but everything was fine and I encountered no new or old problems.

briankstan
2012.03.01, 02:59 PM
we are racing tonight. I'll install it and give it some running.

RFick73
2012.03.01, 03:21 PM
All seems to be well with the timing portion of the program.

We did see a minor video glitch, but it was when we were running a timed practice, minimized the timer, did some things then came back.
The page looked very blocky, some squares were mising here and there.
I didn't get a screen shot.

We stopped the practice then re-started it again and it was fixed.

Other than that, it seems I'm having an issue with E-Mailing reports still.
It's doing relativly the same thing.

I'm now using gmail as the outbound server.
It seems it will only send to other GMail accounts.
Same thing that happened when I had my own server in it.
I'll test this more on Sunday as we have a 10-15 person GTG happening on the weekend.
My racer was set to a hotmail address & I never recevied them.
Another racers was a gmail account and it did get the auto generated reports at the end of the run.

Racer-HH
2012.03.02, 03:35 AM
We had that with one of our racers too. In our case, the email was found in the SPAM folder. Maybe this helps you as well?

RFick73
2012.03.02, 09:53 AM
That isn't my case unfortunately, or so it seems.

My Hotmail addy forwards to my GMail.
I even logged into both of my Hotmail & GMail accounts via a web browser but it was not in the Spam/Junk folders there either.

I'll try setting it to my work addy as I get that on my phone too.
Sunday I will be able to test across multiple e-mail domains. :D

pinwc4
2012.03.02, 10:16 AM
Still not sure what is going on with your email. I have gmail as well and it sends the messages to other email providers. I might try signing up for Hotmail and see if I can duplicate the problem.

As for your screen glitch thanks for bringing that up. I will add a couple full screen refreshes to the program when it detects a window being restored or maximized. In most cases I have been avoiding causing a full refresh as before Windows 7 this would cause a lot of flickering.

So I think with that 1 minor tweak I will release the official new version to the public. Because there is a change it will be version 12.04 that I post on the main site for everyone.