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Old 2020.05.12, 04:30 PM   #1
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Mini Z 4x4

Anyone lucky enough to get one of these?

Two questions:

1. Slipper clutch looks interesting, but no way to adjust it seemingly. I have a feeling the spring will wear fast. How do they hold up?

2. Did Kyosho ever take care of the reverse or does it still require a full stop? I ask because batteries are high and in the front and stopping on an incline is probably a flip. I picked up a FWD type r last year and if I recall correctly a full stop was still required for reverse.

We've been wanting an overland 4x4 for about the last 10 years lol. This looks great but I worry about it being more of a basher a la the xmod evolution truck than an actual crawler.

4th gen Toyota pickups are great classics (my first vehicle was a 4th gen longbed) and this being a hilux in almost the same color was a no brainer.
Pre-ordered one from Amain yesterday as they had a free ship and $15 off. Hopefully they get in stock soon.

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Old 2020.05.13, 10:17 AM   #2
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No deliveries from KYO USA to all of my local LHS, I know of 1 that has them. I want one out of sheer curiosity as crawling really isnít my thing. I loved Overlands but like most, wished they were 4wd. Iím fine with being patient, no need for me to rush to buy one but will end up with one. Canít avoid the temptation to paint bodies as well . Really want to get some Dakar liveryís done.
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Old 2020.05.14, 12:06 AM   #3
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That's actually pretty cool. Regular painting or airbrush?

These 4x4 bodies are supposed to be sturdier so maybe they will be the thickness of the glosscoat days as opposed to fine hand polish crap.

Horizon told me they were getting them in mid month so hopefully shops will get them in sometime this week or next, but again Amain has coupons and free shipping right now.

Kind of wish they went with worm gears and some slower options but this seems like a weird hybrid of racing and crawling. If I recall kyosho already has some sort of awd buggy for racing when I left a few years back...

If anything the hilux will look pretty nice on my desk or one of my displays.

Not expecting much, but we'll see how the slip diff works when I get it in.
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Old 2020.05.14, 10:09 AM   #4
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From the FB reviews, the gearing seems to be getting highly marks, as well as speed and controllability of speed.
Lots of complaints about battery choice but thatís to be expected for Mini-Z. I donít mind really, I personally prefer cells that donít have the potential to Burma my house down and require storage and use of specialized fire-resistant containment.
Crawlers note the high CG particularly with the 4Runner due to spare tire and batteries. Iím not part of the crawler community so not really a concern for me as I really just wanted a capable 4wd Overland really.

The 4Runner chop jobs being shown on FB are intriguing as well, making pickups out of them which Iím sure also helps with CG. Just so much modding potential with these, that aspect that I enjoyed so much with Overlands. No need to work in brass anymore though . So much easier to work with 3d printing like Brian Swayney who is making all kinds of scale gear.
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Old 2020.05.14, 03:39 PM   #5
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I had a friend who called the LHS, which doesn't carry much K items, but they happened to get some on the initial order a few weeks back. Luckily the LHS was doing phone orders and curbside pickups, so my friend also got one (Red Toyota)) for me and the Silver Toyota for his son. It's been a great addition to my other mini-z vehicles. So far it's been fairly durable, even though i've been sharing it with a Kindergardener. After quite a bit of abuse from younger drivers, a front steering knuckle eventially broke, but it still works in 3wheel-drive Just an $6 part to repair.

It's definately more of a crawler, than a bash vehicle like the mini-z Monster, or Overland, and much, much more capable on outdoor terrain. I've taken it up fairly steep hard packed dirt trails and was amazed how easily it was able to go up, as well as descend. To the point about the AAA batts up front, there will be some rolls once you get past a certain degree of incline, but i don't notice it being a major issue on the outside terrain i've been on so far. The stock gearing at 10t, like Arch said works very well out of the box, and braking down inclines has actually worked fine for me, but most of the time the gearing is such that you can just ease off to creep slowly.

The slipper seems to being doing it's job for me so far. Looks like there's a little tear-down to get to the slipper nut to loosen/tighten, but have had no need to wrench on this yet.

Body is very durable, and the new clip system works great after you get used to it. My body. I ended up taking the back tire/mount off, and I like the handling better with the extra weight removed. I may further modify the canopy to a pickup, but still thinking thru the process so I don't butcher it.

I saw they added two more colors to the Suzuki Jimny model, so hopefully well see some more Toyota colors, and new body offerings in the coming months.
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Old 2020.05.15, 12:11 AM   #6
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Brass knuckles wouldn't be too bad to keep the weight a little on wheels. A little reinforcement from them is a plus as well. Hopefully some oil shocks soon. I thought I saw a few brass pieces on some japanese sites already scouring for some old ascs. These ebay prices on ascs are unbelievable lol.

Bz, your review is making the wait even tougher lol. Thanks for the input. I can't wait to fully tear it down and see how the thing works. I've seen some vids on sites and it looks like the slipper hinders climbing on the rears. I may try to put another spring in the slipper for some dual action lol or at the least to make it grip more. I'm hoping they get some 80's truck ascs. Wouldn't mind a 4runner either.

****** seems to have them in stock, but they don't ship overseas right now (pick up only) because of the craziness going on. Being in where Zs are made, ****** usually gets things around two-three weeks ahead of US in the past, so hopefully we see them by the end of the month here.

With how things are who knows.
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