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Fovea3d
2012.03.02, 09:27 AM
'70 Cuda body for Mini-z MR02-03W
Wheelbase 98mm
Offset 0F/+1R
Weight 17.8gr

Link (http://www.shapeways.com/model/477970/mini_z_cuda.html?gid=sg31511)

This body has been widdened by 108% to fit a wide chassis, and so the proportions are not completely true to scale.
The overall dimensions are similar to the Kyosho Mustang.
Weight comparison: K Mustang 40.9gr (with paint and glosscoat) '70 Cuda: 17.8gr without paint.
The front grill is open to allow air flow.

Feel free to post your own realisations here. This thread is also open to requests for improvement of this body.

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/00.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/01.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/04.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/02.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/06.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/07.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/09.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/10.jpg

marc
2012.03.02, 11:50 AM
Nice, can a convertable version be done for a Nash Bridges car?

arch2b
2012.03.02, 02:33 PM
looks great! how does it handle? what offsets are recommended?

Fovea3d
2012.03.02, 05:42 PM
looks great! how does it handle? what offsets are recommended?

It is difficult to describe. Because of the reduced weight the chassis feels planted, and contrary to what the body shape suggests the long overhang does not have any influence and the car is not "top heavy" at all. It feels like driving with a lexan body that has an unusual shape.
I mounted 0/+1R and it is perfect.

@Marc I don't know it will be a good idea with the large exposed interior section and no way to make a clear windscreen.

mleemor60
2012.03.02, 06:43 PM
Very, very nicely done. Step one to the T/A nearly complete. All we need now is the Camaro, Mustang and the Javelin.

marc
2012.03.02, 06:45 PM
@Marc I don't know it will be a good idea with the large exposed interior section and no way to make a clear windscreen.[/QUOTE]

Instead of exposed interior, you could do just a flat section with "humps" simulating the seats. Windscreen could just be painted black like on regular bodies.
Being convertable doesnt necessarely mean you have to have a completely opened center section. Kind of like make a half dumby interior if you will.

Just something that resembles Nash's car.

Fovea3d
2012.03.02, 06:50 PM
It is now just like it should be, green :D

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/green.jpg

@ mleemor60: the Camaro is already done

@Marc: this is just not a priority, many others are on the list.

marc
2012.03.02, 07:02 PM
No problem, just loved that show! Awesome looking bodies there mate! Can we get a picture of that Cuda next to the Camero? Bet they look sweet together!

Fovea3d
2012.03.02, 07:07 PM
No problem, just loved that show! Awesome looking bodies there mate! Can we get a picture of that Cuda next to the Camero? Bet they look sweet together!

Good idea. Will do that whe the details on the Cuda are done.

Fovea3d
2012.03.04, 12:17 PM
I started detailing it. I don't know if I will go the complete Hemi decoration (quarter panels and scoop in black) and I don't know if I will chrome the bumpers.

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/13.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/14.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/15.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/16.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/17.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/18.jpg

mleemor60
2012.03.04, 01:34 PM
Not as a racer but as a streeter it needs the billboard's

Skv012a
2012.03.04, 08:47 PM
So, how much can I get one of these for man?

Edit: nm, just noticed the whole new section and the shop link :D

arch2b
2012.03.04, 08:55 PM
Go to his shape ways page where you purchase them from. There is a link in his signature.

Slubben
2012.03.05, 09:41 AM
Can the windshield area be removed and how does it impact the rigidity of the body??

EMU
2012.03.05, 10:59 AM
To use an Ilap transponder on my Exige, I drilled a 3mm hole on the bottom of the windshield. Hardly noticeable... I too would prefer a front clear window, but this will work.

JuniorWKR
2012.03.05, 11:51 AM
cant you guys just cut the portion of the windows out and use the lexan from the autoscale cases as windows..

Fovea3d
2012.03.05, 12:01 PM
Can the windshield area be removed and how does it impact the rigidity of the body??
I would not recommend cutting the body as it is very thin. The pillars would become very flimsy. Just imagine cutting a large hole the size of a window on a lexan body, it is comparable.

Fovea3d
2012.03.06, 12:13 PM
More pics of the Cuda, now with clear coat.

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/cud01.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/cud02.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/cud03.jpg

marc
2012.03.06, 04:43 PM
More pics of the Cuda, now with clear coat.

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/cud01.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/cud02.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/120214cuda/cud03.jpg

I like that last picture, the two go great together! :p

Skv012a
2012.03.06, 06:53 PM
Well, what about making the pillars stronger along with the side clip brace? Would give everyone options to fine-tune these to their liking.

arch2b
2012.07.12, 08:48 AM
I am a proud owner of one of these bodies! I just received it last week.

First impressions; detail is great! Lines are not as solid/crisp as an autoscale due to material and production methods but to the same level of detail you would expect to see on an autoscale. It weights next to nothing! The material is sturdy yet very flexible, similar to lexan. It may get knock off the body posts but won't know until i get it on the track with other cars.

I uploaded images to my Gallery (http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/showgallery.php?cat=1424). there is one small printing error in the front bonnet, passenger side. You can see (http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/showphoto.php?photo=15707) there is a small separation of the material creating a gap that would look like a misaligned hood seam.

As soon as i get the time, i will be painting it. I have a couple other projects ahead of it though. I'm sure i'll end up racing it just like it is for awhile though.

Fovea3d
2013.02.24, 02:31 PM
Here is the Cuda by RKP, a german modeler

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/130224cudarkp/cudarkp01.jpg

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/130224cudarkp/cudarkp02.jpg

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/130224cudarkp/cudarkp03.jpg

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/shapeways/130224cudarkp/cudarkp04.jpg

RKP's website with more pictures and build details (http://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rkpmodellbau.com%2Ffotos%2F1-28-1-24-modelle%2F71-plymouth-barracuda%2F&act=url) (google translated).

arch2b
2016.10.23, 07:06 PM
OK, I got the opportunity to put mine through it's paces yesterday and impressed for a tall, long and narrow body. There are draw backs; narrow front end restricts you to at most +.5mm offset before it rubs on the fenders, the narrow taper of the front fenders tends to lock the body/wheel on the rail vs. bumping off. The rest can be attributed to running on a box stock chassis as it hopped/chattered. just a hint of rolling the fender openings might help with the tire bite.

It really is refreshing to see some proper old school muscle out on the track though. it's just not going to be as competitive as some of the other more stable autoscales (102mm stock oriented). I happened to place in a main with all LM 102mm cars and they outpaced me easily with much more fluid lines and rear damper consistency. While I did qualify into B Main, I just wan't able to catch up to the leaders.
B Main (https://youtu.be/cgL8m-1H298)

Next month I'll try with different tires. This setup has Kyosho 20/30 standard setup. I'll try PN KS soft/firm next time, initial thoughts are it may lead to traction roll.

mleemor60
2016.10.23, 08:42 PM
If you haven't already done so, try switching the chassis to a "N" configuration and then add wheel offset to improve the front stance and add some scrub to help turn in.

Draconious
2016.10.24, 03:28 AM
I have had my Form 2 Machine operational for the last few months. Done a few prints for people via 3D Hubs.

Are these ABS or Resin?

Is this your 3D model? or an edit of one out there already? or... ?

Anyone wiling to buy the resin used to print one of these for comparison of a Form2 Print vs ShapeWays?

I am curious on cost comparison, and if a car body print will hold its shape or warp.

arch2b
2016.10.24, 07:41 AM
If you haven't already done so, try switching the chassis to a "N" configuration and then add wheel offset to improve the front stance and add some scrub to help turn in.

it was already setup with N front end. no way W will work without modification to the model to create a 'wide body' version.

arch2b
2016.10.24, 07:50 AM
alain would be the person to reply on the modeling, they are all his work. doubtful people will share given the time put into modeling and crafting. i'm sure you know it's a lot of work.

the material alain chose for his models is nothing like the plastic filament printing machines. shapeways may have materials that print in a same/similar manner but this is not. it's more of a powder material that is sintered. it holds it's shape very well while remaining somewhat flexible. i inspected the car afterward and no cracks, etc. as you find with lexan.

shapeways has many more materials available than when alain first made these available and wondering is any of the other plastics would offer the same durability with higher resolution?