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Old 2005.03.04, 10:27 PM   #1
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RCP Adjustable Bank Turn

I am working on an RCP adjustable bank turn design that I hope will be available as a kit, very shortly. The kit will assemble in minutes and will require no glue or tools. The user will have the ability to adjust the height of the bank in many increments. The bank will cover an entire 180 degree RCP turn and the tiles will attach to the assembly via side rail attachment PINS that come with the original RCP Track kit.

The design will work for both the standard and mini-tile RCP track kits. After working with the materials to create the bank, I figured that the same process could be used to make humps, jumps and table tops with the RCP track as well. I still have to do some final testing, but should have them available at the same time as the banks.

All my designs use materials readily accessible to most people, but the idea is to offer everything pre-cut/drilled in a kit form at a low cost that may be very close to the price someone would pay for the materials alone. I hope buying the materials in bulk; will help make the price of the kits very attractive to most. I only plan on a very small markup on the kits, since most people that buy them will be previous RCP customers. My goal is to offer a complete 180 degree adjustable bank for around $25 - $29. I am still negotiating the cost of the materials with my supplier and that will ultimately determine the final cost of the kits.

I will keep you updated on the progress.

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Old 2005.03.04, 10:32 PM   #2
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sounds good. it's very nice to know after creating such a great product you are continuiously searchign to make it even better ie; the taller rails, clear rail protectors, mountain tiles, painted turn tiles etc, etc.
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Old 2005.03.04, 10:34 PM   #3
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i would like to get one but a 3 tile wide bank...
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Old 2005.03.04, 10:44 PM   #4
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Thanks,

I have a lot of designs on the drawing board and would love to have them all available, but most of my designs require a great deal of money up front to make the molds. In order to commit to one of them, I would have to be relatively sure that the cost to make the mold would pay for itself in future sales.

We have already spent the money to make a mold that will create a one piece long PIN, so people can double up the side rails for larger RC vehicles. With all the new 1/18 scale trucks and the existing 1/18 scale cars, a taller rail was needed. We already have contracts to build many 1/18 scale tracks for large companies here in the US and overseas, so this investment will be worth it.
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Old 2005.03.04, 10:47 PM   #5
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i would like to get one but a 3 tile wide bank...
I think the current design could be extended to handle a 3 tile wide. Making a 3 tile wide large oval using the banks could be fun.

I will have to do some more tests, but the higher you set the bank, the more of a chance you will have of the F1 front wing rubbing when entering the turn. If that bothers the F1 guys, you could probably build up under the track just before the turn to make a more smooth transition to prevent the rubbing. I will run some tests to see how high you can go with the standard setup, before needing to do modifications to the area ahead of the turn.

I have been talking with the guys from L.V. Ceasers Palace and things are looking good for a PN Racing World Championship at the hotel. I plan to possibly incorporate some of the banks into the finals track, if Philip wants them.

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Old 2005.03.04, 10:57 PM   #6
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I have been talking with the guys from L.V. Ceasers Palace and things are looking good for a PN Racing World Championship at the hotel. I plan to possibly incorporate some of the banks into the finals track, if Philip wants them.
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Old 2005.03.04, 11:01 PM   #7
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Old 2005.03.05, 12:18 AM   #8
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You, Philip, and the Mini-Z-Racing community are welcome. I'll be looking forward to meeting a few more happy racers soon. It will be like a big reunion with a few more people.
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Old 2005.03.05, 12:38 AM   #9
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I think the current design could be extended to handle a 3 tile wide. Making a 3 tile wide large oval using the banks could be fun.

I will have to do some more tests, but the higher you set the bank, the more of a chance you will have of the F1 front wing rubbing when entering the turn. If that bothers the F1 guys, you could probably build up under the track just before the turn to make a more smooth transition to prevent the rubbing. I will run some tests to see how high you can go with the standard setup, before needing to do modifications to the area ahead of the turn.

I have been talking with the guys from L.V. Ceasers Palace and things are looking good for a PN Racing World Championship at the hotel. I plan to possibly incorporate some of the banks into the finals track, if Philip wants them.
not all f1 front wings are at the same height...so I imagine that people will be breaking out the dremels to cut down the front posts and raising the wing up to accommodate...that may make some unhappy....(I already did it to mine and added extra degree positioning also...I donít know if it helps...but it might on a very fast wide corner...
anyway...imo I would like to see one bank corner at worlds cup...but thats all....
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Old 2005.03.05, 01:20 AM   #10
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Photos? Here is one sort of Exotic Cars at Caesars. Oh, I bet you wanted T to post a photo.
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Old 2005.03.05, 07:00 PM   #12
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Thanks for info rcp. Ive been waiting to buy accesories for my track. Some of these ideas sound pretty good.
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Old 2005.03.05, 11:22 PM   #13
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RCPMiniZ -

Let me chime in and add my kudos too. Looking forward to the new bank turn, high minitile rails and more blanks for my sets. Great product and excellent support.

BTW, F1 2005 regulations raised the height of the F1 front wing specs, so "theoretically", a little dremel work to raise the front wings would actually bring the existing cars up to the most recent specs!

I put on one of the CP miniraceway front wings and then bent it up so the car wouldn't "get stuck" under the rails when I hit the wall. It didn't occur to me just to raise the front wing which may work as a better solution without having to imbalance the car with the big front wing. I'll try it!
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Old 2005.03.06, 08:07 AM   #14
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I am working on an RCP adjustable bank turn design that I hope will be available as a kit, very shortly. The kit will assemble in minutes and will require no glue or tools. The user will have the ability to adjust the height of the bank in many increments. The bank will cover an entire 180 degree RCP turn and the tiles will attach to the assembly via side rail attachment PINS that come with the original RCP Track kit.

The design will work for both the standard and mini-tile RCP track kits. After working with the materials to create the bank, I figured that the same process could be used to make humps, jumps and table tops with the RCP track as well. I still have to do some final testing, but should have them available at the same time as the banks.

All my designs use materials readily accessible to most people, but the idea is to offer everything pre-cut/drilled in a kit form at a low cost that may be very close to the price someone would pay for the materials alone. I hope buying the materials in bulk; will help make the price of the kits very attractive to most. I only plan on a very small markup on the kits, since most people that buy them will be previous RCP customers. My goal is to offer a complete 180 degree adjustable bank for around $25 - $29. I am still negotiating the cost of the materials with my supplier and that will ultimately determine the final cost of the kits.

I will keep you updated on the progress.

I've been waiting for banked turns since I first bought my rcp-track over a year ago. The bottom line is you need to make fresh designs and bring them to market or your competitors will beat you to it. You may have current contracts that keep production humming along but resting on your laurels and taking your sweet time to offer new innovations is a quick way to make your product obsolete. Just my two cents.
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Old 2005.03.06, 09:23 AM   #15
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i would like to get some bank turns, a plateau (sp) bridge, small hills, many things that would make the track more 3 demensional. it would really add a new aspect to driving ability. i am currently debating on cutting up some of my fatigue mats and making my own banked turns
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