2005.07.27, 11:44 PM
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BooYa!!
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Location: Glendale Arizona
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Any Phoenix Zers up for racin this week-end?
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2005.07.28, 11:12 PM
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#32
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Location: Glendale, Az.
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Totally up for racing.
DM.
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2005.07.29, 04:35 AM
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Here kitty, kitty, kitty
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Sure. Saturday evening? If we can’t get the club house yet we could use my driveway again. There are no thunderstorms forecast for Saturday.
Since the heat is slightly reduced maybe we could shoot for 6pm. Give us some more daylight to work with.
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2005.07.29, 07:35 PM
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I might have dinner plans for saturday early evening-but i will let yall know...would hate to miss out-HATE to miss out
dm.
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2005.07.30, 03:51 AM
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BooYa!!
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Glendale Arizona
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The only problem i have with Saturday is that i'm on call starting at 6 pm. So it could be a short night for me, but i could take the chance. Sunday is all open as far as i know for myself.
I've been pretty busy dealing with plumbers and satalite installers the last couple of days that i spaced talking to the HOA about renting the clubhouse this week-end. I can definately set something up for the next GTG though.
The Walmart over by me has those foam mats in stock, about 10 packs (60 pcs) or about $200.
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2005.07.30, 04:26 AM
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Here kitty, kitty, kitty
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Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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No problem. We’ll meet Sunday at 6:00pm instead then. Saturday was going to be pretty busy for me too. I’ll have more prep time now.
The thunderstorm forecasts keep changing, but we’ve hardly gotten anything out here since the track got blown over.
I did some shopping around and have an idea of how to build the walls:
-Core holes in the mats for 2ft/4ft arcs and straights, such that the holes can be plugged again for a smooth surface.
-Dowel post with Velcro sides are put into the appropriate arc holes.
-The wall strip, also with Velcro on one side is then stuck to the posts, overlapping with the next wall over.
Ace Hardware has smooth flexible plastic strips for garden edging that I believe will work well for this. The walls will have considerable give in a collision. They'll be easier to conform to elevation changes than a rigid wall, and they'll store flat.
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2005.07.30, 02:01 PM
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I am in for sunday too!
DM.
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2005.07.30, 02:21 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: West Jordan, Utah
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just a thought, if your planning on spending $200 for the foam mats, I would just go with the Wide "L" rcp track. it's only 199.00 from the MZR shop. and you can always add to it later. It was one of the best investments I made in our Mini-z racing.
I started with the foam mats also. I wish I would have just bought the RCP to start. I could have even had a bigger track. LOL
it sounds like you guys have the starts of a great club. We currenly have about 10 racers that will be comming to each of our races, and we will hopefully be getting a few more.
good luck
Brian
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2005.07.30, 03:16 PM
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BooYa!!
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Ya, Sunday at 6pm is good for me as well.
And i do have a wide L, but i have yet to be able to try it out. I got it at my LHS for $175 un-used as they were gonna do some 'racing' with it at the 'sports bar' next door, but that fell through. I can't wait to try out the surface, however, it will be very boring to do an L shape layout. If i can't talk my wife into letting me get atleast 1 more then i will probably sell it and get a mini-96. I'm a road-course guy, i like lots of turns and technicle stuff in my tracks. It takes 3 wide Ls to get the same possible layouts as the mini-96. It might be narrower, but at a 3rd the price i can still have fun. Or if i wanted to spend $600 i could just get 2 mini-96s and 2 expansion packs for a hella lot of track possibilities. But if i can get 1 or 2 more wide Ls then that would be cool, except where to set it up.
Last edited by saiyan; 2005.07.30 at 03:22 PM.
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2005.07.30, 05:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saiyan
And i do have a wide L, but i have yet to be able to try it out. I can't wait to try out the surface, however, it will be very boring to do an L shape layout. If i can't talk my wife into letting me get atleast 1 more then i will probably sell it and get a mini-96. I'm a road-course guy, i like lots of turns and technicle stuff in my tracks. It takes 3 wide Ls to get the same possible layouts as the mini-96. It might be narrower, but at a 3rd the price i can still have fun. Or if i wanted to spend $600 i could just get 2 mini-96s and 2 expansion packs for a hella lot of track possibilities. But if i can get 1 or 2 more wide Ls then that would be cool, except where to set it up.
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I guess it all depends on what your plan is, Do you plan to race more that just 2 or 3 cars at a time? if so I would go with the wide L, we have races with as many as 7 at a time and even with the 34in. wide lanes it can still be tricky to pass. if you plan on staying with just 2 or 3 racer and are limited by space, maybe the mini 96 is the way to go. Either way I'm sure you will love to RCP Track. If you do decide to sell it, I'm sure you won't have a problem. I might even be interested.
there are some pics of some of our track setups along with some videos at my website www.saltlakemini-z.com.
here are some of the possible layouts with both 2 and 3 wide L tracks
Brian
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2005.07.30, 06:05 PM
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Location: Glendale, Az.
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Hi briankstan,
Thanks for the good info. Nice to hear it from another club thats grown to a healthy size! We are 3 (solid) maybe 4 if were lucky, although I can see us getting 10 eventually as Phoenix is a huge city and I cannot imagine that we cant dig up a few more RC fans that would love mini-z's. With all the xmoder's out there converting is only a matter of availability and time Sure would be nice if mini-z's or even iwaviers were distributed through a huge company (like radio shack does)-would play to the impulse buy even at the higher price.
I think as a club we are on the cusp of getting tracks worked out and Dusty is talented enough to produce something special and homegrown as well. I have been thinking a 96 as tight n technical appeals to me too, but we should probably pool our resources so we have our own at home tracks that can be combined to produce something to support at least 3 - 5 (we could run 2 heats and support 6-10 drivers).
Man your track pictures on your site look great-totally fun! We have a new club site that we will add to as we grow:
www.mini-az.com
Thanks again for the input!
dm.
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2005.07.31, 03:38 AM
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Here kitty, kitty, kitty
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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I didn’t know you went ahead and got the Wide L. Bring it on over Sunday. It’s a simple layout but we should give it a try.
The more I work out the wall situation the more I think I should have just gotten a Mini-96. My main problem with RCP was the limit of one turn type, but it occurred to me I could use blank tiles to make a wide area and the Losi Dots to mark out wider arc turns, chicanes, etc. The gap to the wall would be runoff space like a real course. We’d still have to line the walls with a non-stick something.
Thanks Brian, I’ve been referencing your site a good bit. Very nice setup you all have there. Space and versatility are factors for me, and the Mini-96 seems to fit those bills. From various videos I’ve seen the cars bounce off the walls weather it’s a Wide or a Mini, so I figure we may as well go narrow anyhow. It’ll make us very precise drivers, in theory.
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2005.07.31, 05:39 AM
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Here kitty, kitty, kitty
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If we went RCP, we’d have to do something like this (attached). The green lines are just a guide, though if a good wall solution were found they could be attached to the RCP walls instead of using dots.
This example has two radii turns, an increasing-radius turn, and a chicane. Use blank areas and block them off with corner dots to form the corners. The 45deg straight could use plastic strip type walls attached at those pesky, protruding, car snagging corners. Then it would be a true straight and not a mine field.
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2005.07.31, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusty Weasle
The 45deg straight could use plastic strip type walls attached at those pesky, protruding, car snagging corners. Then it would be a true straight and not a mine field.
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I was a little worried the firest time we tried the 45 degree, we put it at the end of the straight and it was and issue for some of the drivers and not for others. you have some great ideas I may borrow.
brian
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2005.08.01, 12:38 AM
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#45
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BooYa!!
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Glendale Arizona
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Well another good night of racing and of course i forgot my d!@# camera again. I need to just store it with my RC rather then with the video cam. Dustyweasel got some good stills and a vid though, so we should have a link for them soon. We had 4 racers, though because of frequency issues only 3 could race at any one time. I raced my r34 police car for the first time, unfortunately i busted a solder joint for the police lights so no 'hot persuit' chases.
The wide L RCP track was definately nice, but we're still undescided about wether to go that route or each of us getting a mini-96 and expansion pack so that we can each have a track at home to play on since we've only been getting together every other week.
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