2012.05.02, 06:47 AM
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Sad to say if it can not run on RCP track in close racing like the cars,
then it is just not competitive for the market.
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2012.05.02, 07:43 AM
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#92
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2012.05.02, 10:51 AM
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#93
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Ducati... too beautiful... must resist!!!
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2012.05.02, 07:07 PM
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Is it me or is that a combo photoshop from real version and model?
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2012.05.03, 04:18 AM
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look, there is no gyro in the rear wheel.. not actual model somehow,highly a scaled model
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2012.05.03, 09:49 AM
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Location: Grand Valley On. Can.
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I believe the Ducati is the real thing, no metal support bars coming from the side, driver has his head turned, radiator, etc.
I tried to run it last night on a carpet track with 20 years of traction compound build up. It again needs a layout made to accommodate it with easy turns. The traction was better than my driveway which made for the need for even more precise movements. There is a bit of a learning curve to driving these bikes.
I think because I wore down the plastic ends of the support bars while driving on pavement, that the rough plastic was grabbing the carpet and causing spin outs.
My conclusion is that you just aren't going to drop this down on your average Mini 96 track and start racing. A club with tons of space and endless amounts of track could make a go of it, although it would be a marshalling nightmare. I have no doubt that an ingenious member here will mod them to make them more track worthy and who knows what the aftermarket parts guys will come up with. Maybe training wheels.
I believe Kyosho may sell a lot of these. The detail is great and collectors will probably jump right on board. Unlike the Mini Z, slippery household floors are the easiest place to drive the little bikes and that could allow the average person to have quite a bit of fun if drifting is cool with them. It also is very good outside on the right surface, another place I wouldn't take a Z.
I put the tx in the hands of 6 guys with years of RC experience and they all said, "wow it looks great, very cool, neat" but, none of them liked driving it enough to buy one. My wife called it "cute". I'll put it on the shelf, it's just not a Mini Z racer.
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2012.05.03, 12:34 PM
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any luck pairing this bike with any KO modules so far? It stated FHSS 2.4G on the back of the box...
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2012.05.03, 12:35 PM
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Thank you Mike for your review. I was going to order mine after seing it doing not so bad on a mini96 > this video but now I have mixed feelings. Maybe the one on the vid was modified to steer tight.
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2012.05.03, 01:15 PM
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I wouldn't think it would pair with a KO module. Kyosho site has this disclaimer: *ASF 2.4GHz transmitter for MINI-Z cannot be used
I wouldn't see the point except for comfort and preference. There are only 3 adjustments and 3 knobs, gyro high, gyro low and centre front wheel.
The driver in the video is very good in my opinion. We need that driver to come on here and tell all, . I don't have RCP but, I couldn't get around like that on any surface I tried. I'm not too bad with my bigger bike so, it can't be just my bad driving... maybe it is my bad driving.
I seem to be able to get around the same as the videos of them drifting on hardwood. I can run the battery down without a wipe out.
Maybe the clear ball on the end of the support bars is optimal on RCP allowing you to actually pivot on it????? If my experiences were like that video, I might have been too giddy to type anything and probably still running right now, lol.
Don't take my comments as bad, it is very fun in the right spot. I'm just not going to add it to the race rotation on Sundays with my buddies.
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2012.05.03, 01:22 PM
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What i mean is other KO modules besides miniz asf ones
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2012.05.03, 01:34 PM
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Sorry, only have Mini Z module. I use Spektrum in everything else.
It seems I'm going to get a chance to run this on a massive concrete floor in a clean warehouse. Should be fun.
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2012.05.03, 06:37 PM
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KO already piped in and said this is not made by them and uses a different 2.4 FHSS setup incompatible. It does raise the question to me that was this a in house design or another third party company? If so, who?
Mike, driving a bike is not like driving a car. Which you may realize, but I don't think many do. It takes a much more smooth driving style. You have to lean the bike in the corner with the steering then use the throttle to adjust the angle. Driving a bike is the land equivalent of flying a Heli. Its many times the experience itself of just driving it consistently that can be satisfying.
As for racing, Mike is right. You really need bigger tracks than most RCP. 1/18th size would be perfect.
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2012.05.03, 10:26 PM
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I couldn't agree more.
After you lean it over and adjust the throttle to get through the corner you have to stand it back up too. It doesn't return to centre like a car does if you let go of the wheel.
The bike is 1/18th scale and multiple bikes could be run together on an appropriate sized layout. The carpet track I was on had plenty of room for other bikes.
Watch your battery doors, mine popped off a few times.
I was told by an avid heli guy; before the days of micros and co-axials; that flying a heli was like balancing a ball bearing on a sheet of plate glass.
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2012.05.04, 11:09 AM
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What scale would this bike be? And could you mod any plastic model kit's to make a custom bike? I'd love to see a replica of the Honda Repsol Racing motorcycle.
My brother has the real Honda Repsol replica and it would be cool to have an RC version of it of this caliber.
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2012.05.04, 12:25 PM
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What you have to take into account is you need the gyro on it's lowest setting to get around a mini 96,with the gyro on full power,it does not want to turn.
I do think it could use a stronger steering link,the stock one feels like a piece of AM aerial.
The main thing to get your head around is not steering like a car. You steer to tip the bike into the turn,then let go of the steering to take the corner,using throttle and minimal counter steer to get through the turn. Then power or more aggressive counter steer will pick the bike back up again.
@Marc,it's 1/18 and Maisto do a huge range of 1/18 model bikes.
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