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Old 2018.11.30, 03:17 PM   #31
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I find myself flip flopping between brushed and brushless almost every race. Some tracks I prefer brushless, others I prefer brushed. I view the evo as an option to make the choice in race day, and not need to have a second car setup with an alternative drive system.

If I needed to make a decision between brushed and brushless for stock class, I would choose brushed. It is simpler, and has a better feel for power delivery and more drag brake. I typically prefer brushless on carpet, and brushed on rcp.

Japan has a relatively closed RC ecosystem. They do not really have access to many of the Chinese aftermarket that we have. At least not at a competitive price. This leaves kyosho in control of the mini-z market, and limited access to competitors.

Kyosho doesn't design anything with the US or EU market in mind, we just get the scraps that the Japanese market passes on more or less.

The Evo is their flagship model, however this is where I start to scratch my head. They really could and should have incorporated a sensored brushless system, and developed a 3500kv class motor to compete head to head with their stock motor. The 5600kv is x-speed power, and would cover the super stock class. This current motors looks to have an aluminum sleeve, but I assume that the motor is the same motor we currently have in the evo. The 12000kv motor that they have is simply too fast, and performs like an on/off switch. I don't see any reason why I would install it in one of my cars.

According to the picture on their site, it looks like KO is back making the main electronics. I just fear that this is too little product for too much price.

I would only see myself use this for a stock or pro stock class, as modified there are considerably better options from my perspective in this scale. The fancies should be relegated to modified or open classes. Perhaps a pro stock class with minimum weight limits and motor options.

Arch, I agree about restricting the evo to common parts in the stock classes. I just wanted to bring that up as soon as I noticed it. From what I can tell, the differential is the only part that would need to be swapped out along with motor.

I would gladly prefer a gear diff if it would bring the pricing more in line with the current VE-Pro offering.
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Old 2018.11.30, 06:17 PM   #32
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Well once the manual/parts diagram is up I'll see what it would take to convert an existing MR03 to the new chassis with your choice of Rx.

Hopefully a fair bit of parts are the same. Looks like it.

Only issue would be the new ESC... knowing Kyosho it won't be cheap.

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EDIT: Oops, they are up already. Only a few parts changed:


MZ601 - Main Unit Set (MR03EVO) (ESC, Servo and Pot)
MZ602 - Receiver Cover Set (MR03EVO)

Wow that's it. Except for the Receiver needed. So only change of the car itself is:

MZW436 Ball Differential Set II

Everything else is the same as a MR-03 (VE).

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