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Old 2004.10.28, 05:25 PM   #16
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Like how you slip in your prooduct there RCP... swift!
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Old 2004.10.28, 05:34 PM   #17
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Like how you slip in your prooduct there RCP... swift!
I can't post without it showing up, it's my forum name.

If this thread started out without mentioning RCP, than I would stay out of the conversation. But, I have to respond once somebody makes a claim about a feature of our track that is not true. I hope you understand.

Twenty-Se7en, you seem to share the same views on home store EVA foam tiles as I do.

If you notice the reply was to Calgary_Racers comments and not ZRC.

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Old 2004.10.28, 05:37 PM   #18
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As most should know, I like the decor as well since I've added trees, a building, a bridge, and soon a race light. Maybe some fake grass and a train down the road. I also worked on the boat pond last night.

However, for those same reasons I want to be sure that my Zs will stay on the track. To me it appears as though those barrier rails used on the Lakeshore may not be able to handle some very aggressive driving (or deadly driving). And although RCP Tracks didn't at first have blank tiles, the standard 50cm track also appears to have wider lanes. Let's face it, most of use probably wouldn't want to try and drive 6 Mini-Zs with optional motors on the Lakeshore track. I wouldn't want to do it on a Mini-Tile and I don't even like to drive an Xmod on a Mini-Tile because of the lousy turning.

Consequently, someone "might" enjoy the Lakeshore track as a "home" track especially if they are on a tight budget. However, as it is in the photos, it doesn't appear to be a very good "club" track and that is what this thread was originally geared toward.
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Old 2004.10.28, 05:46 PM   #19
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i have to admit the figure 8 layout looks tempting think of all the wrecks

rcp, just curious but have you thought about painting tiles in a similar manner? i doubt the hard core mini-z fan will be fond of it but the xmod crowd might as well as the drag strip fans.

another idea... how about stripe painting the inside portion of inside turn tiles similat to lemans/f1 tracks? this would also give a bonus of extra traction to those that are talented enough to hug the rails without hitting them.
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Old 2004.10.28, 05:53 PM   #20
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arch, go ahead and ask these questions in an RCP thread and I can give you some feedback. I don't want this thread to get off "track". If you know what I mean.
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Old 2004.10.28, 06:04 PM   #21
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I can't post without it showing up, it's my forum name.

If this thread started out without mentioning RCP, than I would stay out of the conversation. But, I have to respond once somebody makes a claim about a feature of our track that is not true. I hope you understand.

Twenty-Se7en, you seem to share the same views on home store EVA foam tiles as I do.

If you notice the reply was to Calgary_Racers comments and not ZRC.
yes, I do.
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Old 2004.10.28, 06:05 PM   #22
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arch, go ahead and ask these questions in an RCP thread and I can give you some feedback. I don't want this thread to get off "track". If you know what I mean.
sure will, thanks
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Old 2004.10.28, 09:30 PM   #23
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The Rcp surface we have has the best traction out of anything we’ve ever tried. The Lakeshore surface has dimples in it so don’t see how a mini-z could get hooked up on it. But the 2 ft. lane widths are Achilles heal of this system.

I’ve been building custom tracks for years (@ CP RACWAY) and every time I build or modify one I always and up making the lanes wider. I started with 3O inches and than 32 which is good for road courses but now I’m up to 4 feet for the Cup Cars that we run. Bottom line is the wider the lane the faster the cars can go.

It may be ok for ZipZaps or maybe the 1/43 scale Epoch racers but then again there are those dimples in the surface so maybe not.

They also have photos of mini-z’s on a pool table. I could not imagine trying to run a mini-z on a pool table, they are simply to fast.

Anyway that’s my two cents.
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Old 2004.10.28, 09:44 PM   #24
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The Rcp surface we have has the best traction out of anything we’ve ever tried. The Lakeshore surface has dimples in it so don’t see how a mini-z could get hooked up on it. But the 2 ft. lane widths are Achilles heal of this system.

I’ve been building custom tracks for years (@ CP RACWAY) and every time I build or modify one I always and up making the lanes wider. I started with 3O inches and than 32 which is good for road courses but now I’m up to 4 feet for the Cup Cars that we run. Bottom line is the wider the lane the faster the cars can go.

It may be ok for ZipZaps or maybe the 1/43 scale Epoch racers but then again there are those dimples in the surface so maybe not.

They also have photos of mini-z’s on a pool table. I could not imagine trying to run a mini-z on a pool table, they are simply to fast.

Anyway that’s my two cents.
Well...

I think 2ft is smal for a club track, but for a 'kitchen run' or something like that, you and 4-5 buddies it isn't too bad... there is such thing as too wide of a track though, can't make it too easy. I don't have the mini-tile but i'm told that the skill required to run on it is much higher than the 50cm and in my opinion that is better for the drivers.

A pool table would be pretty small, but again you have to think about something that size for a small apartment or something like that... I disagree that it should ever been marketed to clubs and such, but for a younger teen in a small room then it might be good.

Sounds like i'm promoting the track, but I don't think it will fly, i'm just trying to say that there is a market for a track that wide ... I don't know off hand how wide the mini-tile is but isn't it somewhere in that range?

And you are right about the pool sized table... that would be rough if you were running anything other than bone stock cars.... but fact is most of us hop-up the cars before we can handle a stock car
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Old 2004.10.28, 10:06 PM   #25
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Wow, it seems my simple little question ruffled a few feathers. For that I'm sorry. TNB, I don't know the history of this forum but I can say with all honesty that I'm just a curious newbie with a great interest as both a hobbyist and a commercial/club track operator. I currently own a Road Rails track system, an AMBrc lap system, a 16 ft drivers stand and and a PA system that supports the needs of the 1/10 scale club I founded. www.mrcracers.com.
My interest in track information stems from my interest in possibly starting another aspect of our club or possibly a commercial venture. I don't think I appreciate the insinuation that I may be trying to promote another product or degrade an existing product or that I may be operating as some sort of plant. As for your comments about my collection of cars.....yes, I currently own 2 Mini Z's; One stock MR01 and one stock MR02. I have clearly stated that I am a newbie to small scale cars. On the other hand, I have a collection of 30+ racing and collectible 1/10 scale cars and am an active participant at rctech.net with over 1000 posts and excellent feedback.
I would appreciate it if in the future you treat me, my questions and my comments with at least the level of respect I would afford you. I dearly hope this is not the way you or the greater number of people on this forum treat newcomers. If this forum is dedicated to certain manufacturers or conforms to only selected beliefs....please let me know and I'll find another forum that's more tolerant of my ignorance and willing to teach rather than belittle.
To those who have offered pleasant conversation and answers to my questions,Thank You and I apologise for the length of my comments.
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Old 2004.10.28, 10:16 PM   #26
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zrc,
members here tend to have very strong convictions it's nothign personal. i strive to keep this forum as open as possible regarding all manufacturer's etc. rcp even offered suggestions and options and he own's rcp tracks... that's very gracious of him i think.

there are several track systems that are marketed toward the commercial market...

try searching for porta track or the member lorne or lornecherry (sp?)

there is also this system you mentioned, and there is rcp tracks.

rcp was gracious enough to use the forum as a direct information source/support for his tracks as lorne has done as well (for info- he seemed to take a beating though ). it's not a matter of being dedicated to products but products being dedicated to the users which this forum offer's direct contact to MANY. i wish more manufacturer's were involved with the fans as much as rcp is

btw, nice site you have there. the M CHASSIS looks very cool. somethign about mini's is fascinating to me

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Old 2004.10.28, 10:19 PM   #27
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Zrc, don’t take it personal. TNB was referring to Calgary_Racer's comments and not yours. I also posted onCalgary_Racer’s comments and I don't think there is anything wrong with either one of our posts. That is what's great about this open forum. You can express your thoughts about your ideas and knowledge of this hobby industry and no one is forcing you to go one way or another. Just take in what you want and formulate your own conclusions by what is said.

Welcome to the forum and I would suggest sticking around this place, it is filled with some of the best information around.

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Old 2004.10.28, 10:27 PM   #28
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On a more constructive note. After reading the comments from you more experienced Z drivers, I clearly see why RCP tracks are more preferred. I also like that RCP maintains an active presence on this forum. That shows good support and that's very important to me.
Does anyone know if there are any plans to produce a magazine or e-zine for Mini Z's. I think this would be a real benefit and I'm surprised it hasn't come about. I wonder if Kyosho has concidered it??
Arch, thanks for the comment about our website. Still working on it as the club is only 4 months old but we're getting there !!

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Old 2004.10.28, 10:30 PM   #29
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My guess is your magazine question will be answered in 2005. There is already a magazine and website overseas. www.mini-z.jp. It has a lot of great information and pictures, if you speak the language. I think you just may see something similar here in the states very soon.

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Old 2004.10.28, 10:32 PM   #30
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Zrc,

From my stand point, I just couldn't see how anyone would try to use that track as a "club" track since:

The lanes appear too small,
It appears that you cannot widen the lanes,
The rails don't look strong enough to keep a Z on the track.

To me those "flaws" in my opinion would be very easy to spot especially considering how ROAR mandates some of its tracks and considering, how fast Mini-Zs can run. After all, Kyosho makes some of the best RC products in the world. Then again, that is my opinon.

And your original comment about how the Lakeshore tracks are selling quite well on ebay was very misleading to me since only three tracks were sold when I checked ebay. Consequently, it is statements like those that remind me of people who join forums and message boards to sell a product whether it be a track, real estate, or whatever.

If you are not one of them and are new to Zs, this forum can be a very good source of information. This forum is also sort of like a family, and like most families squabbles take place and most are forgiven or tolerate each other and make up later.

And yes, there is a magazine targeted at mini-owners.
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