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Old 2008.05.14, 01:14 AM   #1
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Smoothest Knuckle w/o the play (slop)

Since the PN/RCP West Coast Challenge, my interest in racing has increased. As a result, I have been focusing on some things that would further improve the handling and performance of my mini-Z. Recently, I innovated a king pin that is pretty much the smoothest I have ever installed.

Not only is it very very smooth, in terms of the up and down motion, it also has very minimal play (slop). The best thing about these knuckles I innovated is that it does not require any lubrication whatsoever, nor does it require cleaning. It's literally self maintaining!

I've been running my knuckles for two nights in a row, and the knuckles are as smooth as when I first installed them. The two nights amount to at least 20+ runs with 900mah batteries.

For the record, I even won the stock class B main with it (45 laps total). This was my first time ever racing on stock class. I would have made A main, but my car flipped and unfortunately, there was no turn marshall. I lost by 4 seconds, which bumped me down to B main. Both heats; however, I was either 1st or 2nd.

It is proven that once the rubber dust builds up between the knuckles and the king pins, the handling drastically suffers. The knuckles I innovated pretty much performed the same, since I installed it.

The King Pins are super smooth, and definitely resists any build-up between the king pins and the knuckles, which then result in hours and hours of smooth front suspension action, without having the need to clean it. This means more time on the track, rather than on the pit cleaning out the rubber dust out of the knuckles.

If we get enough interests, the king pins will be available in 1, 1.5, and 2 degrees, and will come with special king pins as well.

If you are having steering knuckle issues, then this breakthrough may very well be the answer to your problem.
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Old 2008.05.14, 01:51 AM   #2
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on tuesday i spent all day working on my set up, as i raced stk last weekend and i let my mod pan car slip
so i got a bitchin set up and was able to reset the lap record from 8.03 to 7.96
the biggest problem i had was the knuckles kept binding due to dust.....
so im pretty happy with being able to dial in my pan car
neways....the point of this is.........
nml showed up with his smooth knuckles and let me try a set...i put them on an gave it a go....needless to say....7.86
they are butter smooth and require no lube....

I WILL BE PUTTING A SET ON EVERY CAR I BUILD FROM NOW ON
now we can all call him by his new name.......
NFL.....NO FRICTION LIMIT.....
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Old 2008.05.14, 02:09 AM   #3
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never really notice those build up on the pin/knuckle... I never had to clean it but now that you mentioned. I'll try to clean mine from time to time... although, I do have little slop on my atm knuckles .

nml, can you post pics? Thanks!
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Old 2008.05.14, 06:33 AM   #4
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Less time in the pits= more time on the track.

So these are knuckles and king pins?

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Old 2008.05.14, 11:08 AM   #5
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Interesting, my knuckle/kingpins feel somewhat smooth. I wonder how super smooth ones feel like. I would like to see what these knuckles look like NML.

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Old 2008.05.14, 06:09 PM   #6
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Less time in the pits= more time on the track.

So these are knuckles and king pins?

Kris
I don't want to speak for NML (or NFL) but I was informed recently that these come in a set with kingpins and knuckles.

These knuckles are the best of both worlds for me. In my experience, PN knuckles get rough quick but doesn't have much slop... Atomic knuckles stay smooth but it does have play. These NML knuckles are smoother than atomic without the slop.
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Old 2008.05.15, 12:19 AM   #7
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Thanks, Grant! Because I know how critical parts are for you, whenever you like something I make, it puts a smile on my face. Truthfully, I don't think I've met anyone who can tell right away if there is something not working right with the car. That's the true racer you, bro.

DJ Kyosho, yes, it will be a knuckle/king pin set.

TJ/Phea, actually, if you've felt how smooth a 3R knuckles are, these are noticeably smoother than those, with very minimal play.
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Old 2008.05.15, 12:56 AM   #8
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Interesting topic. What have you come up with to prevent play and dirt build up? Or is this a secret.
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Old 2008.05.15, 03:53 AM   #9
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Better than 3racing's Ti-nitride units? You must've managed to put some ball bearings between the knuckle and kingpin.

Definitely eager to see these if they really are an innovation.
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Old 2008.05.15, 03:57 AM   #10
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Have you made prototypes for both MA-010 and MR-02? In either case, the shop here should stock them. If they really work as claimed, these knuckles should figure with bearings as a basic must-have upgrade for the Z. It's really annoying for me to open and clean up the knuckles after every few runs. These knuckles would be a real godsend for a well sorted suspension.
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Old 2008.05.16, 06:19 PM   #11
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Don't think you can ever seal out dust without tight seals. You can probably lower the effects of dust with better design though. Bet you made the pin move instead. Will have to see how it works next week if you are at the track.
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Don't think you can ever seal out dust without tight seals. You can probably lower the effects of dust with better design though. Bet you made the pin move instead. Will have to see how it works next week if you are at the track.
I've been running the knuckles for quite a bit, and so far it's as smooth as when I first installed them. Before, the knuckles would get a little rough and it creates resistance on the up and down action, which hampered the handling.
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Old 2008.05.19, 04:30 PM   #13
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NML if you produce them put me down for two sets of 1.5 thanks!
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I was finally able to drive the pan car last saturday with these knuckles. First thing I noticed was the better steering response. I was able to lower my best time about .2 seconds without changing anything else. After running the whole day, the knuckles are still very smooth.
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how much would these sell for?
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