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Old 2005.08.31, 11:52 AM   #1
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Do foam tires need to be mounted on the rims?

I'm racing for the first time this weekend on a low cut pile carpet track and have purchased some nice Squat foam tires.
My quesiton is do these tires need to be super glued or something to my plastic rims? should I get some special 'tire glue' or is regular super glue fine? what should I do? thanks
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Old 2005.08.31, 04:30 PM   #2
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As an ex carpet racer myself... I'd just go with treaded GPM 8 degree all the way around. I tried foam many moons ago... never seemed to work out. Some tire tape works fine for foamies.
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Old 2005.08.31, 05:00 PM   #3
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we've used double sided tape and model glue for foamies.

haven't raced them on carpet though.
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Old 2005.08.31, 05:45 PM   #4
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For carpet, try Atomic 10 degree ribs.

Foams need mounting tape and very careful application of traction compound to function properly.
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Old 2005.08.31, 06:18 PM   #5
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I'm racing/practicing at Rialto where I think they have a carpet track.
they might have an RCP track tho, not sure.
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Old 2005.08.31, 07:00 PM   #6
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They do have an RCP track at Rialto.
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Old 2005.08.31, 07:44 PM   #7
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sweet... you recommend foam or rubber tires for that surface? (maybe see some of you guys there friday or saturday night if all my parts come in. definitly next weekend though.)
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Old 2005.09.01, 12:23 AM   #8
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mount foam tires with double sided tape... you can re-use the rims when they wear down... i'm not sure that you can do the same with super glue though...

but i've got an idea that i haven't tried out yet... how about glue them on with water soluable elmer's glue... i know that they can come off if you soak them in water...

good luck in the upcoming race...

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Old 2005.09.01, 12:45 AM   #9
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right on, thanks.

I know the guys at Z-Speed dot com have a "wheel glue" and "wheel glue remover" product. I'll bet that stuff works pretty good too.
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I've been meaning to try the Z-speed glue. We've gone back to rubber just to make things fair. Foam is a royal pain in the ass. Use Paragon Ground FX dabbed onto a paper towel to apply. That way you don't get to much sauce on the tire and degrade the adhesive. Let it sit for a few minutes and wipe off gently with a CLEAN paper towel.

For 5 minute races, foams are incomparable. The only problem is that the traction compound starts wearing off at the 8 minute mark, and it becomes a real test of throttle control.
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Old 2005.09.01, 11:49 AM   #11
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so whats the verdict on RCP tracks?

Foam

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Rubber?
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I've run foam with my F1 on my RCP, and it tracks better then any rubber tires I've run.

So good infact, that I don't race with foams because the advantage puts the car in a different class then the other guys I race with (who aren't using foams).

With foams you really have to stay off the rails though- they'll tear up your sidewalls.

I haven't run foams on a racer chassis (MR02, etc), because soft rubber compounds track just fine on RCP with the racer.
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Old 2005.09.01, 03:56 PM   #13
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interesting.. I figured I should order the wide Squat foams from the Mini-Z store dot com before they close their doors for good so thats why I got them.

when I get to the track this weekend (although its looking like next because my Atomic motor hasn't arrived yet) if they have some rubber tires in stock i'll give those a try too.

and what do you guys do about batteries when you race? I imagine you probably go through a lot in one night of racing... do you bring tons of extras? I might need to bring extras for my receiver too incase that runs outta juice....
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interesting.. I figured I should order the wide Squat foams from the Mini-Z store dot com before they close their doors for good so thats why I got them.

when I get to the track this weekend (although its looking like next because my Atomic motor hasn't arrived yet) if they have some rubber tires in stock i'll give those a try too.

and what do you guys do about batteries when you race? I imagine you probably go through a lot in one night of racing... do you bring tons of extras? I might need to bring extras for my receiver too incase that runs outta juice....
what's mini z store? do you mean mini z racer. com?

regarding batteries- yeah, I have 9 sets of AAA and 3 sets of AA..although I don't use them all each night, but better safe then sorry.
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Old 2005.09.01, 06:15 PM   #15
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I was talking about triple W dot miniz store dot com.

check them out, they used to be a pretty good source for Square parts but are sold out of basically everything now and are closing down last I heard.
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