2009.09.25, 07:10 PM
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Honda Insight Racer!
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Why not just warm up your tires like real race cars do when their following the pace car? You know, steering left and right constantly? That provides friction which warms up the tires. That is why you see them waving back and forth a lot before the actual race. Wouldn't that work just the same at our scale? Me think's so.
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2009.09.26, 01:41 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Southern NH
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I think this is a cool little gadget for sure.... For the guys at the "PRO" level especially. I can see this being effective for Modified, where starting-off a race with warm tires can make a difference. Nowadays with guys wanting that extra 5-10 hundredths-of-a-second, every advantage counts.
I can relate to TJ's problem with the Atomic 8 degree tires. I've experienced some initial slippage with PN 15 and 20 degree front slicks, and PN 8 degree rears too, when starting off the first few laps - Then traction comes up. Sometimes it takes up to a minute to get the tire's real traction. I've scuffed front and rear slick tires with 400-800 grip sandpaper to get the tires to grip right at the start of a run until the tires get warm. I'm in for one of these Atomic Tire Warmers when they're available, granted the price isn't exorbitant. Atomic is usually good about pricing their products though.
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2009.09.26, 12:23 PM
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EMUracing
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
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Im not sure, but I think it will be priced around $60usd.
On Thursday it took about half a qualifying run before I felt like I wasnt driving on ice. Then I could push the car a lot more. There are certain solutions you can put on the tires before the race to give good initial grip, I dont like using them since they are not legal at large events. Which is why I am really interested in the tire warmers, since they only increase heat.
Marc, in warm up laps I try to throw the car around as much as I can to get heat into the tires. But the more that I do that, the more batteries I use... If you heat the tire to a temperature above what you would be in the race, by the time the race starts it should cool down to the running temperature and be pretty consistant throughout the race.
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2009.09.27, 05:21 PM
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Babstar
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Amsterdam, Holland
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I think its totaly rediculious and over the top.
I want one!
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2009.09.27, 07:41 PM
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Honda Insight Racer!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Colorado, USA!
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I'm not sure I see the point of this gadget on RCP track. I wouldn't think the surface of RCP would care about temperature. But, I'm not a professional so what do I know? Having over 6,000 posts doesn't mean I know squat!
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2009.09.28, 02:51 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles (Pasadena), CA, USA
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Quite the opposite, RCP is VERY sensitive to temperature changes. Every race I go to the traction changes noticeably between the qualifiers and the mains -- and this is just a span of a couple hours, a bit less sunlight, and maybe some more humidity coming in late at night.
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2010.08.07, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCal
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Did this product ever come out?
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2010.08.07, 03:40 PM
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EMUracing
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
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I havent seen or heard anything about it for a long time. I am very disappointed, I really liked the idea.
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2010.08.07, 08:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EMU
I havent seen or heard anything about it for a long time. I am very disappointed, I really liked the idea.
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lol get yourself one of them mini heaters from like home depot and just set you car on top of it... it'll probably be 75% cheaper then what atomic would have sold it for and do pretty much the same thing
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2010.08.08, 01:16 AM
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EMUracing
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
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That would also heat up the motor/chassis... I just want warm tires. lol.
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2010.08.08, 07:51 AM
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I have one in stock. A Muchmore unit I got from pchano a couple years ago.
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2010.11.29, 03:09 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 14
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It is in stock now at EGR Mart for US$ 50
egrracing.com
Last edited by mleemor60; 2010.11.29 at 03:18 PM.
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2010.11.29, 04:58 PM
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Pew-Pew!
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marc
Why not just warm up your tires like real race cars do when their following the pace car? You know, steering left and right constantly? That provides friction which warms up the tires. That is why you see them waving back and forth a lot before the actual race. Wouldn't that work just the same at our scale? Me think's so.
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Heh - I always wondered why they were doing that. I figured they were just trying to psych out the guy behind them.
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2010.11.29, 09:12 PM
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2010.12.07, 03:17 PM
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The name is Tim
Join Date: Aug 2008
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these tyre warmers are awsome. I initially have way too much grip and the grip levels stabilize during the run. with no warmers tires has to go about 1 min before grip level becomes good. now i push the car hard from the get go.
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