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Old 2002.08.04, 11:49 PM   #1
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review: kyosho toe-in steering plates

well, the LHS suprised me with some replacement steering plates available for the F1. they were red colored plastic tie rods and came in a set of three with -0.2, -0.4, and -0.6 settings.

at $7.99, why not? after installing the -0.2s i found it made an immediate difference in straight line stability. naturally this is expected when you have toe-in but you'll quickly learn to appreciate the difference it trully makes once installed. Of course , adjusting the steering trim is needful at the onset but once completed you'll have an F1 that wants to track almost instintively in a more direct line especially when entering into and during a long straight. no more struggling to keep it straight cause it almost does it for you. what a wonderful feeling.

For those unfamiliar with toe-in, basically it's where the front of a wheel is angled toward the centerline of the car. so for example, when looking from the top of an F1, the front wheels would be pointed slightly inward. With this arrangement, the wheels essentially oppose each other in moving toward the vehicle's center resulting in a much straighter tracking.

Toe-in does have it's negative side nameley increased tire wear and decreased turning radius (understeer). I'll skip the tire wear issue in this review. With the front (or toe) of the wheels adjusted inward, understeer is created due to the decreased angle of the 'inside' wheel (depending on which way you're heading) when facing outward. Hope that makes sense. anyway, basically with toe-in, you'll have to adjust when approaching tighter corners due to the understeer.

At the LHS, i'm limited to a 25 foot x 14 foot carpet track in layed with 1" pvc pipes. With the MZR.com motor, i had to really adjust to a new driving line on each of the narrower corners. As such, i didn't bother trying out the -0.4 and -0.6 plates since i knew it would've made turning that much more challenging within the confines of the track.

i would recommend getting some toe-in steering plates (tie-rods) to anyone who might be struggling with keeping your car in a straight line. Though it will affect turning radius, it's well worth the trade off having struggle free steering in the straights.



i welcome any comments, critiques or additions to my review.
thank you for your time.


Cheers.


MiniZ. what's the story on those alloy tie rods (and knuckle arms)? i'm bound to break these plastic replacements eventually.

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Old 2002.08.05, 09:51 PM   #2
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You are right West.F1, these toe-in tie rods are a must have. I bought these for my 2 mz Modena and GT3 and the difference is huge. No more wandering in the straights, the cars go from point a to b like an arrow There is a drag effect I guess if you use the 0.6 making the top speed decrease a bit so just take the 0.4 wich is a good compromise.
I dont think the alloy are worth the money, I am almost sure the plastic red ones are as durable as the original.
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Old 2002.08.05, 10:21 PM   #3
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thanks fovea3d.

i've been planning on getting the alloys because my eratic driving style has led me to replace three of them so far not to mention a few knuckle arms. however hitting the pipes might be minimized now that i'm tracking straighter.


(you have an F1 Fovea3d? just curious)
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Old 2002.08.05, 10:27 PM   #4
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Oups I forgot you where running a F1. The wheels are less exposed on my standard mini-z racer. You should go for the alloys
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Old 2002.08.08, 02:47 AM   #5
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hey west, do you have the part # for the F1 toe in replacement plates?
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Old 2002.08.08, 06:35 AM   #6
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West.F1! Nice work done again !!
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Old 2002.08.08, 05:39 PM   #7
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always a pleasure to do these with more to come.

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Kyosho tie rod set is #MFW07
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