2006.11.23, 08:11 PM
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did you get around to trying to boil them?
other than that, i don't know of any fix if you want to continue using the classic wheels.
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2006.11.23, 09:03 PM
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yes, it's a boxer
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Location: Seaville, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marc
Nice wheels, but some how they don't look like they belong to that car. Look out of place if you ask me. I'd like to see some re-painted street-versions of this car. Would also love to see a slope-nose version. That would be a sweet AutoScale. A slope nose 911 Turbo.
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slant nose autoscale...only you would say that
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2006.11.23, 09:46 PM
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#48
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i heart oversteer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Charlottesville, Va.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arch2b
did you get around to trying to boil them?
other than that, i don't know of any fix if you want to continue using the classic wheels.
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I boiled them, did nada. Next step is to try the WD40 thing. I also read a couple other things
Water Proofing Spray for tents can return rubber back to a more pliable consistancy. http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/tips/rubbersoftener.htm
Lighter Fluid the HO slot car folks supposedly use this to soften tires.
http://www.hoslotcarracing.com/Chemistry.html
Paint Thinner just read something about that as well...it was a complaint on what can be done to prevent this on weather proofing silicone.
So I have some expieramenting to do. And god knows I have enough stock tires to test this on. If anyone else wants to try it out. Go for it. Id love to see others results.
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2006.11.23, 10:24 PM
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yes, it's a boxer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bnwhtlw
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indeed. this is old school and does work BUT, i think it works on real rubber tires, i am not sure about these mzr stock tires.
i have no clue if this applies, but when i was small my uncle used to put glycerine on tires on collectible die cast cars he'd restore to make the tires less prone to cracking when putting them back on wheels.
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2006.11.24, 12:50 AM
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#50
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Le Zèdeur
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Germany
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@machine - I just can recommend driving the classic style bodies in a separate category where pretty much nothing besides tires and h-bar is allowed to be modified
They look so good on the track and the view of the dynamics of these cars is so different - it's a lot of fun.
We're racing now for a little more than one year in this classic category in the CRC (Germany) and all the racers love it, because it's different kind of driving...
As all of the drivers here own a Porsche body we've decided to setup a Porsche Cup but this time as an "open class" - the 86 mm itself will be the limitation I'll let you know, how it worked out ...
Cheers,
Jo
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2007.01.27, 12:33 AM
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i heart oversteer
Join Date: Jul 2006
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So Im going to bring this thread back cuz I am still searching for a cure for hard tires.
what i have tried:
Boiling - no change
Lighter Fluid (naptha) - no change
WD40 - No Change
I have looked everywhere trying to find 17mm ID soft rubber tires...I cant find any. Anyone have any insight here?
Someone needs to make some 20 degree classic tires.
My next idea (or rather spoons) is to make a 3mm spacer something that doesnt look like total ass. Anyway...thoughts? Comments?
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2007.01.27, 05:24 AM
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Master of Thrash
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Arkansas
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The ring idea isn't a bad one, just have to figure out how constant the tolerance is from one classic wheel to another. I am sure there are variations there, the rings fit tight on some and loose on others. If Kyosho packaged something like that I am sure those would sell.
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2007.01.27, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bnwhtlw
My next idea (or rather spoons) is to make a 3mm spacer something that doesnt look like total ass. Anyway...thoughts? Comments?
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You may find this is a cheap trick but it works enough for me. I too prefer to use the classic rims on "classics".
I use normal (50°) tires from autoscales as first layer or "spacer", even better, I have found out that AWD or Atomic tires are a tighter fit on the classic rims as first layer. I simply put 10° ATM rear and 30° ATM front as second layer (my setup for carpet with all my chassis). It will require double sided tape between the 2 layers of tires in front though, but this is not necessary for wide tires. I am not sure it will hold on RCP, but works perfect on carpet, you can not tell the difference in grip with low profile rims
Tires1
Tires2
Tires3
Last edited by Fovea3d; 2007.01.27 at 11:33 AM.
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2007.01.27, 01:41 PM
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#54
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i heart oversteer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fovea3d
You may find this is a cheap trick but it works enough for me. I too prefer to use the classic rims on "classics".
I use normal (50°) tires from autoscales as first layer or "spacer", even better, I have found out that AWD or Atomic tires are a tighter fit on the classic rims as first layer. I simply put 10° ATM rear and 30° ATM front as second layer (my setup for carpet with all my chassis). It will require double sided tape between the 2 layers of tires in front though, but this is not necessary for wide tires. I am not sure it will hold on RCP, but works perfect on carpet, you can not tell the difference in grip with low profile rims
Tires1
Tires2
Tires3
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You know I tried that, but it looked terrible and worked worse...but maybe it was my choice of tires or something. Im gonna try it again and see how it goes. Thanx for the tip. Based on the look of yours, this may be the ticket.
I had another thought this morning. If I had a tire turner I could take the stock tires and turn them down to 20mm so its something similar to what your doing...thanx for the pics though!!!
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2007.01.27, 06:26 PM
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that's a cool tire setup on the small rims. I was wondering how would we ever use the rims like the 934, Jota, and the Shelby Cobra/Daytonas. I have the Muira/Jota and love the love the body, but no tire choice is a down side since the car doesn't look as good with modern wheels.
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2007.01.28, 12:09 AM
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i heart oversteer
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Ok did it tonight and worked well. So whats the thinnest tire available?
Last edited by bnwhtlw; 2007.01.28 at 12:19 AM.
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2007.01.28, 01:57 AM
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Le Zèdeur
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Germany
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At the CRC we are about to produce some alloy rings for our own purpose as we also like the 18,5mm rims. Other solutions (also the tire double-decker) doesn't work with ATM Stock or faster motors ...
Cheers,
Jo
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2007.03.15, 12:42 PM
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ByronF1
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Hi, I recently was trying this configuration with a Porshe 934, but I put MR02 chassis with the MR015 conversion from PN, back i put +3 GPM 8, front +1 Kyosho 30, +1 camber, stock tie rod, the purple front spring from PN hardest ones... but I experiment too much Oversteer, and sometimes rollup, I put it a damper plate..., T-bar is medium Atomic, the diferential is stock, it comes better but not enough, I think I need more rear traction...
I run on a RCP track...
I always had MM not RM...
What do you sugest?
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Last edited by ByronF1; 2007.03.15 at 01:05 PM.
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