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Old 2010.06.08, 12:25 AM   #1
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PNWC Modified motor clarification

I would like some clarification of what is permitted for the modified class motors. This is directed towards PN, but if there are motor wizzes that can answer any of the compatability questions, please do.

There are no readily available 33t or 35t modified motors on Kenon. How soon will they be restocked, or are they discontinued? Kenon currently has only two motors available, AWDIII and 70t. Will there be any more Speedy 07BB or other motors available?

Will the modified armatures fit in a Speedy 07bb can? Are there any newer style cans that will be available anytime soon?

Do the 37t and 38t armatures fit the 33/35t cans without a problem? I would like to use the newer type can, because I feel that the brushes mate the comm better, without moving. Can I use a newer endbell on the old Speedy can?

Can the armature be rewound? Can a custom motor be built using PN can/armature/comm/brush? In the rules it states that armature must be used, but nothing about using the original winding, which is why I want the clarification.

Thank you for your time.
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Old 2010.06.09, 02:00 AM   #2
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as the rule states:
Modified Class can be use any model of the PN Racing motor, legal modify the brushes, magnet, cut the cam head, but you MUST be use PN Racing motor can, motor cover and armature.

re winding of the armature is NOT allowed
you CAN use any magnets
you CAN use any brushes
you CAN Cut the com

on a side note 33t and 35t armatures are available as well as the neo magnet cans
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Old 2010.06.09, 09:59 AM   #3
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EMU here is a link that leads to all of the PN motor parts:

http://www.rckenon.com/public_html/s...hp?cPath=62_71
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Old 2010.06.09, 12:04 PM   #4
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Will there be any more Speedy 07BB or other motors available?
Did you see new motors added to Kenon site yesterday? New 50T and 80T. My guess is the "Speedy" series will be discontinued. If you are coming to the PN race in Myrtle Beach, I should be able to provide you with what you need.
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Old 2010.06.09, 12:05 PM   #5
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i built a motor for one of the german guys last year in spain, speedy AWD III arm in a bb non neo can and +5deg timing
that motor with a 9t pinion (or the closest 64p setup) flew!!
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Old 2010.06.09, 12:18 PM   #6
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The issue that I have, is that the gearing for the F1 is much different than the gearing for the other 2wd cars. The wheels are bigger, causing more rollout. I have been running a 7/46 combo on a 36000rpm motor and it is geared well. If I go with the 35t armature in a Neo can, thats roughly 45000rpm, it will be geared too high. 64p will be out of the question, since it there are no low ratios. Perhaps, if a larger spur were availabe, it may help. But at the same time, there is a limit with the motormounts as well.

From what I know 37 and 38t armatures are not compatable with the newer cans. So, I have to figure out a few things, and do some trial and error. Will the 37 and 38t armatures work in the AnimaII can?

Marwan, I cant make the trip this time

Matt, thats along the lines of what I was thinking... Essentially make as similar of a motor to the Atomic Stock-BB as I can
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Old 2010.06.09, 02:41 PM   #7
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currently running 11/53 on my f1 with either pn70t or similar spec to the above.
i did see that pn now have 60t and 50t versions of the bushing motor,one of these with a bb can should give similar response to an x-speed.
just about to order some in for testing on the dyno
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I thought it was 80t and 50t... I was thinking about trying the 50t.
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Old 2010.06.09, 04:01 PM   #9
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It is 50T.
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Old 2010.06.09, 04:08 PM   #10
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oops 80t and 50t
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Anybody got specs of the 80 and 50t motors?
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Old 2010.06.30, 08:19 PM   #12
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Anybody got specs of the 80 and 50t motors?
From a German website with all the new PN series motors:

http://www.srcc-shop.de/miniz-motore...g-c-87_93.html


80T - 18000 RPM
70T - 22000 RPM (new version)
50T - 32000 RPM
50T BB - ?
43T BB - 38000 RPM - FET upgrade required
39T BB - 39000 RPM - " " "
33T BB - 42000 RPM - " " "
32T BB - 43000 RPM - " " "

Check out the site for the part numbers. Some are in stock & others are coming in the next few weeks.

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Sorry guys, all the deatils Spec Sheet will be arrive Friday, then I will post all infomation, all Germany post RPM is base sample testing before.
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And the NEW Modified Class motors rule will be open for allowed hand wound, Must be use PN Motor Stuff, Motor Case, Brush, Armautre, Comm Head, except wire.
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Thanks for the info Philip. I tried a couple of the new modified motors and am impressed!!!
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