2010.02.12, 01:03 AM
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#31
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Location: makati, philippines
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not really... thank God for cut and paste... (post #12)
it's really old (circa 2004) and needs to be updated... there have been lots of bodys produced since then...
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here's the text of the link i supplied above... taken from a h.k. mini-z site... all reviews made by tango.... enjoy...
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Should be a bit late to give a post about the above topic, but still, such information is needed if the player is a serious racer. But, only on running characters, not including it's durable or not, it's good look or not...
First divide in 2 groups, Normal wheelbase & Wide wheelbase.
1. Normal Wheelbase:
1.1 R34 GTR V spec--
Adv: Can run quite stable among tracks, especially those fast tracks with fast corners.
Dis: Not enough response in sharp turn or slow corners.
1.2 Lancer Evolution 6.5--
Adv: Over all control is excellent, have very good steering response on any corners
Dis: Easy go up-side-down especially on sharp corner & extreme fast corners, due to high Center-of-Gravity.
1.3 Impreza WRX STi R--
Adv, Quite similiar to Lancer, but not as good steering response as Lancer.
Dis: Understeer in fast corner. Also like Lancer, easy go up-side-down while going into extreme fast corners.
1.4 Viper GTS-R--
Adv: As stable as R34 GTR, but more steering response on sharp corners
Dis: Among normal wheelbase, the running characterisitcs is nearly perfect.
1.5 S2000--
Adv: Good cornering response, stable in straight, too.
Dis: Quite easy to have oversteer or 4 wheel drift, not enough downforce in the rear.
1.6 Audi TT--
Adv: Very good cornering response
Dis: Too good steering, very easy to spin.
1.7 Porsche 996 GT3--
Adv: Good cornering, stable straight.
Dis: As Viper, nearly perfect.
1.8 Tureno Sprinter AE86--
Adv: Good cornering
Dis: Easy oversteer, not stable enough in fast corner, not enough downforce at the rear.
1.9 RX7 FC7 Infini III--
Adv: Good Cornering, stable in straight
Dis: Oversteer at fast corners, not enough downforce
1.10 Altezza 280 T--
Adv: Stable straight, stable corner
Dis: Oversteer in fast corner, easy to turn up-side-down in fast corner, too.
1.11 KPGC 10 GTR Racing--
Adv: Good cornering, stable straight.
Dis: Easy turn-up-down in fast corners. Understeer in fast corner, too.
1.12 BMW Z8--
Adv: Stable corner, stable straight
Dis: Oversteer in hi-speed corner. Not enough downforce at rear.
1.13 Vitz 1.5 RS--
Adv: Very good cornering.
Dis: Easy turn up-side-down due to super high location of Center-of-Gravity. Oversteer in fast corner, too.
1.14 VW New Beetle--
Adv: Good cornering.
Dis: A bit like Vitz, but not as easy turn up-side-down as Vitz.
1.15 Lancia Stratos--
Adv: Very good steering response, very stable at most time
Dis: Too nervous when going into sharp turn after hi-speed section.
1.16 Honda Fit--
Adv: Light weight & good cornering
Dis: As Vitz
1.17 FD7 RX7--
Adv: Very stable & very good cornering
Dis: Weak front spoiler, crack easily after crash.
1.18 206--
Adv: Very good cornering with LWB & high mount
Dis: Need some modify to avoid scratching the front fender while lowered ride height. And, easy to turn up-side down in hi speed corners.
2. Wide wheelbase
2.1 Benz CLK DTM Touring Car--
Adv: Very Stable.
Dis: Quite a understeer shell, espcially in those sharp corners after hi-speed section. Also will turn up-side-down in fast corners.
2.2 NSX JGTC
Adv: Very good steering response. Stable straight ways.
Dis: Easy oversteer or 4 wheel drift in sharp corners after hi-sped section.
2.3 Ferrari 360 Modena--
Adv: Very good steering response. Stable straight ways.
Dis. Easy oversteer in fast corner, not enough downforce.
2.4 Ferrari 355--
Adv: Very good cornering, stable.
Dis: Need to have modification for installation of rear & roll shocks.
2.5 Ferrari F40--
Adv: Stable, good cornering
Dis: A lot of shell modification work to make the shell work on the car.
2.6 JGTC NSX 2002--
Adv: Very stable, Very good cornering
Dis: Need to modifiy the front shell mount to avoid front wheel from touching the fender.
But, don't forget this is for reference only, some modification can made on the shells in order cure the weakness.
2.7 JGTC Supra
Adv: Stable as benz, fast cornering as NSX
Dis: Need to modifiy the rear diffuser to avoid touching motor mount.
2.8 Corvette C5R
Adv: Super good cornering, Super stable
Dis: Nil, can't find at the moment.
2.9 JGTC GTR
Adv: Very stable
Dis: A bit push compare with NSX, but sharper the CLK DTM. Need to lift up L-clip & front mount a little bit to avoid rubbing the fender & rear damper.
Cheers!!
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2010.02.12, 04:27 AM
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#32
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Location: Los Angeles (Pasadena), CA, USA
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Thanks for the info, herman, I must've missed it on my quick glimpse through...
I guess the trouble with interpreting this guy's results is that 1) there was no 90mm or 94mm Mid-Mount system yet, so the cars were either RM or HM; and 2) the speeds they race at on Ozite are completely different to the speeds we race at on RCP, so the relative handling characteristics will be completely changed (an aggressive body at low speeds often becomes unstable at high speeds, and a sluggish one at low speeds is better at higher speeds).
I'll take the man's word for it, but with some judgment regarding certain bodies' transition from Ozite to RCP. For example, The R34 GT-R street version is considered a decent body on Ozite but the higher grip of RCP makes it a traction-roll monster. Certain things like that will change the "race-worthiness" of a body on different surfaces, and since this Wiki is geared towards the RCP crowd here in America (does anyone have any objections?), the guide should reflect that.
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2010.02.14, 10:17 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: makati, philippines
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hmm... good point... as review was done by a h.k. driver racing on a carpet/ozite like surface...
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2010.02.19, 11:59 AM
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#34
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by color01
I'm using Ben Lee's Mini-Z Guide when I can't find the data from Kyosho's website itself.
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B, can't recall if we've already discussed this, but, I know I mentioned what we were doing to benmlee in the past and it sounded like he might be interested in helping - give him a shout for me if you could?
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