2011.12.27, 10:15 PM
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The tx in the video is futaba
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2011.12.27, 10:44 PM
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Brushless?
Hmm... I was not going to come back to Mini-Z until they went brushless. My guess it is only a matter of time before there are Brushless Z Readysets... if not, it shouldnt be too hard to convert the electronics over.
If they get a Harley Davidson license, and sell a few Harley style bikes... they will sell like crazy in the USA.
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2011.12.27, 11:51 PM
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I figured if it was a bike it would have to be brushless, and I also agree that this would have to be the next step for anything they would attempt in the future for the four wheeled lineup. Now... bigger question would be... will it be a brushless system that can be retrofitted into say, an MR02 chassis?... fitted into a buggy? I hope Kyosho takes that into account when they finally take that next big step.
Kinda bummed I can't use a Helios with this little 2 wheeler... but there's always someone on here willing to hack the gear to try and get something to work outside of it's original design intent.
One more thought... I feel these bikes will redefine the term "clean racing". It seems like it's going to be a real challenge to navigate these in traffic.
Will the rules allow the riders to be glued on or do we keep it scale authentic and make the marshalls pick the bodies up off the track and try to get them back on the bikes before getting them going again?
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2011.12.28, 09:29 AM
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MBMZR
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2011.12.28, 10:05 AM
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nice video. it looks very simple to control and runs smoothly at slow speeds.
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2011.12.28, 10:48 AM
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Just to confirm, I went back and checked my f******k page. The blog is from Zino Russia.
Looks awesome. I can't wait.
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2011.12.28, 03:41 PM
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Hi guys!
Indeed this little moto looks pretty nice. But for me, and if you read carefully, the motor will be a coreless.
The brushless will be for the e-gyro. That's what we hear in the video. Basically, the e-gyro is a kind of wheighted wheel spinning inside the rear wheel. This means that even at low speed, the moto will have enough gyroscopic effect (what make a bike or bicycle able to keep straight when moving) to stay on its wheel. Just what we see in the video.
That's indeed pretty cool cause on our thight track, I can surely imagine the work for the marshall if they need to launch back every moto running a little too slow after a turn.
The part I'm really scared about will be the radio compatibility. If I had to buy a eurus to use this little boy I'm afraid I simply won't buy it. My EX-1 UR is the radio I use for all my cars and I don't want to buy another high-end radio just for this bike.
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2011.12.28, 04:11 PM
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will this be able to go in reverse? iv never tried an r/c moto so idk if they even go in reverse to begin with.
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2011.12.28, 04:41 PM
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i'm afraid i'm with pierro, not getting another radio just for this bike. as cool as it is, not worth the the added cost/frustration for me.
if it's anything like the buggy, sales will be disappointing as well. there is a lot of online love for them but this has not translated to sales which is disappointing. i'm inclined to believe the bike will be no different, or worse if on a separate 2.4 system.
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2011.12.28, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Q t
will this be able to go in reverse? iv never tried an r/c moto so idk if they even go in reverse to begin with.
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No they dont. It's forward and brake only.
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2011.12.28, 04:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arch2b
if it's anything like the buggy, sales will be disappointing as well. there is a lot of online love for them but this has not translated to sales which is disappointing. i'm inclined to believe the bike will be no different, or worse if on a separate 2.4 system.
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I know its off topic, but are the buggy sales really that slow?
Just got back from the track, and we have so much fun racing these buggy's. 5 cars on track tonight. Hard to imagine them not to be a hit.
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2011.12.28, 05:18 PM
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yes, sales have been very slow. by the time kusa got their order, there were significantly more available than thought and we attribute this to stores cutting back orders after pre-order sales fell flat. i'm not saying all stores didn't sell through them, the CA scene around PN is not reflective of the market as a whole. i'm sure they managed to sell through a fair number given their location, facility, density of drivers, proximity to kusa, etc. my local hobby shop decided not to even carry them. they have a few mini-z but in general, hobby shops don't even carry mini-z. if we didn't race there, i know for a fact they wouldn't carry mini-z.
sorry for continued off topic.
back to moto... anyone see leaks of unpainted shells? seeing everyone with the same model is a little blah.
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2011.12.28, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arch2b
i'm afraid i'm with pierro, not getting another radio just for this bike. as cool as it is, not worth the the added cost/frustration for me.
if it's anything like the buggy, sales will be disappointing as well. there is a lot of online love for them but this has not translated to sales which is disappointing. i'm inclined to believe the bike will be no different, or worse if on a separate 2.4 system.
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You feeling ok? That has got to be the most bummed out post you've ever put on here.
I too think it's kinda lame to go tossing away a bunch of Kyosho fans who already have the Helios... but the bike is pretty inspiring to me if only because there is nothing else like it out there.
The brushless is for the gyro?... I would've thought the coreless was running it. (weird)
Let's hope it doesn't go the way of the Lit, as I'm sure some might even say... let's hope it doesn't go the way of the DNano. Some may even include the MA010 or the F1 in that little group of disappearing small scalers. They are all great ideas but it for me it seems smarter to invest in what the majority are running, especially when money is as tight as it is now.
I say that the plain ol' Mini-Z Racer is akin to the porridge Goldilocks chose. Not too big, not too small, controllable speed envelope, right tunability.
If I can't convince my limited crew to run bikes, I'll probably be running buggies with them this year. No fun to be the only one on the track.
One other attraction for me to the bike would be that it should have no problem running outside on smooth concrete/macadam, would be fun to throw some cones out on a tennis court in the summertime.
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2011.12.28, 06:37 PM
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yeah, post xmas blues i guess i just know that as cool as it seems, and as much hype as it may get in a few threads here, doesn't mean it will sell well. and if it doesn't sell well, that doesn't bode well for it's longevity. i bought into lit and dnano out of my own self interest and to a lesser degree for kyosho, can't afford to keep jumping into the shallow pool with a yellow tinge
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2011.12.28, 06:54 PM
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Quote:
7000kv coreless brushless motor
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This is not the gyro.
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