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Old 2006.05.31, 04:42 PM   #46
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technically you should yeild to faster traffic however they should not have hit you either, especially in practice.
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Old 2006.05.31, 05:00 PM   #47
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technically you should yeild to faster traffic however they should not have hit you either, especially in practice.
I agree with arch2b, you should yield but also remember that if you are moving much slower during practice you may be a hazard on the track to the faster cars expecially on the straights. Beside the likely hood of him trying to put you in the wall is, well, not likely.

I've done it a couple of times because people sometimes forget that you are focused on a small car and sometimes your periferral can't see that other one at the end of the straight.

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Old 2006.06.01, 01:14 PM   #48
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yea, i see i did something wrong but i usually yeild to faster cars in races. but in practice, i sometimes do. still, by the time i saw him coming, i couldnt do anything
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Old 2006.06.01, 01:21 PM   #49
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......but in practice, i sometimes do. still, by the time i saw him coming, i couldnt do anything
Yeah that does happen and hopefully nothing is broken. At this scale the speeds are much faster and cars will crash much worse but won't get the same damage as a real car.

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Old 2006.06.01, 06:26 PM   #50
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a screw went loose. otherwise, i havent found anything wrong
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Old 2006.06.24, 10:29 PM   #51
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Basically, no bump-drafting, no PIT maneuvers, no whining and no pitside cheating. Makes sense to me, but I'd like to know why they dont have cautions when cars flip or an F1 sheds a wheel after an impact to protect everything
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becasue these races are not hundreds of laps or hours long. when your racing a 5-8 min heat there is no time for cautions.
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Old 2006.07.04, 06:47 AM   #53
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I'd like to know why they dont have cautions when cars flip or an F1 sheds a wheel after an impact to protect everything
my dad says something like that. what he says is that after a car sheds something or flips, the car should be taken out of the race like real races
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Old 2006.07.04, 08:27 AM   #54
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my dad says something like that. what he says is that after a car sheds something or flips, the car should be taken out of the race like real races
it's simply not a realistic notion in a 5-8 minute race. it works in real life because you have plenty of time but in less than 8 min mains that would make them last much longer than anyone wants or would have patience for. it's just not practical at this scale for these time periods where less than 3 secondes can mean the differnece between 1st and last place.

now, for those that run endurance races this could work as you have plenty of time to deal with.
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Old 2006.07.13, 12:58 PM   #55
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Bump to pass sounds good, If it's in your way smash it. Yellow flags are about as good of an idea as fat chicks on scooters. If the wheels fall off keep racing till the car stops movin. If you get in someones way while doing it, expect to get smashed. Just my .02 cents
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Old 2006.07.13, 04:43 PM   #56
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Bump to pass sounds good, If it's in your way smash it...
i'm glad you don't race on my track that kind of attitude would make you very unpopular at our club, as i expect it would at most others as well. these are expensive cars, and i would certainly not appreciate someone with that attitude carelessly bashing my car or my friends cars for that matter.
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Old 2006.07.13, 05:00 PM   #57
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I totally agree with arch, not to mention the title of this thread is etiquette

At our track, some people hack as a joke (but only people they know and are ok with) and some people make mistakes. The owner will crack jokes about and call people out for dirty racing, but all in good fun. In general, racers know to get out of the way of the faster drivers but its more of a courtesy not a "you're in my way" type of thing.
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Old 2006.07.13, 11:58 PM   #58
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Our race club in Ann Arbor won the HFAY mainly because of the insanly talented drivers we have..Be that as it may, if not for racer etiquette we wouldn't have won. Don't get me wrong, we have our share of accidents, but it's not because of lack of etiquette. I'm one of the lower rated guys on our team yet I was ranked 14th overall becuase I'll let whoever pass me to avoid getting into an accident. As long as I get my average laps, it's all good. If I raced my fellow drivers there will be an accident for sure and everyone involved loses laps. I can't stress enough how important racer etiquette is no matter where you race. You become a better racer and you and whoever you race with will get more enjoyment out of it. Bottom line, just respect the cars around you & you'll be respected no matter what your skill level...You don't want to be known as the "club hack."
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Old 2006.07.14, 01:21 PM   #59
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Our race club in Ann Arbor won the HFAY mainly because of the insanly talented drivers we have..Be that as it may, if not for racer etiquette we wouldn't have won. Don't get me wrong, we have our share of accidents, but it's not because of lack of etiquette. I'm one of the lower rated guys on our team yet I was ranked 14th overall becuase I'll let whoever pass me to avoid getting into an accident. As long as I get my average laps, it's all good. If I raced my fellow drivers there will be an accident for sure and everyone involved loses laps. I can't stress enough how important racer etiquette is no matter where you race. You become a better racer and you and whoever you race with will get more enjoyment out of it. Bottom line, just respect the cars around you & you'll be respected no matter what your skill level...You don't want to be known as the "club hack."
Don't sell yourself short though, it's great to race as a team effort, but once you get up to a certain level... if you're not pushing the leaders to drive better, they will only evolve their skills so far. I'll give wide berth to a guy 3 or 4 laps ahead of me (if it's a serious race) and I'm having issues with my car... but I have made up big lap deficits in the past to come out on top. If I would have been pulling out of the way each time they climbed up behind me... I wouldn't have had a chance.

There is a fine line here, and it's usually very easy to tell if someone is crossing it. If a guy is blatantly blocking or out to T-bone every guy that gets in his way... he deserves whatever he gets in return. (funny thing is... these types of drivers are usually the first to cry foul when you do it to them... you'd think they would know better ! )

When it's all said and done, some people get it, some get it in time, and some never do. It's not racing without a little rubbing... but when rubs turn into wrecks all the time... it's really ridiculous.

(now... say that last part with W's in place of all the R's and L's. )

PS... the team point system has been revised for this second season of HFAY... much fairer to all clubs.
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Old 2006.07.19, 04:35 AM   #60
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Don't sell yourself short though, it's great to race as a team effort, but once you get up to a certain level... if you're not pushing the leaders to drive better, they will only evolve their skills so far. I'll give wide berth to a guy 3 or 4 laps ahead of me (if it's a serious race) and I'm having issues with my car... but I have made up big lap deficits in the past to come out on top. If I would have been pulling out of the way each time they climbed up behind me... I wouldn't have had a chance.

There is a fine line here, and it's usually very easy to tell if someone is crossing it. If a guy is blatantly blocking or out to T-bone every guy that gets in his way... he deserves whatever he gets in return. (funny thing is... these types of drivers are usually the first to cry foul when you do it to them... you'd think they would know better ! )

When it's all said and done, some people get it, some get it in time, and some never do. It's not racing without a little rubbing... but when rubs turn into wrecks all the time... it's really ridiculous.

(now... say that last part with W's in place of all the R's and L's. )

PS... the team point system has been revised for this second season of HFAY... much fairer to all clubs.
Trust me, I don't have to push anyone on our team to drive better, we all do our best everytime. I know the fine line all too well and I'd quit before I cross it. Everyone on our team pretty much follows the same creed when it comes to racer etiquette. As far as letting someone pass goes.....When you race with a club you pretty much know where you stand after racing with the same group of guys for some time....There's the guys who you're on the same level with and there are the few who can get three laps on you halfway through a race weather you let them pass or not on a consistant basis. That's the guy you let pass so you don't hinder yourself or him. In this format of racing, I'm more concerned with the guy who's ranked one slot below me and the guy who's ranked one slot above me rather than who I'm on the track with. It's hard hard enough pulling fast laps when your out on the track by yourself let alone with other cars no matter what the skill level. That's why I take caution when someone is within three car lengths of me. I don't "lunchbox" it by any means, I feel I can hold my own against almost anyone, I don't just let anyone pass me (damn that!) But there are the select few that you just don't block especially in this form of racing. Besides I'm usually in the B mains anyway and the last thing I'm going to do is just give up the line to someone, it has to be earned but I'm not gonna block anyone during a race. Congrats on your standing in the 1st season by the way, you'd probably be one of the select few I would let pass. Good luck next season.

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