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nicov
2012.02.21, 09:59 AM
Universal Swing Shaft MBW023
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/13/00/17/86/mbw02310.gif (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=55&u=13001786)
and Ball Differential MBW028
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/13/00/17/86/mbw02810.gif (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=56&u=13001786)
are now available on the market.

Anybody could try those yet ? I'm expecting motricity improvement :D

Rune
2012.02.21, 10:19 AM
Tried, and works as expected!

Real nice quality. Perfect fit. as always with Kyosho parts:)

oXYnary
2012.02.21, 06:54 PM
I thought it took the same ball diff as the awd? Is this one slightly different? Are the heavy duty gear diffs out yet?

gctkaz
2012.02.21, 07:51 PM
I'm a bit curious too, I noticed the stock Kyosho gear diffs for AWD and buggy have different product codes, and the buggy diff costs twice as much as the AWD diff.

...and... I recently ordered two Atomic AWD ball diffs hoping to install them in my buggy since I was under the impression they were the same :\ I guess if they don't work, I could put them both in my AWD and retire my single 3racing diff..

180SX SR20
2012.02.22, 06:59 AM
I couldn't afford Kyosho's Ball Diff so I bought this instead. I'm guessing its made of harder plastic.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/PhaseDC5/DSCF0728.jpg

kryten
2012.02.22, 07:55 AM
I'm a bit curious too, I noticed the stock Kyosho gear diffs for AWD and buggy have different product codes, and the buggy diff costs twice as much as the AWD diff.

...and... I recently ordered two Atomic AWD ball diffs hoping to install them in my buggy since I was under the impression they were the same :\ I guess if they don't work, I could put them both in my AWD and retire my single 3racing diff..

They are the same,i currently have kyosho ball diffs in my lazer from my MA010.

TheSteve
2012.02.22, 06:33 PM
I'd really like a pair of the new ball diffs to try in my AWD car. Does anyone know of a good online store that has them in stock?

gctkaz
2012.02.22, 08:25 PM
Hi Steve, I just got my Atomic ball diffs today from HKS Hobby, but they are really disorganized and I'm not dealing with them again. They still owe me a 2WD ball diff but I'm not even going to bother chasing them about it anymore.

EGR Mart has the Atomic AWD ball diffs for $17 each, same as what I paid. Could have gotten Ryan to order them for you...

I'm using a 3Racing ball diff in the rear gearbox of my AWD, seems to be fine also and relatively cheap if you can find them in stock anywhere.

It was probably my mistake but within seconds of installing the Atomic diffs into my buggy, I stripped a front dogbone :( So now I'm running 2WD until I can get a set of those new Atomic swingshafts. Rear diff seems to be working well.

TheSteve
2012.02.22, 08:33 PM
I've looked at the Atomic stuff and kind of want to stick with actual Kyosho. I plan to drive the car hard so I want the best stuff.

Atomic-USA
2012.02.23, 09:41 AM
The stock MB-010 dogbones strip easily no matter what diffs you use. Atomic has both upgraded dogbones and Universals.

oXYnary
2012.02.23, 04:49 PM
They are the same,i currently have kyosho ball diffs in my lazer from my MA010.

Do they have those dirt guards that go in the outdrives as shown in the picture?


180SX SR20: Have you fit it yet? I'm wondering if it seals slightly better than the stock. As I could fill with diff oil and not worry about ball diffs.

oXYnary
2012.02.26, 05:44 AM
X-Power has some hop ups out like hardened aluminum universals, titanium screw kits, and a whole slew of foam tire compounds (front and rear)

http://x-powerrc(dot)com/product_cate_list.php?nid=69

oXYnary
2012.03.27, 07:49 PM
The MBW028 Composite Ball Diff.

Does anyone know if the balls inside are Carbide or just plain steel? I assume plain steel since not the higher end ball diff.

Edit: They are 2mm (1.98mm on the calipers). Acer makes T001

nicov
2012.03.28, 09:09 AM
Question : does Carbide bring benefit over steel balls, and what benefit (smoother diff ?)

TheSteve
2012.03.28, 01:09 PM
Question : does Carbide bring benefit over steel balls, and what benefit (smoother diff ?)

They tend to stay round longer, which does give a smoother diff.


I have had only one race day with the buggy ball diffs installed in my ma-015 awd car, so far they feel pretty good. I modified one slightly and installed the Atomic thrust bearing, I will do the same on the second when the second thrust bearing shows up.

oXYnary
2012.03.28, 03:14 PM
What thrust bearing are you referring to? I cant find any pictures showing how the atomic diff is built differently than the Kyosho (i.e if it actually has thrust washer/balls).

TheSteve
2012.03.28, 04:05 PM
What thrust bearing are you referring to? I cant find any pictures showing how the atomic diff is built differently than the Kyosho (i.e if it actually has thrust washer/balls).

The Kyosho plastic diff uses a regular bearing to handle thrust duties, the same as the original Atomic awd ball diff - part # AWD080.
Atomic offers a thrust bearing upgrade for the diff, part # AWD109.
The Kyosho and Atomic diffs are similar enough you can fit the Atomic thrust bearing in if you file off a little aluminum on the nut that holds the diff together.

oXYnary
2012.03.28, 04:21 PM
Thanks Steve.

That ball bearing did seem pretty silly to include since the pressure is from the side versus the X axis. Premature bearing wear anyone?

Just a rehash but anyone know though if those main balls that come with the diff are carbide or steel? I'm guessing steel, but don't want to spend the $ to later find out they were in fact carbide. You would think for the price they would be carbide, but Kyosho is proud of even their cheaper materials.

TheSteve
2012.03.28, 05:11 PM
I am sure they are just steel, the rebuild kits that include the balls and pressure plates are 3 dollars.

oXYnary
2012.04.09, 11:43 PM
Does anyone know what the bearing size that goes in the middle of the ball diff (on the gear itself)?

3.5X6X1.5mm
or
3.45 cant tell