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Old 2014.03.03, 10:11 PM   #31
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Just did another test session, went to stiffer front springs. The front end is now insanely precise and smooth, with tons of grip. The tradeoff being I can kick the back end out now or even have it dig in on high speed corners. If it digs in the cars goes flying. This is something that never happened with the original front end. I think my from sway bar was really taming down the front end which helped in some ways. In a real car I think I'd prefer a little oversteer, in an RC car I generally prefer just a hint of understeer. So now I either try to get more grip out of the back end or try to take some away from the front.

The best lap I did matched the lap time to did with the old chassis to one hundredth of a second. However the original car was still more forgiving. It will get better I am sure, I expect a track record with it eventually.
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Old 2014.03.03, 11:13 PM   #32
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Thanks for update. I slowly have started testing mine.
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Old 2014.03.16, 10:38 PM   #33
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Ran the MA020 at the club for the first time today. It worked scary well. The club track has slightly less grip them my home track and it worked out great. The back end never dug in, just did some very small hops at times. All in all it was the best handling car I have driven in a very long time. The lap times confirmed its performance. It can always be improved but it will be very small changes as I don't want to risk making it worse.
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Old 2014.04.05, 03:58 PM   #34
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Finally received the MA020 specific front spring kit, part # MDW201. They are about 0.5mm longer then a standard MR03 spring and the range goes from stiff to very soft - much softer then the standard MR03 spring kit. Probably something closer to the mr03 short/soft kit.

Can't say I'm too impressed with the length, I was already using the mr03 short/soft spring kit in my ma020 and thought they were still a little long for how low I like to run the car, the official ma020 springs would add a full 1mm, too much for this kid!
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Old 2014.05.24, 08:31 PM   #35
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I am using the wide lower plate for my newly converted MA020. I shared the same finding that the lower plate is a bit "soft", it is easily tweaked. My problem is when i put some spacers at the bottom of knuckle to reduce the ride height of the car, the lower leg of knuckle will easily come out from the lower plate's pivot ball under strong crush. The reasons are:

1. The lower plate tweaked, thus knuckle leg easily comes out from pivot ball.

2. There is no down stop can be adjusted, knuckle move up too much.
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Old 2014.09.25, 04:39 PM   #36
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Hi gents,

I have an MA 010, and like cowboysir was never all that happy with it, although I did give it the old college try. I went ahead and ordered all the parts listed in the first post here to go to the new chassis and front end.

Does anyone know what Kyosho parts are necessary to go from the standard MA010 rear suspension to the DWS as used on the 015\020 to make the upgrade complete?

Perusing the Kenon site gives:

MDW100-02 - Kyosho Mini-Z AWD DWS Rear Chassis Set
MDW100-05 - Kyosho Mini-Z AWD DWS Upper Rod & Suspension Shaft Set

It doesn't look like that's everything though. Is there any all in one upgrade set for the DWS?

Thanks for the any help,

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Old 2014.09.25, 09:27 PM   #37
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The full DWS kit is part # MDW100

However it was produced before Kyosho created the wide rear end option. If you also want that you'd need MD205 - long CVDs and MDW100-07 - long a-arms.
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Old 2014.09.26, 12:44 PM   #38
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Thanks for the info TheSteve!

I had the SAS and never had much success with it. It was kind of sloppy and just didn't seem to work that well. I hope Kyosho's produced something a little tighter, we shall see.

I looked here for info on it, but apart from this thread about the DWS, (which didn't contain any real conclusions about it), there wasn't much to be found.

Well, we shall see, and it will be fun to tinker with at least...

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