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NoBrainer
2012.11.19, 06:14 AM
Hi
I'm gonna get me a MF-015 tiki-tiki and I wonder what I absolutely need.

Besides the MF-015, EURUS, batteries, charger and tools. I wonder what else I need.
Have this list so far.

PN Mini-Z F1 Pro LCG Motor Mount - Orange (http://shop.tinyrc.com/product.php?productid=19124&cat=409&page=4)
Kyosho Route 246 R246 Mini-Z Alloy Knuckle Arm Steering Block Set for F1 (0). (http://shop.tinyrc.com/product.php?productid=20747&cat=409&page=4)
Kyosho F1 Bumper (http://www.reflexracing.net/Kyosho-F1-Bumper_p_125.html)
PN Racing Mini-Z F1 RCP Front Tire 15 deg (http://www.reflexracing.net/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-RCP-Front-Tire-15-deg_p_385.html)
PN Racing Mini-Z F1 RCP Front Tire 20 deg (http://www.reflexracing.net/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-RCP-Front-Tire-20-deg_p_386.html)
PN Racing Mini-Z F1 RCP Rear Radial Tire 6 deg (http://www.reflexracing.net/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-RCP-Rear-Radial-Tire-6-deg_p_387.html)

Need at least a ball differantial and some springs I think.
Maybe a DPS?

Gonna drive on RCP all the way.

rajiex
2012.11.19, 06:48 AM
Hi
I'm gonna get me a MF-015 tiki-tiki and I wonder what I absolutely need.

Besides the MF-015, EURUS, batteries, charger and tools. I wonder what else I need.
Have this list so far.

PN Mini-Z F1 Pro LCG Motor Mount - Orange (http://shop.tinyrc.com/product.php?productid=19124&cat=409&page=4)
Kyosho Route 246 R246 Mini-Z Alloy Knuckle Arm Steering Block Set for F1 (0). (http://shop.tinyrc.com/product.php?productid=20747&cat=409&page=4)
Kyosho F1 Bumper (http://www.reflexracing.net/Kyosho-F1-Bumper_p_125.html)
PN Racing Mini-Z F1 RCP Front Tire 15 deg (http://www.reflexracing.net/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-RCP-Front-Tire-15-deg_p_385.html)
PN Racing Mini-Z F1 RCP Front Tire 20 deg (http://www.reflexracing.net/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-RCP-Front-Tire-20-deg_p_386.html)
PN Racing Mini-Z F1 RCP Rear Radial Tire 6 deg (http://www.reflexracing.net/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-RCP-Rear-Radial-Tire-6-deg_p_387.html)

Need at least a ball differantial and some springs I think.
Maybe a DPS?

Gonna drive on RCP all the way.

On my F1, I added the Route 246 mount because it has a dds system.
Upgrade to a ball diff and knuckles.
I find the stock tires work great on my home RCP track and my local club. (i believe they are Kyosho 40 in the front and Kyosho 20 in the rear). See if you can find a Mantisworx bumper. (They last, I broke the stock nose even with other brand front bumpers)

ARN
2012.11.19, 09:36 AM
#1 get a ball diff
#2 SS king pins
#3 knuckles
#4 spare toe bars
#5 spare bumper
#6 rear springs, use soft
#7 rear shock & damper

rajiex
2012.11.19, 10:43 AM
#1 get a ball diff
#2 SS king pins
#3 knuckles
#4 spare toe bars
#5 spare bumper
#6 rear springs, use soft
#7 rear shock & damper

King Pins are very important.. stock ones are so grainy. it actually runs pretty well out of the box

NoBrainer
2012.11.19, 02:08 PM
thanks guys

Forgot the king pins I see.

NoBrainer
2012.11.20, 05:16 AM
w00t

That R246 black motor pod and DPS looked really good!
Think that's the one I "need"...

NoBrainer
2012.11.20, 06:01 AM
This is my list so far. Not sure if I'm going all the way at first....suggestions to changes??


The car:
Kyosho Mini-Z F1 MF-015 Ferrari F10 No.8 Chassis Set (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-MF-015-Ferrari-F10-No8-Chassis-Set_p_44523.html) - Probably

Front:
R246 Mini-Z F1 Alu Steering Blocks 0d (http://www.kenonhobby.com/R246-Mini-Z-F1-Alu-Steering-Blocks-0d_p_44818.html)
R246 Mini-Z F1 Alu Steering Blocks 1d (http://www.kenonhobby.com/R246-Mini-Z-F1-Alu-Steering-Blocks-1d_p_44819.html) -> first
Kyosho Mini-Z MF015 Front Bumper (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-MF015-Front-Bumper_p_44512.html)
Kyosho Mini-Z F1 Stainless Kingpin (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-Stainless-Kingpin_p_41466.html)
Kyosho Mini-Z F1 Front Spring Set (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-Front-Spring-Set_p_41439.html)

Rear:
Kyosho Mini-Z F1 Spring Set (For Rear Shock) (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-Spring-Set-For-Rear-Shock_p_41465.html)
PN Racing Mini-Z F1 V2 Ultra Light Weight Ball Diff Shaft (http://www.kenonhobby.com/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-V2-Ultra-Light-Weight-Ball-Diff-Shaft-_p_42694.html) with PN 64pitch spur and pressure plates] with PN 64pitch spur and pressure plates
R246 Mini-Z F1 Motor Mount & Roll Damper (http://www.kenonhobby.com/R246-Mini-Z-F1-Motor-Mount-Roll-Damper_p_44433.html)

Tires:
Kyosho Mini-Z F1 Tire Label (Michelin) (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-Tire-Label-Michelin_p_41471.html)
Kyosho Mini-Z F1 High Grip 40 Deg Front Tire (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-High-Grip-40-Deg-Front-Tire_p_41448.html)
Kyosho Mini-Z F1 High Grip 30 Deg Front Tire (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-High-Grip-30-Deg-Front-Tire_p_41447.html)
Kyosho Mini-Z F1 High Grip 20 Deg Front Tire (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-High-Grip-20-Deg-Front-Tire_p_41445.html)
Kyosho Mini-Z F1 High Grip 20 Deg Rear Tire (http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-High-Grip-20-Deg-Rear-Tire_p_41446.html)

Motors:
PN Racing Mini-Z PNWC Bushing Motor 50 Turn (http://www.kenonhobby.com/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-PNWC-Bushing-Motor-50-Turn_p_43050.html)
PN Racing Mini-Z PNWC 70 Turn Offcial Stock Motor (http://www.kenonhobby.com/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-PNWC-70-Turn-Offcial-Stock-Motor_p_43044.html)

Ball bearings:
Reflex Racing High Grade - have lots of them...
Going to solder on PN motor wires for all the electronics.

rajiex
2012.11.20, 06:02 AM
w00t

That R246 black motor pod and DPS looked really good!
Think that's the one I "need"...

I have it. I think its great. I upgrade all my disk plates to the Atomic Teflon. So smooth.

NoBrainer
2012.11.20, 06:47 AM
I think 1deg camber is ok but what are you guys driving and what is working?
Do you use any toe-in / toe-out?

briankstan
2012.11.20, 07:04 AM
I wouldn't bother with the 20 fronts, Most everyone I have every races with has used either 30's or 40's for the front. they 20's on the rear are what you want.

Either will work for the motor mount, but the PN one is my preference.

Get the 1 degree knuckles for even wear on you front tires, I've been running 1 degree knuckles for every and have never needed a change and the tires run flat.

NoBrainer
2012.11.20, 07:17 AM
Thanks.

I won't get the 20's at first then and not 0deg camber.
But are you running any toe-in or toe-out or just 0 deg?

NoBrainer
2012.11.21, 02:17 AM
I got uncertain about the R246 motorpod. Due to the adjustment of the motor.
PN got a much better way to do it since I want the 64p spur/pinion.
But PN don't have a black motor pod...

imxlr8ed
2012.11.21, 02:27 AM
I Sharpied mine. :D

It does wear off, but it's a pretty big Sharpie and I just touch it up once in a while.

NoBrainer
2012.11.21, 02:28 AM
LOL

Good idea!

NoBrainer
2013.02.07, 07:15 AM
Is it possible to use the "old" wing with the MF-015 and MF-015 body?
So that the wing is connected to the chassi and not the body.
I was thinking about remodeling the new white body.

seanminiz
2013.02.22, 03:53 PM
Guys,

what rear spring/ damper do you guys suggest? I have the pn rear mount, but no shock or disc damper. My lap times are ok now.. I have the old atomic mount and damper.. But i dont want to take them off my other f1. Looking for somthing better. Any ideas?

NoBrainer
2013.04.15, 11:44 AM
yes!
Got me a cheap MF-015 chassi this weekend.
Now I just need body and parts...

NoBrainer
2013.04.19, 03:54 AM
Do the "old" MF-010 body's fit MF-015??

cowboysir
2013.04.19, 09:35 AM
Yes....I put a Jordan F1 body on a MF-015 for a friend with no issues.

imxlr8ed
2013.04.19, 09:43 AM
Short answer... yes.

Addendum, don't expect to use the newer style clear bumpers from Kyosho for the older front wings and vice-versa.

NoBrainer
2013.04.19, 10:02 AM
Thanks

but then I need to figure out the bumpers for each type of body.
Thanks guys.

imxlr8ed
2013.04.19, 11:56 AM
Only the newer style bodies have the wider front wings, and the all take the same bumpers. Old style bodies are all compatible to the old style bumpers. Other than that, everything else is compatible.

Of course, you could just order a clearly labeled aftermarket bumper from somewhere. ;)

NoBrainer
2013.04.19, 01:56 PM
Ah no problem.
I got the new style bumper.

I'm going to order UID old style bumper I think and use it with a McLaren body.
Ordering all other parts now, so it's exciting times....

http://www.kenonhobby.com/R246-Mini-Z-F1-Alu-Steering-Blocks-1d_p_44819.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-Front-Spring-Set_p_41439.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-Spring-Set-For-Rear-Shock_p_41465.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-V2-Ultra-Light-Weight-Ball-Diff-Shaft-_p_42694.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-Pro-LCG-Motor-Mount-Orange_p_42686.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-Tire-Label-Michelin_p_41471.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-PNWC-Bushing-Motor-50-Turn_p_43050.html
http://www.reflexracing.net/Kyosho-Mini-Z-Pressure-Plate-for-Ball-diff-2WD_p_230.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-Tire-Label-Bridgestone_p_41470.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-MF010-Friction-Shock-Set_p_41454.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-Carbon-Rear-Sus_p_41429.html

http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-High-Grip-30-Deg-Front-Tire_p_41447.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/Kyosho-Mini-Z-F1-High-Grip-20-Deg-Front-Tire_p_41445.html
http://www.kenonhobby.com/PN-Racing-Mini-Z-F1-RCP-Rear-Tire-6-Degree-1-Pair_p_42690.html

I got the rest to finish my differential I hope. Or else I got to contact Rune....

I'm looking so forward to this.
Going for white / orange in Toyota Panasonic 2002 schema.

NoBrainer
2013.05.13, 03:01 AM
sh*t

My DPS don't fit over the RA-24T electronics due to ICS connector.
Wondering a bit what to do.

NoBrainer
2013.05.28, 09:12 AM
Ah, adapted the DPS and now things fit.

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-05-28152123_zps94763c74.jpg

Drilled a bigger hole in the DPS and fasten it under.

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-05-28153903_zpsacf6e063.jpg

Fixed the distance between motor pod and DPS with shims and a longer screw

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-05-28153920_zps4fffa1ff.jpg

Just wating for my body and a way to fix my diff.

Traveler
2013.06.13, 05:46 AM
Nice build NoBrainer!

I had assembled all the stock parts to build 2 MF-015s (I always like having a backup), but decided not to and sold the two boards. I may attempt to build just one for an upcomming event, but am not clear on compatibility of older bodies designed for the MF-010 chassis with the new MF-015 chassis.

Yes....I put a Jordan F1 body on a MF-015 for a friend with no issues.

Short answer... yes.

My questions are:

I thought the newer bodies had side tabs that held them in place by locking into holes on the sides of the new chassis. Do the older bodies stay on the newer chassis, or are they more likely to pop off in a collision?

Are any modifications to the older bodies or newer chassis necessary for them to fit well together?

Any other MF-010 body/MF-015 chassis fitment considerations???

Thanks for your responses! :)

NoBrainer
2013.06.13, 06:48 AM
The only thing I found so fra is that you can't use the front bumper.
So if you got an old body, you need the old style bumper.
If you got new body you new new style bumper.

Maybe there are many more differencies, but have not run into any problems so far. Except front bumper. (Not the wing)

NoBrainer
2013.06.14, 03:57 AM
Cleaned up the body a bit and starting to form it as I want it.

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-06-14085759_zps9befbe88.jpg

started to fill all the holes

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-06-14092319_zps79250f9c.jpg

NoBrainer
2013.11.06, 03:55 AM
have done the soldering and paint.
Tested it last night and it was "different" and really cool.

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-11-05215051_zps67c40df0.jpg (http://s427.photobucket.com/user/NoBrainerNoN/media/RC-miniz/2013-11-05215051_zps67c40df0.jpg.html)

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-11-05215108_zps064f3414.jpg (http://s427.photobucket.com/user/NoBrainerNoN/media/RC-miniz/2013-11-05215108_zps064f3414.jpg.html)

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-11-05215140_zps5b863caa.jpg (http://s427.photobucket.com/user/NoBrainerNoN/media/RC-miniz/2013-11-05215140_zps5b863caa.jpg.html)

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-11-05213154_zps2ab3e142.jpg (http://s427.photobucket.com/user/NoBrainerNoN/media/RC-miniz/2013-11-05213154_zps2ab3e142.jpg.html)

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-11-05213137_zpseb385267.jpg (http://s427.photobucket.com/user/NoBrainerNoN/media/RC-miniz/2013-11-05213137_zpseb385267.jpg.html)

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/NoBrainerNoN/RC-miniz/2013-11-05213210_zps2e8042c3.jpg (http://s427.photobucket.com/user/NoBrainerNoN/media/RC-miniz/2013-11-05213210_zps2e8042c3.jpg.html)

It drifted out in left turns, until I found a loose screw.
Now it works much better.

I still miss rear springs to adjust it a little better and I also need to see how it runs compared to others on a larger track. Just tested on 90cm rcp witch was very bumpy.

But I really loved it.

tudor_47
2013.11.06, 05:13 AM
looking good!

u'll need the Lajf Racing damper plates to complete your setup.. ;)

NoBrainer
2013.11.06, 05:24 AM
looking good!

u'll need the Lajf Racing damper plates to complete your setup.. ;)

I might, but then again... Lajf don't have any MF-015 parts in there shop so...
It might be some secret stuff Lajf got, but won't sell...

:p

tudor_47
2013.11.06, 05:46 AM
ya, secret stuff...

they work very good though.

And yes they are not in the shop yet..

NoBrainer
2014.02.20, 07:37 AM
Do you guys use tire tape on your F1's?

I use the PN rules with 50T motor.
I got both Kyosho carbon and that trp? sideplates.
I have soldered new wires for the car.

I see that the Canadians are using quite stiff rear and front, with 1 deg camber knuckles.
Since I'm using the "original" DPS, should I then have it stiff like they have?

Missing some acceleration out of corners.
Using PN 64-p diff.

No problems with reverse with the MF-015.

Got UID front protection coming over seas. Looking forward to see how it works.
Only pitty is that it's only me that drive F1 in Norway right now.

Pinger
2015.04.09, 04:42 AM
Do you know any store still selling MantisWorx F1 Front Wing
Thank you.

cowboysir
2015.04.09, 07:45 AM
No.

I'd look at Useful Idiot Design in the manufacturer section at their awesome 3d printed front wings.

NoBrainer
2015.04.09, 09:32 AM
No store is selling MantisWorx anymore.
So ether used or go for UID.