Carolina Cup Challenge General Discussion Thread

[Daddy Rabbit]

Hey guys let's keep discussions about the series in this thread and off the threads for individual CCC Race threads.
Thank you.

[Daddy Rabbit]

Is there a thread for the rules of the CCC.:confused:
I know that Landon and Pedro were working on them.:)
Where do we find them?:o

[kwsmith29]

Albert, can you help with this.

[kwsmith29]

I have two responses for you.

First of all; I believe if you want to win the overall Carolina Cup Individual title you shouldn't get the luxury of a drop or two(please, these are just my thoughts). If you want the Cup you run every race and every class, do your best and let the chips fall where they may. I'm a racer, and if I want the title and I'm heading to the beach and the classes chosen were classes we don't run at my local track you bet your butt I'll change or build to what's running and do my best. Even when I have the luxury of the drops. I think we here at HSH were thinking differently when we discussed drops last year or whenever it was. The basic thought was to drop an event not a class. But remember this was when we were talking about including the club in Maryland and having a six race series. We knew then not everybody could do that much traveling. Lets face facts, the guys racing for the individual title are and have been at every race.

And secondly, we all know that a 94mm or 98mm Can Am has a distinct handling advantage over a 102mm LM or Prototype car. And besides that LM was one of the original cup classes. We here at HSH just never quit running them. They have been in our race program since they were first released. Hell, don't forget we run five classes down here. GT2 every week and then rotate LM2, Box Stock, Can Am, and F1 weekly. This past Thursday we had 3 full heats of GT2 and 12 or 13 LM2 cars. Then we usually have 10 or so Can Am, 12 to 14 Box Stock, and maybe 8 F1's. The HSH guys always show up with cars for all classes.

Maybe a few of us from each group need to sit down and figure out what works best. This is a good bunch of guys here at HSH, I just don't want to see them at any disadvantage. And for that matter any of the Let's go Racing guys either. I'm sure we can find common ground here.

Please don't be offended, I'm just speaking my mind.

Wade

[Daddy Rabbit]

Wade.....I need to figure out how you copied and pasted that post to this thread.:confused:
But thanks.:)

[chad508]

the down side i see to the picking the classes for the other club is that the club should pick based on what the locals run. i.e like the last event we had we ran 90mm, and hsh runs lm. its just what the locals run. if say we pick hsh to run mod awd 90mm do you feel anyone from hsh would run it. same with us and lm. we have a couple that would run it but odds are not many would chose to run it over another class. i have nothing against lm but im just not going to setup a chassis to run a couple times a year. i never understood the fact of having can am that allows lm, but lm does not allow pan. to me it should be all one or totally separate.

just my 2 cents. as long as we race and do it as much as possible i am happy happy

this is my response from earlier

[chad508]

but what you have to look at is not everyone has that luxury. the ones that typically run at the top do have the means to change cars for an event, but the series is for everyone. i would hate to turn people away from an even because they only have 1 chassis of the 3 being ran.

as for a pan have an advantage over a lm i believe it s all in the driver. look at your own clubs results. you typically dont have a big difference from box stock lm to any other class. i believe it was collin down at one of our events last season that came in second with a box stock lm in the can am class last year. if i could get a tri shock under one with out hacking the body all to pieces i may even run lm on occasion.

lets keep the talking going it only going to make the series better.

[Sammich]

i understand the not dropping of our worst race, but at the same token, i also not only understand but am one of who chad is mentioning of not having the luxury of having different luxuries. i'm only about to have a second running chassis because my first board burned up and i had to get something else to race and i did just get my F1. for the most part, unless i run up on a steal of a deal, i'm pretty sure i'm satisfied personally and monetarily to remain with 2 chassis and a F1.

it is all a hobby for us all, but maintaining just one starts to eat up funds...i cant imagine 3+ chassis.

edit: 1 last thing, i think this 5th/neutral location should be discussed fully this year and put into motion for the 2014 season. i think for the MAIN parties involved (LGR and HSH) it's alot to take in for right now and toput into motion and to find a spot to get and setup. 2013 should be a great year to scout possible places to hold a race...nov/dec should be the month to finalize location/month/who does what wehen and where to make this thing happen

[kwsmith29]

Good points guy's. Maybe the overall Individual driver points needs to a specific class or two classes at each event. Unfortunately the reality of it is under the current drop system if you don't have three cars at at least 2 events your not going to be in contention to battle for the individual cup anyways.

If ref to your comment " i would hate to turn people away from an event because they only have 1 chassis of the 3 being ran."

I total agree. Again I believe we need to have discussion between clubs and set classes so this no longer is a problem. The Carolina Cup was put together as a group effort between two clubs to put together a series where manufactures were not dictating the rules to fit and sell there there products. It is very clear we are not going to agree on classes. The Cup from the start was suppose to have 70t GT class. My understanding was this was our premier class. The other two classes were the choice of the hosting club. I don't know how else to say this, but to just say it.

If I'm stating the original agreement between clubs out of context, Would Mike Morse, or Landon please speak up and let me know.

Wade

[Daddy Rabbit]

Wade......Now that you mention it, I think you are correct.:o
As soon as Landon, Mike or Pedro verifies that we have to run GT 2, I will make the proper changes in the other thread.;)

[Daddy Rabbit]

OK guys Landon has gotten back to me and I was incorrect by not running GT2 and I apologize to everyone for my inocience.:o
I will make changes on the Race #1 thread.:D

[chad508]

I like your idea of keeping the classes separate in points. We could have a gt point series no matter if we run mod or stock then a separate series for f1 and so on. I like this idea as it keeps the guys with 1-2 cars in a points series and those who would run all 3 have a chance for more. We could still do a overall champ as we have done as well

[hrdrvr]

All right guys, I'm late to the party. I've been too busy watching the Snow Birds to see all this going on til this morning. I'm really happy we are having a good discussion on what should, and what will happen in the future!

I've said it before, and I whole-heartedly believe that our two groups need to have a controlled motor class! The 70t GT class has been a staple of our series, and it should be run at nearly every event. We have had times where we ran 70t in F1, Can Am, or LM in its place, and I think it is fine if we mix that up every now and then. I still think we should have at least one 70t class at every cup race!

As far as running just one cup class for points.....That is a viable idea, and warrants discussion. The way the current rules are written, and the ideas behind the cup in the first place was to spark people's interest in going to the other club, and supporting them by running as many classes as possible. This is why all classes count, and I think it is very important. It was always been important to Jim and HS as participation directly influences revenue. It is now very important to me too (now this is for my lively hood, not just for fun, or for a club). I'd like to make the decisions to push us to the highest participation possible :D

That being said, I think the drops help generate participation. If some one misses an event early in the year, the rest of the year is written off for them unless they get to have some drops. With the drops they may chose to join the series and compete for the highest position they deserve.

The drops still have the highest benefit to those who participate the most. We say the ones at the top are racing every race, or the ones who want it the most will make every singe class at every single race, but that is untrue. Wade, I know you, Josh, Chad, Conor, Albert, and Terry all wanted it as much as Rodney did. Every one of you guys missed at least one entire event though. It's just the way it fell, and IMO, you guys deserve to have drops to eliminate what real life made you miss out on. I did use one single class drop in LM as I didn't want to set a car up for up there. In all honesty, I'm going to run classes that I think I have a good chance at performing well in. I will take the loss in a class or even two, to make sure I perform well in at least one. The race in Mooresville, I only ran one class, because that's all I felt prepared for. If I can feel prepared for an LM race at HS in the future, I will run it....if not, I accept the consequences for not participating. To answer the question about LGR guys setting up LM cars, I think Bryan, Brandon, and Andy have all expressed interest in doing that, and you will likely see them with cars if there is a cup class that is LM. I've got a mod legal LM body, and would possibly make an attempt to get it ready. If not, I lose out on points. If I drop the whole event, I would accept that, but the next guy may just chose not to come. That is the reasoning behind single class drops as opposed to whole event drops....to ensure maximum participation.

I will try and get the results from last season up. I remember discussing, and analyzing them, but for the life of me, I can't find the thread/post. Once I get them up, you will be surprised at how little the drops effected the final results.

[miamimcnutt]

i think with these 3 classes gt1 ,gt2 and can-am1 ,this will be one of the biggest races i have participated in and im pumped

[hatley]

:D I'm still in all three I have one suggestion just pad all
the walls so my son does not destroy any more body lol :eek:

[chad508]

:D I'm still in all three I have one suggestion just pad all
the walls so my son does not destroy any more body lol :eek:

you could just pad his body. lol

[miamimcnutt]

ok guys now that we have this whole gt2 thing sorted out we need to focus on the 5th race while everyone is in a typing mood(lol)

it seems to me that everyone thinks the 5th race should be at the end of the year

so here is what the schedule would be

march 2nd @ LGR
may @HSH
july @HSH
september @LGR
november @ neutral site ?

now just to get ball rolling again i think that we should have a definite answer for a 5th race by end of MAY just so we have plenty of time to get things ready (ex.city,renting of venue etc.)

i have heard of different cities to host this
fayetville,rockingham,darlington,florence ( im sure ive spelled fayetville wrong, sorry)

i also think that this is 1st thing we need to decide if we are running 5th race so we can book a spot

so if you have input on this (location,entry fees,etc.) lets start now so it doesnt creep up on us

[Sammich]

seems like darlington/florence would be a neutral spot, generally 2 hrs from our location and 2 from yall location, if i'm thinking correctly.

[kwsmith29]

I agree Sammich(it's Tony right?). I'll do some calling around and get some venue pricing. That way we'll know what were looking at.

Wade

[Sammich]

I agree Sammich(it's Tony right?). I'll do some calling around and get some venue pricing. That way we'll know what were looking at.

Wade

Bryan actually :D...i'll get a name tag that states Sammich on it one day

[Daddy Rabbit]

HSH, if you guys get a chance tonight you might want to talk about the May Race date.:D
Thank you.:)

[Traveler]

Don't retirees sleep until noon??? :confused:

[Sammich]

Jeesh lol!!!

[chad508]

Hard to sleep with mini z on the brain.

[Daddy Rabbit]

HA HA I am up between 6:00 & 6:300 most every day.:)
But I go to bed with the chickens.lol:D

[chad508]

And theres a lot of chickens in the keys

[hotrod68]

Andy, you can put me and Conor down for all three, also thats 2011 and 2012;)

[Traveler]

Rodney, your handle reminds me of Rod Stewart, aka "Rod the Bod"!

[chad508]

Rodney might not like you talking about his "handle" lol

[Traveler]

His hot rod handle :eek: LOL!

[Traveler]

Would be nice to post a link here and in the CC#1 thread about the class rules. Specifically the minimum class weights... Pretty sure Can-Am is unlimited, but don't recall GT1 and 2 minimums!

[mleemor60]

GT-1 no weight limit. GT-2 175gr I think.

[Daddy Rabbit]

Thanks Mike.:)
Marwan.....I think you are right, but I can not find the rules, classes, etc and I am pretty sure that Pedro did this.:confused:
If we could find them, maybe I could learn how to copy yhem over to the threads.:cool:

Mike .... Did I hear you are not making it to the race?:(

[miamimcnutt]

Grand Touring Class GT2

Chassis: Any 1/28th scale 2WD chassis.
Track Width: 80mm max
Wheel Base: 86-102mm

Body: Kyosho ASC, White Body or equivalent (TRP, Iwaver, X-Mod, etc...) hard plastic bodies allowed, excluding LM-LeMans Prototype bodies (See LMP class list) or Can-Am/Pan-type bodies. No thin shell Lexan/polycarbonate bodies allowed. Bodies may be altered for wheelbase but a maximum wheel opening of 31mm measured horizontally must be maintained. Wheel wells may be altered for tire clearance but the body must cover the tire completely when viewed from above. Cabin window must be retained but may be lightened internally, polycarbonate (Lexan) windows allowed. Headlight buckets may be removed but lenses or covers must be retained. Taillight lenses and housings may be removed. The rear fascia or bumper maybe cut but no higher than 18mm from the chassis bottom plane. Holes are legal in the remaining fascia. Small body parts such as mirrors, canards and exhaust pipes may be omitted. Front air-dams, splitters and body sides may be trimmed for track clearance.

Width: 82mm max.
Length: 200mm max
Height: 70mm max

Wing: All wings original to the body are legal. Aftermarket or non original wings must fit within the confines of main body. Wing must not extend higher than roof line relative to chassis bottom plane (excluding extensive roof scoops, for example Kyosho NSX), past widest point of body, or beyond rear of body work. This includes all parts of wing (side dams, etc...).

Electronics: Stock Mini Z board, Fets unlimited.

Batteries: 4 x AAA NiCad, NiMh or Alkaline (Lithium based batteries NOT allowed)

Wheels: Any Mini-Z type wheels, plastic or aluminum.
Front: 9 x 22mm max
Rear: 11 x 22mm max

Tires: Any rubber Mini-Z type tires (no foam).

Min Weight: 175g with transponder.

Motor: 70 turn hand out(hand out motors will be returned to race director at end of event.)

[miamimcnutt]

GT1

Chassis: Any 1/28th scale 2WD chassis.
Track Width: 80mm max
Wheel Base: 86-102mm

Body: Kyosho ASC, White Body or equivalent (TRP, Iwaver, X-Mod, etc...) hard plastic bodies allowed, excluding LM-LeMans Prototype bodies (See LMP class list) or Can-Am/Pan-type bodies. No thin shell Lexan/polycarbonate bodies allowed. Bodies may be altered for wheelbase but a maximum wheel opening of 31mm measured horizontally must be maintained. Wheel wells may be altered for tire clearance but the body must cover the tire completely when viewed from above. Cabin window must be retained but may be lightened internally, polycarbonate (Lexan) windows allowed. Headlight buckets may be removed but lenses or covers must be retained. Taillight lenses and housings may be removed. The rear fascia or bumper maybe cut but no higher than 18mm from the chassis bottom plane. Holes are legal in the remaining fascia. Small body parts such as mirrors, canards and exhaust pipes may be omitted. Front air-dams, splitters and body sides may be trimmed for track clearance.
Width: 82mm max.
Length: 200mm max
Height: 70mm max
Wing: All wings original to the body are legal. Aftermarket or non original wings must fit within the confines of main body. Wing must not extend higher than roof line relative to chassis bottom plane (excluding extensive roof scoops, for example Kyosho NSX), past widest point of body, or beyond rear of body work. This includes all parts of wing (side dams, etc...).

Electronics: Unlimited.

Batteries: 4 x AAA NiCad, NiMh or Alkaline (Lithium based batteries NOT allowed)

Wheels: Any Mini-Z type wheels, plastic or aluminum.
Front: 9 x 22mm max
Rear: 11 x 22mm max

Tires: Any rubber Mini-Z type tires (no foam).

Min Weight: None.

Motor: Any 130 size brushed motor. Brushless not allowed.



Can Am Classes

Chassis: Any 1/28th scale 2WD chassis.
Track Width: 85mm max
Wheel Base: 90-106mm

Body: Atomic VDS (any version), PN Pan Car (any type), Le Mans Prototype or Can-Am style polycarbonate (Lexan) body (open or closed ****pit), Kyosho Le Mans ASC, White Body or similar.
Width: 85mm max.
Length: 200mm max
Height: 60mm max
Wing: No limitation other than must fall within Body Width-Length-Height envelope.

Electronics: Unlimited.

CanAm1

Min Weight: None.

Wheels: Any Mini-Z type wheels, plastic or aluminum.
Front: 11 x 22mm max
Rear: 11 x 22mm max

Tires: Any rubber or foam tires.

Batteries: 7.4V max. (Lithium based allowed).

Motor: Any 130 size motor. Brushless allowed.

[mleemor60]

Thanks Mike.:)
Marwan.....I think you are right, but I can not find the rules, classes, etc and I am pretty sure that Pedro did this.:confused:
If we could find them, maybe I could learn how to copy yhem over to the threads.:cool:

Mike .... Did I hear you are not making it to the race?:(

Afirmative. Current budget constraints will keep me close to home indefinitely.

[Daddy Rabbit]

Afirmative. Current budget constraints will keep me close to home indefinitely.

Sorry to hear that Mike....You will be missed.:(

[Traveler]

Thanks Mike.:)
Marwan.....I think you are right, but I can not find the rules, classes, etc and I am pretty sure that Pedro did this.:confused:
If we could find them, maybe I could learn how to copy yhem over to the threads.:cool:

Mike .... Did I hear you are not making it to the race?:(

Oops! I probably should have posted what I did in the CC#1 thread here. Anyway, it would be nice to have a Rules thread under Carolina Cup for all to reference as needed and for it to be a sticky.

[chad508]

^ you sure are needy. I think we need to change your handle to Nancy. Lol

[Daddy Rabbit]

Whoooooo you callin Nancy?:eek::D

[Traveler]

Good one Chad, but let's see who's acting like a girl on March 2nd :eek:

Oh, and FYI my female name is Thelma ;)

[mleemor60]

Thelma and Millie. Nice couple.

[miamimcnutt]

Oops! I probably should have posted what I did in the CC#1 thread here. Anyway, it would be nice to have a Rules thread under Carolina Cup for all to reference as needed and for it to be a sticky. (Marwan)

ive posted a CC rules thread hopefully everyone will see the no discussion here phrase , i think i covered every class in the Carolina Cup

hope this helps everyone

[Daddy Rabbit]

Albert....Good job on the CCC Rules Thread.:)
Thanks.

[Daddy Rabbit]

Has there anymore talk about the date for Race #2 in May?:rolleyes:

[Daddy Rabbit]

OK HSH, did you guys talk about a May date this weekend?:)
I have a busy schedule in May, but should be able to work it around you guys, if I have a little notice.:cool:

[miamimcnutt]

may 4th is the day

wade is handling CCC info

[Daddy Rabbit]

Albert....That is great, I got it on my calender, will be there
.:D

[Daddy Rabbit]

Tommy....HSH has picked their date to host CCC Race #2, May 4th.:)
They are also hosting a CCC Race in July.;)
I hope you are getting this info.:confused:

[miamimcnutt]

hey guys

the CCC race #2 at HSH has been moved from may 4th to april 27th sorry for any inconvenience this was an owners decision outta my control hope this does not effect anyone i just got the news today and posted it as quick as i could

i will post classes and fees around friday or satarday

[chad508]

I will do my best to get off work. I scheduled everything around may 4th and it put me working April 27th. I will keep hopes up

[BJH44]

I think I have to take a I-car class for work tht day....... not 100% sure, but I do believe thts when it is.....

[chad508]

Any chance of being able to pick a different date? I would hate for Landon and Andy to be the only ones to make it. If I can get someone to trade weekends with me I can come but it puts me and the person swapping working 3 weekends in a row. Hard to get someone to swap for that

[Sammich]

if it's gona change again...i gota know something soon..

[tommy_greeneyes]

this change has hurt my chances to come down.I will try my best.just my opinion for next year.when you guys do a Carolina Cup get all 4 dates together at the same time.so people can plan there trip.now I have to find a way to get rid of my plane tickets and just drive down now.smh

[Sammich]

maybe a little more discussion w/ the store owner because this puts everyone from out of town at a disadvantage, and for their possible income on that weekend

[hrdrvr]

I've been doing this for a long time, and I can say, this is going to happen. There are always unforeseen circumstances around every event. We just need to see what the best possible solution is. Hopefully with this feedback given, the guys at HS can work something else out that works better for every one.

[tommy_greeneyes]

I have solutely agree with you Landon...for next year's Carolina Cup race.just make sure you have the dates before you start the first race...:D

[miamimcnutt]

sorry guys its no ones fault the shop owners made the change if u guys would like you can call them
i will try my best to fix this problem but complaining will get you no where

once again this was shop owners decision

as landon will tell you trying to make everyone happy while setting the date for everyone is not easy

[BJH44]

wasn't any complaining going on, just us stating tht its gonna be hard for most of us to make the event, and seeing tht the owners would like to make a profit, tht they might wanna change the date....

[hrdrvr]

I don't think any one is getting mad with you Albert, just the situation. It's best for every one to express your grievances, just watch how you do it! :D

[pedrocamp]

Agreed, its hard to find a date that will work for everyone, best you can do is find a date that works for most and of course the track owners. If the date that works for most doesn't work for the track owners then they have to decide what is more important for them. In the end we all do this for fun, not for a living... except for the track/hobbyshop owners like Jim, Vicki and Landon.

[miamimcnutt]

i will talk to them and see what can be done

[tommy_greeneyes]

i made my changes today for getting off for work AGAIN:( i would be nice if the date stay as april 27th, Its not easy kicking out money for the travel far if your going to which dates around,

[hrdrvr]

Yeah Tommy, but there are more people to plan around than just you. It's looking like the 27th might take the whole MB team out of play, but we need more time to determine if this is true.......

FWIW, every one is effected by this change...every one! Some of us have put it out there that we aren't happy about the date change. Before going and changing all of your plans (or making new ones), give them (the HS crew) a chance to respond. Albert (miamimcnutt) isn't the one making this decision. He just happens to be our messenger. I'd say at least give him til the weekend to find out some more information before jumping the gun on plane tickets....that's just my advice from one traveling racer to another.....

[Sammich]

Yeah Tommy, but there are more people to plan around than just you. It's looking like the 27th might take the whole MB team out of play, but we need more time to determine if this is true.......

FWIW, every one is effected by this change...every one! Some of us have put it out there that we aren't happy about the date change. Before going and changing all of your plans (or making new ones), give them (the HS crew) a chance to respond. Albert (miamimcnutt) isn't the one making this decision. He just happens to be our messenger. I'd say at least give him til the weekend to find out some more information before jumping the gun on plane tickets....that's just my advice from one traveling racer to another.....

my sentiments...i'm in the waiting pool right now...

yea i know i'm not mad i just have to see whats up with the dates. i'm sure i can make it either way but a solid date would make it clutch to book a rm at a good rate

[tommy_greeneyes]

I hope you guys at HSH come up with the date for the 2nd racing, I thought everyone sat down with Vicky and jim on the date already,the series started already. OMG

Pedro your right.not racing Mini zs for a living.its about racing and having fun .:D

[kwsmith29]

Sorry guys I'm a little late to the party. We all made arrangements for the 4th, even us at High Speed. There was a decision made and unfortunately it has changed. Hobby shop owner made it clear the 24th of April is a better date for them. I myself had to go in a barter with my boss to rearrange days off again.

Guys please remember, our track owner is not a racer. He is graceful enough to host our weekly racing. When there is Cup race or bigger Saturday event he has to make special arrangements to accommodate, extend hours and pay employees extra to cover the extra hours. This week just works better. I'm not questioning this decision. We are just letting everyone know about the change in event dates. Sorry again for any troubles.

I will have an event post up soon with entry list and classes. Well hell the classes are; GT2(GT 70t), LM2(LM 70t), and Can Am1(Can Am open).

Wade

[tommy_greeneyes]

Sorry guys I'm a little late to the party. We all made arrangements for the 4th, even us at High Speed. There was a decision made and unfortunately it has changed. Hobby shop owner made it clear the 24th of April is a better date for them. I myself had to go in a barter with my boss to rearrange days off again.

Guys please remember, our track owner is not a racer. He is graceful enough to host our weekly racing. When there is Cup race or bigger Saturday event he has to make special arrangements to accommodate, extend hours and pay employees extra to cover the extra hours. This week just works better. I'm not questioning this decision. We are just letting everyone know about the change in event dates. Sorry again for any troubles.

I will have an event post up soon with entry list and classes. Well hell the classes are; GT2(GT 70t), LM2(LM 70t), and Can Am1(Can Am open).

Wade

hey wade the April 24th falls on a wednesday is this right ?

[miamimcnutt]

he meant the 27th

[kwsmith29]

Sorry, April 27, 2013....

[Sammich]

i understand...will there be discussion thursday night regarding possible other dates that MAY be better for us out of towners. like i'm sure i'm ok w/ it, it's just hendering me from booking a hotel this time around. i kind of dont want to harass my friend everytime i come through town for a place to stay

[dwight]

I just wanted to know if any racer can come. And what classes are you all running.

[kwsmith29]

May is not going to work for several reasons. The Charlotte Nascar race, there is also a Carolina Short Course Challange race in May, and again the 4th just didn't work for the shop owners.


Again guys sorry for the in convince,
Wade

[Sammich]

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[hrdrvr]

I just wanted to know if any racer can come. And what classes are you all running.

Every one is welcome to compete at our events!

On April 27th we will be running a 70t GT spec class, and LM 70t spec class, and an open motor class featuring LM or Pan style bodies.

Do you happen to race with the Remnant group in the MD area?

[Mike Keely]

Yes, he does run with us.

[cosmicsoul]

So when is the race and what classes are you running?

Put me down for all of them!

Put Lincoln down for one too!

Just give the individual cup to Rodney or Chad and be done with it;).

For what it is worth multiple classes can be run with one chassis in several instances with a simple motor change or not. If you had 2 chassis the possiblity of running 4 classes is there.

If not just run one class. Never done it but I am sure it is fun!

Not sure why you all want to have a race on nuetral ground. If it is so that no one has unfair advantage just set up the track the day of the race. That will level out the playing field initially. If it is to save money for one side or the other. Everyone is going to spend more this way.

[cosmicsoul]

Oops just read Landons post about the race date and classes:).

[Traveler]

Cosmic what? That reminds me of a pizza I used to get at Mellow Mushroom :rolleyes:

[Daddy Rabbit]

Jay....Make sure you sign up on the 2013 CCC Race #2 Thread when Wade starts it with all the details.:)
I will be good to race with you again.:D

[pedrocamp]

All you need is one car Jay!!!

[Traveler]

No. What he needs is to NOT step on MY cars! ;)

[hrdrvr]

JAY!!!!!....Jay.....Woohoo!

[Traveler]

Do you mean Jay Who???

[Daddy Rabbit]

Landon......How are we looking to get the points standing up?:confused:
Is there anything that I can do from a far to help?:)
Does Sarah have a spread sheet worked out for gathering info per driver?:rolleyes:

[Daddy Rabbit]

Ditto, Ditto

[Daddy Rabbit]

Albert.....It is my understanding that 2013 CCC Race#3 will be July 20th at HSH, is this correct and confirmed with Vickie and Jim?:)
Please confirm, so that I can make my July travel plans.;)
Thank you.

[miamimcnutt]

yes it is july 20th just getting the other things in order then I will post classes, fees and times

[Daddy Rabbit]

Thanks Albert.:cool:

[Traveler]

FYI Albert posted below in HSH thread. I'm sure he'll set up a new CCC3 thread when he gets back, but for those (like me) that like to know well in advance, the classes for CCC3 have been decided.

sorry about not posting last night results getting ready to go to ohio will post them when I get home on Monday

CCC#3 classes will be
GT70 (hand out)
LM open
F1 open

[Daddy Rabbit]

Thanks Albert & Marwan. :D