2008.02.01, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by InZane
Link cars goes back to the late eighties. I ran a CC Lynx - I think it was 89 - that was the first link car to my knowledge.
Single dampers is nothing new either.
What's interesting is that a hard core T-bar supporter like AE joins the link car trend.
So the bottom line is - AE "stole" the concept - just like we did ... Or maybe we just refined it
As I said - GMTA 8)
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What's interesting to me is that single side dampers were ditched a while ago, weren't they? Now that you and Associated are bringing it back, I'm curious as to what changed that turns this into the new winning setup.
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2008.02.02, 02:09 AM
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Don't get mad-Get InZane
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We've tried both disc dampers, Tri oil shocks, single oil shock with two side damper tubes (like the one I'm currently running) and latest set up with the center oil shock and single damper tube. This is what we found to work best so far with the new Pro27AAA (project name) chassis.
1:27/28 scale cars are very light and you don't have to use heavy damping on the rear pod, it's more important to get an equal smooth movement both to the right & left. It's an advantage if you can achieve this with just one damper because it will be lighter and less complex to set up.
That's why we opted for this design - as for AE you have to ask them. 1:12 cars are much heavier - in fact it looks like the new RC12R is using an oil shock instead of a regular damper tube, probably to cope with the much bigger forces involved.
Last edited by InZane; 2008.02.02 at 02:12 AM.
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2008.02.02, 02:10 AM
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Don't get mad-Get InZane
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Sorry - double post
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2008.02.04, 02:06 AM
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Don't get mad-Get InZane
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Pics from Sweden
Here are some pics from the national 1:27/28 series held in Hyltebruk this weekend.
http://www.pocketrocket.se/index.php...=204&Itemid=41
There will be a video later this week as well - I'll give you the link when it's ready.
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2008.02.04, 03:05 PM
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Don't get mad-Get InZane
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1:27 Racing Swedish style
Here's a video from the race in Hyltebruk (my car is the blue/yellow one - if you are able to see it).
http://www.pocketrocket.se/index.php...d=208&Itemid=1
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2008.02.04, 09:12 PM
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I think you were battling with a white VDSII at some point in the race. If that car was yours, I'm very impressed.
Someone got too excited and knocked an apex head on in the first lap. That would probably be me at the local track.
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2008.02.05, 03:41 AM
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Don't get mad-Get InZane
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Yes that's me hitting the rail on the first lap - just in front of the camera as well .
The guy I'm chasing about 3 min into the video is Fredrik von Elling - a former European Champ (Kysosho 1:10 IC) and one of the fastest 1:27 drivers in Sweden.
I won the Swedish 1:10 Off Road Nats and had numerous A-mains in 1:12 Nats as well - but that goes like 20 years back. Nowadays I'm just to lazy to practice as much as it takes to be competitive - I'm 55 years and really enjoying my rocking chair .
There were two Pro27-AAA and my older Pro27-2/3AA in the A-main with three MR-02 filling up the grid. The winner, Magnus Dahlblom, drove a Kyosho (the ballistic red car). Magnus S (Pro27-AAA) was runner up, Fredrik v Elling third with another Kyosho and I was fourth, the second Pro27-AAA was fifth with the last of the MR-02s taking sixth place.
We are happy with the results considering that all three Pro27's made the A-main despite the 30 grams penalty weight rule.
Next time will be a bigger/faster track, Fredrik v Es home track, where our heavier weight hopefully will be less of an disadvantage.
Last edited by InZane; 2008.02.06 at 04:04 AM.
Reason: misspelled one of the names
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2008.02.05, 05:38 AM
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Thats a great race.
It seems; there will be definately a great race in Istanbul.
I just wanted learn 30gr penalty rule. Are you 30grs heavier than other cars (asRTR with body) or is it just a compansation of lexan body.
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2008.02.05, 06:01 AM
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Don't get mad-Get InZane
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According to the Swedish 1:27 rules the minimum weight is 180 grams (RTR) ... BUT!
The rules committe has decided on a 210 grams weight rule for the Pro27 chassis (don't ask me why??).
The AAA-chassis is made to fit directly to the VDSII body - but with a lexan body the weight is approx. 165 gram. That's nearly 50 grams of lead
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2008.02.05, 08:33 PM
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That's a bit messed up... you guys shouldn't be penalized for weight when the 180g limit already requires adding lead to an MR02. Still, knowing that you run with 45g of lead means the car is bloody fast when unrestricted. Good show!
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2008.02.06, 01:51 AM
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Don't get mad-Get InZane
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It depends – if the purpose was to get close racing I must say the rules are a fantastic success (even if it sucks to make the car slower). The A-main on the vid ended with the first 4 separated by only ten seconds after 12 minutes of racing – that’s close!
We are looking forward to the Worlds Final (The Hurda Challenge) in Istanbul in September where there’s a 160 grams limit regardless brand of chassis. I hope to see a lot of chassis and open drivers from all over the world there.
Last edited by InZane; 2008.02.06 at 06:42 AM.
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2008.02.13, 01:39 PM
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Get ready folks... this is the one...
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2008.02.13, 02:08 PM
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Joe, are you importing these to the US?
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2008.02.14, 07:31 PM
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Shhh...
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2008.02.15, 08:53 PM
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Uh, oh! Ready to begin RCP testing tomorrow
Reflex Racing will be contributing on the development of the Pro27AAA on RCP from now on. We have two prototypes at hand and so far so good...
I have to say by far, this is the highest quality chassis I have ever held in my hands. None of the other cars compare. I am extremely impressed with the build quality, finish, quality of the materials, fit of the parts, design, innovation, everything. Even with this being a prototype, it is by far superior to everything else available at the time, all I can say is well done guys...
Now, some pics
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